BFG Imperials, Scratchbuilt Orks and 17th Flexeberg IG!

[Jihad_Ragsta]

S'all looking good as usual, Jihad

I want more ships with Bionicle parts! They remind me of when I was a wee lad
The only thing I would suggest if you use a Bionicle head again to make it into an orky face, ie lots of teef and a big bolt on eyebrow

Ah yes, sad memories of childhood! When GW stuff could be bought for a shiny fiver! Haha! And you're right about Orkifying the head, I had intended to but I like the paintjob so much I can't bring myself to change the layout now. If I feel the urge for more Bionicle madness I will def do this tho

Your right, the tracks aren't really noticable any more, it fits with the look quite well. The engine looks excellent, really looks like it could fling it through space and I dont think the cannons look half as bad as they did.

Not for me to be a pain in the rear - that big gold section on the font.... I'd whack another panel on so it matches the Daring.

As for the ork cruiser, I'd make the rest of the body look more patch work of colors but other then that, s'all good

Thanks for the support, Gomez, glad you like those bits. The prow... Yes I see what you mean, it was actually different on purpose so it didn't match too much I don't think I have the heart to carve her up and redo it- maybe I'll have a hard think and do it anyway.

Speaking of floaty space ships and such, have you seen any of the firestorm armada stuff? Theres some distinctly adeptus mechanicus looking vessels being released...

Y'know, I actually noticed these yesterday! Hmmm... Darn you, now I want them!

I was pondering a new Imperial fleet and this looks like a nice option. You could say the design philosophy in that part of the Imperium is radically different to other known types eh?

I'm actually having a clearout of stuff at the moment pending a potential new project in the new year, let's see if I can free up space for those ships too!

[OutOfContext]

Potential new project eh?
Do tell us!

Hurrah for being sigged again!

[GomezAddams]

See I had my eyes on...



Perhaps we could enslave.. i mean, persuade some people to do the other fleets and have some kind of uber joint log?

[Jihad_Ragsta]

Gomez- Hm, now that sounds like a very interesting idea! I would be up for that but priority one is to clear out some old stuff first! Have a look at my sales thread and help me out

Potential new project eh?
Do tell us!

Hurrah for being sigged again!

It was worthy of being sigged! Man, I hate that franchise! Ptooiee

Okay okay, these are the bare bones of my idea just now- I really want to sit down and create a force of Marines for getting back into the gaming side of the hobby. Everything currently has just been nice and casual with no real plan.

Observe:



Some of you will have seen these chaps previously but they will help for the imagery- I want my Marines in red power armour and backpacks with metal guns (exercise some imagination here people!).



Also, I am thinking about using different sources for powerplants, helmets and bolters- some will probably dislike them but so what? Maybe I'll keep them swappable with standard stuff! Oh yes, and this stuff looks interesting too...

Yes, I know it looks like a Bloodangel but there are lots of red marine chapters out there who aren't Bloodangels too! Chapter emblem would be a nice skull (as I know GW sell those PLUS I have some relevant names rolling round in my head just now). Currently War Skull or Inferno Skull Chapter is sounding interesting.

Fluffwise, they recruit from feral and feudal worlds so lots of scope for barbaric names and skull based rituals. Probably some skullfaced assault marines too...

Basing would probably remain much the same except with static grass and chunkier rocks added in.

Paintwise, I would probably basecoat Baal Red for speed and highlight with Blood Angel red after a good old Devlan Mud wash for shading. That's what I did previously on the above marines except with Crimson Gore (gaaack, coat after coat after coat!). I would weather up the boots and calves and hopefully add some blackened gun muzzles and metallic scratches on the armour. Oh yes, and African skin tones for the bare flesh.

Thoughts, guys? This idea would probably be an entirely new thread as I would want to devote all attention to it but I value your input here first!

Comments and insults welcome! I mean criticisms!

[OutOfContext]

More SM is never a bad thing

I'm not sure about the guns, nor the backpacks, but then again I love the normal SM look, so...
I think I'll see what other plans you have for them first, Jihad.

PS: Twilights ruins my Biology lessons

[Logarithm Udgaur]

More SM is always a bad thing

Fixed that for you.

I actually like that you want to do something different with them though.

[Mr Kibbles]

I like those marines Jihad

[OutOfContext]

Fixed that for you.

I actually like that you want to do something different with them though.

I'm trying so hard to not do my Nick 'I never said that, it was a misquotation' Griffin impression...

But I agree, I would like something different along the SM side, Jihad. Aren't your brass coloured ones good enough for gaming?

[Dragon Lord]

Ooh, lots to comment on.
I quite like the Hand of Erebus, looking at the unpainted version I wasn't too sure about the weapons batteries either but they do look much better painted. The engine block is very different and interesting, the highlighting on the tubes really brings it out nicely. On the prow perhaps a line of another colour like silver or red would help break up the large mass of gold?
The basing does look a little flimsy in the sense that it looks like it might break easily, appearance wise it looks good though.

The Ork battlecruiser is looking good, though I can't help thinking that the big cannon on the front should be coming out of the mouth-like hole in the bionicle head.

The new firestorm armada stuff does look quite nice, I had been looking at the two fleets that yourself and GomezAddams posted with some interest myself.

For the marines I'm not sure about the different powerplants or guns but those heads look interesting and I've seen some very good things done with those armorcast muzzle flashes. As OutOfContext said though are the Brazen Minotaurs not good enough or did you just feel like something different?

[Jihad_Ragsta]

I actually like that you want to do something different with them though.

Noted, sir- it's important to me that you are interested on my making them different- I will put alot of thought into where to take it.

I like those marines Jihad

Thanks, Mr Kibbles- bear in mind that this is only a very rough idea of what they will look like. I have actually been doodling some ideas for the scheme using red and black pens. Hopefully you will like where they end up...

I'm trying so hard to not do my Nick 'I never said that, it was a misquotation' Griffin impression...

But I agree, I would like something different along the SM side, Jihad. Aren't your brass coloured ones good enough for gaming?

The Brazen Minotaurs were a fun experiment in metallics and freehanding, mate, I enjoyed doing them but really am lusting after a brand new start. With brand new models that weren't eBay rescues I am currently sourcing different gun options and thinking about where to take the powerplant idea... In the dark corners of my mind something stirs!

On the prow perhaps a line of another colour like silver or red would help break up the large mass of gold?
The basing does look a little flimsy in the sense that it looks like it might break easily, appearance wise it looks good though.

Thanks buddy! I will definitely trim the prow in red and post the pics here, a very good idea!

The Ork battlecruiser is looking good, though I can't help thinking that the big cannon on the front should be coming out of the mouth-like hole in the bionicle head.

Hmm, good point there but I haven't the heart to hack at him just now. We will paint him some more and see what happens first. Except now you have me wanting to scratch build YOUR idea of how it should look

The new firestorm armada stuff does look quite nice, I had been looking at the two fleets that yourself and GomezAddams posted with some interest myself.

Really... Perhaps the three of us might be onto something here...

Guys, thanks for the input on my Chapter idea- I have some models ready to accept experimental paintschemes for the Chapter and will post them ASAP. Once you chaps have seen and commented on them I will know what to do and launch the project.

As a reward for your service, I found these!

Meet Bill n Ben! Bill only ever saw one game of Epic- he was destroyed in a single salvo from a Warlord Titan. Actually, these (and the Warlord) are the only Epic things I have left now! Hope you like them!



Hmmm... Just how difficult would it be to scratchbuild such Gargants...?

[GomezAddams]

Sorry for the late reply about the marines bud. I'll be interested to see how it turns out, especially with regards to the guns as pig irons stuff is in scale with cadians, so the guns should work although might look a little on the slim side.
The back packs however, might be too small. Hasslefree do true 28mm so you might find them a little small, but I reckon with a fair bit of kit on them (pouches etc) you might be able to blag it - having said that, I've never seen them used before so... who knows
Paint scheme looks fine to me. It seems like a well thought out start to an army and I'm looking forward to it

The Ork battlecruiser is looking good, though I can't help thinking that the big cannon on the front should be coming out of the mouth-like hole in the bionicle head.

Seconded!

Really... Perhaps the three of us might be onto something here...

And so it grows I was thinking of maybe starting a thread in the support forum to see who else is interested.

[Jihad_Ragsta]

Hello peoples

Well, I had a glorious Monday off today and it's ending well- watching episodes of Bottom and just tinkering away at random stuff in my bitz box.

I have also developed the paint scheme for my War Skulls- have a look and let me know what you think- notice the 'dags' on the shoulder pads representing tribal leanings within the Chapter. I plan to muddy up the bottom of the boots to help weather this guy and break up the black armour. I rushed the paint job through but it still seems to have turned out pretty nicely- looks fine from 2 feet away anyway which is all we need...

Comments, suggestions and criticisms appreciated on this- the Chapter symbol will be a steel skull (funny that) but I haven't painted it in yet

[OutOfContext]

I feel like a long, positive post due to my good mood at discovering I'm getting a local GW, so...

Looks much cooler than the original, Jihad. Always liked red/black colour schemes.
As for the dags, maybe go for some yellow to contrast a bit? I'd play about with that though, as I'm not too sure.
More pictures ASAP, my good man!

[stompy]

Definitely prefer the new colour scheme for your marines. I like the old one, but halved/quartered marines suit 'knightly' chapters IMO- the new one looks more feral, especially with the dags. One thing I might suggest is to perhaps paint the shoulder pad rims a different colour, maybe white? He looks like a tiny splash of a 3rd colour would really set him off. I really like the subtle extra details you've added to the other marines, like the grenades on the shoulder pad- combined with the unusual equipment you're going to give them, it could give them a really nice 'campaigning' look. I'll definitely be keeping track

Also, Bottom is one of the funniest programmes ever made! Certainly good for keeping up morale while painting.

[Jihad_Ragsta]

OOC- A new store in the neighbourhood eh? Nice one, at least someone is expanding in these dire times! Y'know, I was looking at their careers section last weekend... They almost sucked me in- fulltime permanent job AND my favourite hobby in the same place! Then I remembered there were little Grots swarming everywhere

Stompy- Hey man! Nice to see you here, and many thanks for picking up on the feral vibes! Exactly what I was hoping to achieve, it was risky seeing if dags could work on more than Orkseses. Ses. And I think additional gear and pouches is an excellent theme to continue with! Oh dear, where's my scribe got to...

I have used yellow as an additional colour for squad number and type, I like the effect (and have also posted a diofferent angle so that you guys can see what shoulder dags in yellow would look like). White is an interesting idea BUT I doubt I could pull it off PLUS I rather like the metal chipping effect that's going on with the rims...

I have also based the test piece with what I would like for the force as a whole- first time I've used static grass in YEARS and I was actually alarmed at how aggressive it was in sticking to the PVA! Seems to have worked out quite nicely tho.

QUESTION: How do you guys 'mud up' your bases? Mine was Scorched Brown with a drybrush of Bleached Bone- hasn't come out too well in the pics BUT it has weathered up the boots quite nicely. Any other suggestions will be taken on board!

Being a report from Investigator Goran to Inquisitor Thorne. Priority Blue, received via Astropathic duct AE10071594/BD23.

My Lord Inquisitor

I have been investigating reports of unknown forces operating within the *censored* sub sector for the last four weeks. My current evaluation is as follows: 1) The subjects are Space Marines of a currently unknown Chapter. Cross references of reported insignia and colouration have come up with more than 20 possibles, several of which are renegade units. 2) These Marines are operating with a surprising amount of stealth for supposed warriors of the Imperium, and the Adeptus Astartes in particular. 3) It is difficult to find such sites given the extremely mobile nature of our subjects. There is definite evidence of head taking- not decapitation via noble close combat but post mortem and with some element of dexterity.

Sir, I cannot yet say whether we are dealing with loyal units of His Glorious Imperial Majesty or rather the insidious filth of Chaos. I am confident that I will have more evidence within the allotted time frame- I am pursuing several avenues of investigation even now.

Your obedient servant

Goran

[GomezAddams]

It depends what you mean by mud.. do you mean as in, ww1 slopping squishy mud or out in the garden after a wet day.

I use a mix of mig pigment, resin, plaster and gloss varnish. You could probably get away with just using plaster but its a little trickier... if you give me a better idea I'll have a play around and see what I can come up with.

As for the marine, he looks excellent. Its going to be interesting to see how the conversions work with the paint scheme

[Tommygun]

A lot of really nice stuff Jihad_Ragsta.
I especially like the custom BFG ships.

[Animatronica]

Hail Captain Ragsta!
i Like the Head-Taking Chapter's Colour scheme. Strikes me as almost being a direct opposite to Iron Lords! a possible coincidence?! either way i look forward to seeing what route it takes...
and thanks to you i nearly bought a set of the Mutant chronicles Boxed Set on Ebay. i managed to stop myself at the last minute!....

[Jihad_Ragsta]

*Blows off the dust from his log. Waves arms frantically as moths and Snotlings flee in all directions*

Gomez- A good Sunday evening to thee, sir! Thank you for your info and feedback on the Marine colourscheme. I have some info to follow, which you probably will not like...

Tommygun- Hello! Thanks for dropping by! Glad you like the ships, that's always good coming from a fellow scratchbuilder!

Animatronica- Always a pleasure! Haha yeah, I fear red and black is just too good a combo to use! Glad you like it, that's good to know for future reference.

It's been a while and progress has been... Poor. All this Christmas nonsense has crippled my funds and my enthusiasm for painting little men recently! HOWEVER I have recently cleared out some old stuff like I said I would.

My order for guns, helmets and backpacks came in from Pig Iron within 3 days of me requesting it- great service and nice pieces! Sadly, the guns do not scale up for Marines as feared. They will, however, make excellent counts as for Guardsmen!

I was chatting to one of the staff at my local GW and he insisted I get into layering. Have a look and tell me what you think of the effort- I was pleasantly surprised at how well it seems to have turned out.

ALSO... I got bored and decided to scratchbuild a Gargant using old tank bodies and other junk in an effort to purge my bitz box. I am planning to have it wheeling round on one leg (not as nimble as I make it sound, I promise). QUESTION- which of the two drums in the picture should I use for an ammo feed???

And FINALLY- my superglue has rebelled against the Emperor's Light and refuses to work. As such I chopped the nozzle off with metal shears (stuff you, super glue traitor filth) and decided to use as much as possible within a minimal period of time. In the final pic you can see all my Stargrunt infantry mounted on 2ps- power armour grunts are WIP but my back couldn't take any more model work today! I now have white spray so will paint these guys up soon with some new camo ideas for variety and my own sanity.

Comments on the Space Marine paintjob would be gratefully received. Suggestions etc for the Gargant would be very welcome! Insults and random gibberish gladly entertained!

[Mr Kibbles]

Nice work man