Games Workshop Pricing Feedback Thread

[ihavetoomuchminis]

And of course they have to add a new price level for these new models: 56 euro for the big stuff compared to 52 for a land raider. Guess that's going to be about 125AUD and 44 pounds.

This is one of the things that's getting me sick. They are raising prices with every new release. They set a new standard every single month. 1 or 2 pounds more, but it is getting ridiculous. They started when they released the Stormraven at 52 euro. Then all the land-raiders, valkyries and 50€ products were risen to 52. Now the VC Monstruous infantry box is 37 instead of 35, and i'm sure that all the new MI boxes will be 37 euros. And then, the old MI boxes too. In EVERY SINGLE NEW RELEASE there's a subtle price increase. It is getting ridiculous. Now the new standard for the biggest kits will be 56 euros, wich is a rise of 4 euros. Simply and plain stupid.

[EmperorNorton]

just got the prices for the new lotr sbg books they are actually really well priced, £12 for each book which consists of multiple lists and factions as well as new senarios (5ish in each) and rules add ons so all in all great buys me thinks.

Well, most of them have a mere 48 pages, which IMO makes calling them a book fairly generous. Booklet would be more fitting.
Still not a horrible price, though.

[rodmillard]

Half the pagecount of the VC army book, in softback not hardcover, for only just under half the price. It's only a "good" price by GW standards. And the sad thing is that I will eventually buy all of them.

Show me any other company that could get away with selling a 48 page "book" at that price point. Then again, show me any other company that could get away with charging £4.50 for their monthly sales catalogue...

[therisnosaurus]

Simply and plain stupid.

do note that this is finecast, their metal equivalent, not hard plastic like the kits you mentioned. Those models in metal would have cost a fair whop to produce.

They don't because they're resin of course. This is actually going to be quite an interesting test to see how well FC standards stand up to huge models- will there always be a dud component you just have to deal with?

[Wintermute]

. Those models in metal would have cost a fair whop to produce.

You are very wrong. GW have stated Finecast models cost more to manufacture than metal ones.

[Max Jet]

You are very wrong. GW have stated Finecast models cost more to manufacture than metal ones.

Though I am still wondering why they didn't directly state "Manufacturing costs are higher" But "The process is difficult, therefore we charge more."

[Lord Dan]

Though I am still wondering why they didn't directly state "Manufacturing costs are higher" But "The process is difficult, therefore we charge more."

Which is ironic, considering most people I've spoken to would be willing to pay less for that "inferior" metal we've had for the last two decades...

[Scaryscarymushroom]

Which is ironic, considering most people I've spoken to would be willing to pay less for that "inferior" metal we've had for the last two decades...

GW's product line might help to explain that: They stop selling model X in metal, only to sell in finecast, and the result is that model X in metal becomes less valuable because it can't be bought, except under specific circumstances and the rare stockist. Where, with finecast, there may be an element of shiny-new-toy syndrome kicking in.

[manickze]

I heard the undercoat sprays are gong up from $25NZ to $34NZ here. It's gone beyond ridiculous.

[loveless]

GW Undercoat sprays are already 3x the cost of the same bloody thing from companies like Krylon. Everytime someone buys a can of GW spray I have to question their sanity.

[Hellebore]

I heard the undercoat sprays are gong up from $25NZ to $34NZ here. It's gone beyond ridiculous.

You have supercheap auto in NZ. Go buy this: http://www.supercheapauto.co.nz/onli...28#Description

I've been undercoating models in their matt black and white for the last decade. Cheap as chips, covers just as well and the last time I got them they had an adjustable nozzle that allowed you to spray in a horizontal manner or vertically.

Hellebore

[ihavetoomuchminis]

You are very wrong. GW have stated Finecast models cost more to manufacture than metal ones.

And i imagine nobody was waiting them to state another thing.

[jack da greenskin]

just got the prices for the new lotr sbg books they are actually really well priced, £12 for each book which consists of multiple lists and factions as well as new senarios (5ish in each) and rules add ons so all in all great buys me thinks.

My problem is that those books used to be £7 or £8, which to me, makes me think theyre still expensive.

[Lord Dan]

GW's product line might help to explain that: They stop selling model X in metal, only to sell in finecast, and the result is that model X in metal becomes less valuable because it can't be bought, except under specific circumstances and the rare stockist. Where, with finecast, there may be an element of shiny-new-toy syndrome kicking in.

You have a point, I just feel it was a nasty move that ultimately hurt us.

"This product is SO much better!"
"How is it better?"
"The detail is crisper!"
"...yeah I don't see that. If anything that detail is offset by problems like miscasts and bent appendages. We'll call it even."
"Sure, sure, but consider how much cheaper the material is!"
"Oh, awesome. How much cheaper are the models?"
"...er, well, it's actually more expensive to produce the models now, even though the material is cheaper. They're going to cost 15-20% more."
"...I'm not sure I understand. Why are you doing this if the only net result is you get to charge us more money?"
"..."
"..."
"...just look at the detail!"

What they've done is used an at best equally-efficient, cheaper material, and then charged the consumer more money because their production costs went up. I don't think so, guys.

[Rosstifer]

Edit - Nevermind.

Whilst I'm here, has anyone else's LGS or GW store had a big sale on Metal Blisters to get rid of them so they can bring in Finecast? I got Skulltaker, Mounted Chaos Lord, a box of Flamers, the Changeling and a Khorne Exalted Hero for 50% off. No miscasts on any of them either!

[JLBeady]

You are very wrong. GW have stated Finecast models cost more to manufacture than metal ones.

Sorry, I don't buy it. I don't know too many companies that are serious about making a profit that switch from a less expensive and stable manufacturing process to a more expensive process that appears to produce inferior product. Combine that with GW's seeming insistence on increasing profits through price increases and decreasing expenses (especially to make up for decreasing patronage) and you will have to excuse me if I don't take GW's claims that Finecast costs more to produce at face value. Probably more accurate is that Finecast is costing significant sums upfront but GW is betting on a great ROI that will improve their long posistion on margins to the point that say over the next 5 to 10 years they start getting much higher returns on Finecast than Metal.

[strewart]

Maybe the resin process only ends up more expensive because there are so many miscasts they have to use so much resin before they get a decent kit? Either way you spin it.. Switching from one material to a more expensive and difficult to use one that provides no real advantage is just a stupid business decision, and to pass the extra costs onto the customers is nothing more than an insult.

[Shimmergloom]

Maybe the resin process only ends up more expensive because there are so many miscasts they have to use so much resin before they get a decent kit? Either way you spin it.. Switching from one material to a more expensive and difficult to use one that provides no real advantage is just a stupid business decision, and to pass the extra costs onto the customers is nothing more than an insult.

Nail hit on head. If they didn't miscast so much, it would be far cheaper for them. Not for us, they'd still raise prices though, they'd just find another excuse. Like the price of resin is skyrocketing!

[Torga_DW]

Maybe the resin process only ends up more expensive because there are so many miscasts they have to use so much resin before they get a decent kit? Either way you spin it.. Switching from one material to a more expensive and difficult to use one that provides no real advantage is just a stupid business decision, and to pass the extra costs onto the customers is nothing more than an insult.

Except we know that they still send out totally miscast product. So the price rises shouldn't have happened immediately, until the returns started. Unless they were expecting returns, given that they knew they were attempting to sell so much defective product.

[strewart]

Except we know that they still send out totally miscast product. So the price rises shouldn't have happened immediately, until the returns started. Unless they were expecting returns, given that they knew they were attempting to sell so much defective product.

Another way to look at it. Look at some of the product they have deemed 'acceptable for sale'. Imagine the kind of abortions they might have churned out and deemed 'unacceptable for sale' and thus just destroyed. Assuming there is at least one level of QC of course...