Games Workshop Pricing Feedback Thread

[Importman]

Books in the UK are in a separate 0 % VAT bracket, so it is in line with the VAT deduction hypothesis.

Wow you guys have some steep **** VAT shaftage over there!

Thanks for the duduction anyway people.

[Sean_OBrien]

Yes they do - but luckily...they like to screw the rest of the world over just so they don't feel so bad in the UK.

Remember, when people go through and make comparisons to the prices from one geographic location to another - all the UK prices include VAT where appropriate (that is pretty much everything except books). So, in order to get to the actual UK price - you must deduct the VAT, since that isn't actually money going to GW...it goes to HMRC. We all get charged a premium because of the EU VAT...and outside of the EU, that extra 20% is nothing but profit.

[ModelCalamity]

Yes I did order outside of UK to where there is no GW store locally.

It did cost me 40 quids in postage to ship all the stuff over however.

But the thing is some items had the 20% off and some didn't. As I recall thing like codices and books had no discount whatsoever though.

That's because there is no VAT on books in the UK.

[thenamelessdead]

Some fairly tasty prices in the latest Daemon releases - three plastic Screamers for £18? Insulting as ever GW. In fact I went in to my local GW today and found it a most nauseating expereince - the OTT box/blister covers combined with the prices and the staff sales push just suck the life out of me.

[Tay051173096]

I Have to argue that the flamers are very nice and not to expensive.

[-DE-]

You're paying close to $7 per flamer, that's as much as a cavalry mini from GW, or a single, better sculpted and designed, metal mini from Reaper. I certainly wouldn't call that cheap. And one flat, disc-shaped miniature for $10? Only at GW!

[EmperorNorton]

I Have to argue that the flamers are very nice and not to expensive.

You certainly don't have to, and you don't argue, either. You simply state.

Looking at the € prices Flamers appear to be 10% cheaper than their Finecast counterparts and the Screamers are about 23% cheaper.
Now one can look at that in two ways. Either it's nice that the prices have gone down or it is a testament just how outrageous the price for these was before.
I for one am leaning towards the former, because I am happy they are not Finecast anymore.

[shelfunit.]

Does anyone remember the pre-FC prices of them?

[EmperorNorton]

Does anyone remember the pre-FC prices of them?

Looking at the 2007 catalogue the Flamers were 11,50€ for a blister of two, so 5,75€ apiece compared to 5,83€ now.
Screamers were 9€ each, whereas with the new box they come out as 7,67€ each.

I can live with that, although I of course wish they had stuck with the course of reducing minis significantly in price when bringing them out in plastic.

[Darnok]

I can live with most prices of the new Daemon releases, but I have one issue...

They do a limited release of this "get two, build one bigger chariot" thing - and it is priced exactly the same as two of the original kits? GW, ever heard of this magical thing called "discount"? Of course you would sell more of the bigger boxes, but the current situation gives me no reason at all to shell out for it. One box is something I could almost impulse-buy, but two are already a hefty investment.

A missed opportunity...

[Tymell]

Looking at the € prices Flamers appear to be 10% cheaper than their Finecast counterparts and the Screamers are about 23% cheaper.
Now one can look at that in two ways. Either it's nice that the prices have gone down or it is a testament just how outrageous the price for these was before.

Yeah, usually it's a case of the latter: most times when people say "Wow, that's cheaper!" about GW products it's only cheap in comparison to the price which was reached by a decade of constant unjustified rising. You can make anything seem cheap when you do that

But I do feel the screamers and flamers aren't -too- bad by current standards, the sort of prices that just about make my acceptable range with online discounts.

[jack da greenskin]

Yeah, usually it's a case of the latter: most times when people say "Wow, that's cheaper!" about GW products it's only cheap in comparison to the price which was reached by a decade of constant unjustified rising. You can make anything seem cheap when you do that

But I do feel the screamers and flamers aren't -too- bad by current standards, the sort of prices that just about make my acceptable range with online discounts.

I was thinking this too - Total wargamer's 25% off would let me get 10 plaguebearers for £13.50, and I LOVE nurgle with a passion. But then, I realised, for £18 I could get 30 or even 40 historical models, probably perry, for my clash of kings army. Easy choice really :L

[paddyalexander]

Good news for gwPLC; the Hobbit films are being expanded into a trilogy so the length of time any that they will be able to exploit the popularity of the films for addittional sales will be longer than expected.

[f2k]

Good news for gwPLC; the Hobbit films are being expanded into a trilogy so the length of time any that they will be able to exploit the popularity of the films for addittional sales will be longer than expected.

Actually, when I heard the news I thought the exact opposite. The Hobbit was never as big a story as Lord of the Rings and trying to stretch it over three movies is, in my personal opinion anyway, a rather bad move. As far as I’m concerned, it has barely enough worthwhile material for one long movie, and now they’re planning three...?

Can they really keep the hype up for that long? Somehow I doubt it. Lord of the Ring lived and died with the hype (and boy, was there a lot of it), and so will the Hobbit. But while there was something to hype with the Lord of the Rings, there’s not that much (if anything at all) to hype about the Hobbit. Indeed, compared with the buzz the preceded the lord of the Rings, the lack of buzz surrounding the Hobbit doesn’t bode well.

I might be proven wrong. Guess we’ll have to see about that...

[Ebon]

Actually, when I heard the news I thought the exact opposite. The Hobbit was never as big a story as Lord of the Rings and trying to stretch it over three movies is, in my personal opinion anyway, a rather bad move. As far as I’m concerned, it has barely enough worthwhile material for one long movie, and now they’re planning three...?

While I think there was plenty of material for one long movie, I agree that there's nowhere near enough for three.

[codeslingerMalthius]

While I think there was plenty of material for one long movie, I agree that there's nowhere near enough for three.

Maybe they're going to include some stuff from the Silly-marilly-an. Which seems like it would have a lot more potential for mass army conflicts what with the morgoth vs elves and human vs elves and well, everyone vs elves. Plus who wouldn't want to have a bunch of gods on their tabletop? Think how much GW could charge for a giant Ainur model. (see how I made it OT? )

[f2k]

As far as I understand they will include parts from various appendixes including Gandal’s travels to Dol Guldur and an expanded background on Bilbo. All of which might be interesting in fleshing out the setting but will do nothing for the pacing of the movie. Interesting how, in the Lord of the Rings, they cut out a lot of the side-stories to help the pacing but in the Hobbit they’ll add them. Go figure...

In short: while I’ll most likely go and watch the movies with my friends (just for the chance to geek out a bit) I doubt it will work as the big boost that Lord of the Rings was. And, even if it is, let’s hope that Games Workshop has learned their lesson and don’t go “fat and lazy” during lifespan of the Hobbit.

[paddyalexander]

A big factor in the short term popularity of the Lord of the Rings games that gwPLC produced was the Partnership they had with DeAgostini who produced the Battles in Middle Earth forthnightly magazine that included models, paints, dice and slowly built up the rules for playing the game as well as introducing elements of the hobby such as terrain building. It was sold in super markets and news agents everywhere, reaching a much broader audience than relying on the store model. But also importantly DeAgostini ran television adverts.

I seem to remember gwPLC stating that they will not be doing something similer for the Hobbit and I believe that this is a huge mistake. The LotR DeAgostini publication is responsable for recruiting at least as many gamers as Heroquest did in the late eighties/early nineties (again tv advertising by a production partner). If gwPLC want to even hope for a revival of the LotR "bubble" then they seriously have to take a look at the factors that produced it.

The current price levels will be a big deterent to anyone who would otherwise be interested in buying into a Hobbit miniture game, definitly placing itself outside of the impulse buy range for existing wargamers, let alone somebody from outside the hobby.

[Tymell]

While I do think the topic of The Hobbit films is interesting, I think it's going into definite off-topic territory here right now

[frozenwastes]

Well, the 2012 corporate results are in and GW turned a small profit.

So expect them to continue with the price increases of 10%+ a year. From their perspective, you'll all keep buying no matter what. Or well, enough of you will anyway. They probably can't believe "all" will anymore.