Epic red scorpions and orks http://warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=172900
Maelstrom games have the new price rise in effect from today, Tau for example have gone up A LOT. Whereas Dark Eldar appear to have stayed exactly the same.
Tau battleforce @-18% £49.20, therefore new price is £60.00. up £10
Dark Eldar battleforce @-18% £49.20, £60.00. Price unchanged?
edit: whoops, forgot it was still preorder, all of the current DE stuff has gone up. Only looked at battleforce and razorwing.
Last edited by Bowerick Wowbagger; 26-05-2011 at 17:13.
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So the new Forgeworld Siege Giant costs 38 pounds and is a complete kit?
It's now just 8 pounds more expensive than the bare GW Giant.
That's extremely cheap ...
That's like saying a wind-up kick in the nuts isn't so bad when compared to your dangling fuzzies being set on fire. I'd still avoid both.Originally Posted by 'Ronin[XiC
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Anybody that's talked to me here before know I have nothing but high praise for both WFB and 40k rules... I love the games. But...
GW's pricing is already all out of sunc with the rest of the industry and it's approach to pricing is just nuts. It's already clear that GW views this as an annual event and its not really driven by costs as much as profits. Let's be honest, moving to resin is going to cut the cost of these miniature over the long run, not increase it. There is a reason most cottage industries use resin over metals or plastic. Production is simply cheaper and easier. The molds have to be replaced periodically anyway, so the cost is already there.
Pricing has always been a problem for dedicated GW fans. When my friends and I moved to 40k 5th edition we agreed this was the last upgrade, likewise, when I agreed to reinvest in 8th edition we all agreed this was the last and we would stick with what we had from here on. Pricing is the direct reason. Except for the odd model here and there, I just made the last major investment I intend to make. I'm simply tired of feeling my hobby and my armies are a money pit and my gaming group feels the same.
The next major investment in this hobby is going to be in something new, and not in the same old thing just to stay "current." I play historicals, and over the years I've built several historical armies for different rulesets. Most are larger than my GW armies and even though I've had them for years, they are still just as valid as the day I fielded them. I don't mind investing in my hobby, and those armies represent amassive return on my investment in terms of the number of engagements they've seen over the years.
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Looks like it's not just GW doing this crap:
AUSTRALIAN retailers must explain why they charge huge mark-ups on products that cost half as much from overseas internet companies, consumer group Choice says.
And global companies with a presence in Australia prevent local customers taking advantage of cheaper prices offered on their overseas websites, it says.
Those who know don't care any more, and those who care don't know.
Aussies have been getting screwed on prices for a while now, from all over. I know video games are sometimes twice as expensive there than here in the States. They are even more expensive when purchasing them digitally through Steam. Which makes no damned sense.
I don't think anyone knows why.
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I know that retail video game stores only barely make the same margin as their international counterparts, which is down to the buy price that the local suppliers charge the retailer.
In this instance, it's down to the supplier/publisher charging inflated local costs - the extra $$ don't go to the retailer.
In GW's case, since they own the product, retail the product, ship, manufacture and cuddle the product, they really don't have much of an excuse to have the price so high.
Its actually very simple why most retailers, including GW, are doing this.
Lets assume that one day, you purchase a product for $10. You thought it was worth $10, so you bought it. Overnight, exchange rates swing drastically. The next day, you want that product again. Yesterday it was worth $10 to you - is it somehow worth less than $10 today?
Fact is that as long as consumers feel like they are getting value for their money, prices will stay. And if consumers have felt like they were getting value for money for the last 3 years, why should an overnight exchange rate shift suddenly change that? Its only knowledgeable customers - those who know the rest of the world prices - who feel like they're getting better value.
Lets take free shipping out of the equation. How much does it cost to ship a box of warhammer from the UK? Getting pretty close to, if not over, the AUD price, from the GW UK site. It doesn't even have to be an international thing; retailers even within the same shopping mall will have different prices on the same product, and as long as they are reasonable to a sufficient number of customers they won't change.
Changes in exchange rates for retail, in general, affect the importers and exporters - the suppliers. It only affects the customers when they can find a product that is Significantly cheaper online AND savings - shipping cost is still cheaper AND the savings is worth the shipping time.
As for ebooks, downloaded games, and in this case GW, it is simply the company attempting to enforce advantage of the exchange rates like they would for any physical good. In this new age of internet shopping, perhaps this is not a solid business model - but it is the old business model, and might take some time to change.
If you really hate paying extra for ebooks and Steam games, there is a simple solution; VPN.
GW Australian mark up on its products of that sold in the UK and USA is 87.5%.
It is expected that on some products there will be a 30% price rise.
An example if as expected the price increase of a Chaos Space Marine Battleforce will go from $150Au to $195Au or $206.40USD or 134.23British Pounds.
I hope i am very wrong on this but what i have been told it is going to get very ugly here in Australia once the price rises start to bite.
you aussies have it bad, some corporate mugs had better watch out that article mentioned is quite astonishing, no wonder consumers are duly voting with their wallets and following the cheapest option...
ok the exchange rates 'may' have a bearing on the price- but the difference is too big for it to be just that
indeed something is not quite right and the government should do something otherwise the economy will suffer- if this were happening in the uk there would be riots....
I hope you are right.
I hope those figures are conservative, and turn out to be higher.
Higher the better
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Prices of consumer products in UK high streets are massively inflated when compared to the price of the same product in the US. People here don't riot, they just shrug their shoulders and shop anyway.
I don't suppose anyone knows what the price increase tomorrow is going to affect? I'm wondering if I should buy a couple of things now before prices go up, but there's not much point if they're not going to increase. In particular I'm interested in specialist game stock.
I've been teetering for a while, but now I think I'll only be buying forgeworld or SG. I don't see the value in the products GW sells anymore. This is largely price increase related, but fluff decay in the army books has also been a factor.
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