Games Workshop Pricing Feedback Thread

[Sgt John Keel]

I suppose this whole issue comes down to the question of whether you think something should be priced based on the cost to the seller or the worth it has to the buyer.

Yes, which comes back to pricing according to the purpose in the game.

[sasheep]

The pack was from Crusader Miniatures. I have almost no doubt you will find them plain. At this point in my life, I have a greater appreciation for clean, simple minis. I guess I'm lucky that my tastes run to the less expensive end of the market.

I really like them. In fact I actually quite like the whole Irish range. Cheers for the link, I may end up getting some of those.

[rodmillard]

I really dont get the argument for or against prices when using in game worth. Some made up characteristics do not increase or decrease value to me. I will only pay based on physical worth, i.e:

The size of the miniature.
The detail/complexity of the miniature.
How good it looks.

I can accept (even if I dont like it) that mass produced troops can be cheaper than character minis due to the fewer units sold of characters meaning it is more difficult to make their production cost back.

Thats where it ends though. I wont pay more for mini X over mini Z beacuse apparently he has an invunerable save and costs more imaginary in game points.

Never.

Same thing for cross systems, I wont pay more for a Warmahordes/Infinity/Whatever mini because I need fewer of them to play.

I'm with you on your first point - Goldsword (etc) pricing where the same number of "elite" infantry is more expensive than "basic" infantry purely because they are better in the game is just plain wrong.

But I don't mind paying top end prices for models for use in a skirmish game. It is a lot more palatable to pay £25 for something unique that will be 1/5 of you final army than a box of infantry that will be 1/5 of a single unit - especially when that unit will still only be 1/5 of your finished army...

The irony is that until recently GW's only surviving core skirmish game was also the one that was most reasonably priced!

[thenamelessdead]

Just been looking at the VC models on the GW site - what possessed them to make the giant bats etc resin? Who in their right mind is going to want to pay £30 for three average models with a paltry in-game value? They've lost the plot now, the company is beyond help. From now on I will accept the concept of the "GW Hobby" because it flies in the face of the true meaning of gaming.

[librerian_samae]

I know this is probably old news but I got some gaming money for christmas and was going to buy a small 1000pt wotr dwarf ranger force, only to find that the boxes have half the figure content for almost no reduction in cost at all, I mean what the hell!
To top it all off this has not been mentioned officially anywhere prior to it happening spd that for a bloody laugh it's down right despicable for GW to treat their customers in such a nonchalent way, argh it really is mind boggeling surely they should be encouraging people to use their products with their rules sets not making people put things back on the shelf (or empty their on line shopping cart) with shock at those prices.

I'm off to email customer support I'm that angry about the stealth price hike AND the lack of forewarning.

sorrt about the rant plus apologies for bad spacing as I'm having to use my phone.

[Darnok]

I know this is probably old news but I got some gaming money for christmas and was going to buy a small 1000pt wotr dwarf ranger force, only to find that the boxes have half the figure content for almost no reduction in cost at all, I mean what the hell!
To top it all off this has not been mentioned officially anywhere prior to it happening spd that for a bloody laugh it's down right despicable for GW to treat their customers in such a nonchalent way, argh it really is mind boggeling surely they should be encouraging people to use their products with their rules sets not making people put things back on the shelf (or empty their on line shopping cart) with shock at those prices.

I'm off to email customer support I'm that angry about the stealth price hike AND the lack of forewarning.

sorrt about the rant plus apologies for bad spacing as I'm having to use my phone.

I'm usually not a fan of rants of any sorts. But I can understand your feelings perfectly well. That exact reaction was what I had in mind when I noticed that double stealth price increase (once for halving the contents, once for telling nobody in advance).

If there ever was any chance for me to invest into the LotR range, it has gone forever with this latest move. Well done GW!

[Vaktathi]

Just been looking at the VC models on the GW site - what possessed them to make the giant bats etc resin? Who in their right mind is going to want to pay £30 for three average models with a paltry in-game value? They've lost the plot now, the company is beyond help. From now on I will accept the concept of the "GW Hobby" because it flies in the face of the true meaning of gaming.

What's even better is that the new Forgeworld Fimir models, which are pretty decent sculpts and not exactly small, while the bats are...painfully dated, are actually cheaper

[SunTzu]

Chaos Dwarf characters are only the equivalent of £6 each as well. Good luck finding many Finecast character models for £6.

Forge World is actually literally cheaper than GW... the world has gone mad. (Well, madder).

[New Cult King]

I'm tempted to get a bunch of the Chaos Dwarfs from FW to use as an IG Kill Team

[FabricatorGeneralMike]

Chaos Dwarf characters are only the equivalent of £6 each as well. Good luck finding many Finecast character models for £6.

Forge World is actually literally cheaper than GW... the world has gone mad. (Well, madder).

In canada and Australlia it's cheaper to buy from FW then from GW proper. The world has gone mad my friend

[ihavetoomuchminis]

I'm usually not a fan of rants of any sorts. But I can understand your feelings perfectly well. That exact reaction was what I had in mind when I noticed that double stealth price increase (once for halving the contents, once for telling nobody in advance).

If there ever was any chance for me to invest into the LotR range, it has gone forever with this latest move. Well done GW!

WOW! I've realized now that they've reduced the content to half, and nearly maintained the price in all the LOTR boxes.

I'm speechless......

[Shamutanti]

No longer relevant due to other posts deleted.

[shelfunit.]

For Sterling it was pretty much cut in half. From £20.50 to £13.50.

Your maths is in dire need of improvement if you think that £13.50 is anywhere near half of £20.50.

Alot of people are getting angry over the LOTR models just 'because'. There's been bashing on that game system going on for years (especially around the white dwarf threads) because people don't like it for one way or another. So why the outrage now? :P

Rubbish. People are complaining about the price and only the price in this instance, trying to defend the price hikes by claiming people are just "bashing on the game system" is the weakest and most poorly thought out defence I have yet seen in this thread.

End of the day, Skirmish is going to come back on a relaunch and that requires smaller number of models so the big boxes aren't needed.

And yet the "big boxes" have been around since the very first LotR skirmish games - they were needed then for a skirmish game, why not now?

[Chaos and Evil]

For Sterling it was pretty much cut in half. From £20.50 to £13.50.

That is a 35% price increase on the entire LOTR plastic infantry range.

[Marauder_chieftan]

Don't know if this particular boxed set of models has been mentioned yet, as this thread is 303 pages long. But there are two particularlly bad examples of pricing in my local store in the UK.

VC Blood Knights finecast, 5 small mounted models: £61:50 WoC Knights, 5 small mounted models: £18/15 or something.

I think that the blood knights may actually be more expensive than a battalion alone.

(Worthy mention for the ringwraith boxed set of Lotr, £40 for 9 guys.)

In my opinion, they should price it £1 a model, 16 guys = £16 which is tolerable atleast. And larger flashier models like tanks and monsters, just keep them at £20. And have leaders and heroes at about £7 or something. It's not exactly cheapo, but it's certainly better than over half £100 for 5 small pieces of plastic.

[Rick_1138]

The VC Knights are well documented as being at the silly end of the pricing structure, especially now in finecast.

However this comes down to GW's somewhat dubious argument for charging more for the more powerful units, which i find rather offensive, but hey ho.

The thing is, VC knights are very hard in game, but it would be interesting to see how much they have sold since release, both in metal and finecast.

However GW's pricing has always seen criticism, but the end of the day, they still sell, as i know about 5 managers and they all say the tills are still ringing.

[Shimmergloom]

What do you expect them to say?

Meanwhile I know of at least 2 independents that went out of business who had piles of GW merchandise they couldn't sell and it only sold as they were going out of business and put it all up at 50% off. They had been stuck with piles of warhammer merchandise until the end.

And I know of a 3rd that was mainly a model store, but had an entire aisle of GW stock that went out of business for economic reasons(the owners of the outlet strip would rather the store sat vacant than not raise the rent), who put their GW stock at 50% off to sell it off. Most of it had languished on the shelf for years.

[Shimmergloom]

It's £3.25 - a pittance amount and ya'know, I consider £13.50 pretty close to £10.50. More than say £20.50

It's not. It's 6.50 more for the same amount of models. Not 3.25.

[Bael]

I am very annoyed about the LOTR stealth price hike. Luckily most of the older boxes of 24 will be around for a while longer at independent stores (unless GW recalls them) as they aren't exactly quick sellers, and on a personal note I have most of the infantry I'll ever need. I'm more annoyed that people will now be put off WOTR down the road due to the large amount of infantry needed. My only hope is that GW release battleforces for the system.

[EmperorNorton]

Assuming you were going to buy 2 boxes. I was comparing it as 1 box to 1 box. Not 24 models to 12. They halved the box contents and practicly halved the box price. Nothing wrong there.

Now you are just trolling.
Somebody else even did the math for you and you still try your best to ignore or even obscure a simple, objective fact.