Games Workshop Pricing Feedback Thread

[Autumn Leaves]

I remember that the Fantasy 8th Collector's Edition was limited to 3500 copies, which sold out within the pre-ordering period (two weeks at the time, I believe).
I have one of those lying around, collecting dust. IMO instead of actually being a nice, high quality tome it only plays at being one. My buyer's remorse is still going strong two years later. Especially since unlike other limited editions this only loses value instead of gaining it, due to the half-life period of GW's rulesets.
It's fantastic for them that they can sell a fairly large amount of the Collector's Editions in such a short time. I would never buy another one, though.

Short answer, sell it, get your money back.
I'm not a fan of the GW core game rule systems at all.
Their rule books and codices/army books have held no interest at all for me for about 8 years now.
But, that doesn't matter, because if you are lumped with them, and they are current edition, and they are a collectors edition, even better, because you can take full advantage of how GW products hold their value well in the 2nd hand market courtesy of eBay.
Every price hike works for eBay re-sellers and 2nd hand sellers and so it can work for you and your buyers remorse.

[EmperorNorton]

Short answer, sell it, get your money back.

Can't.
I put it up on ebay before, at a price I'd be okay with (below the original price). Didn't sell.
From seeing other auctions I'd be lucky to get half of what I paid for it. And considering that I'd rather keep it.

[shelfunit.]

Can't.
I put it up on ebay before, at a price I'd be okay with (below the original price). Didn't sell.
From seeing other auctions I'd be lucky to get half of what I paid for it. And considering that I'd rather keep it.

Sadly, due to it's effective 4 year life span that's going to be about the best you could expect EN. Your choices are either a 2kg shelf filler, or 40-50 euros in your pocket to spend on better things and the hindsight given knowledge that GW "collectors" editions are just very expensive paper weights...

[EmperorNorton]

Sadly, due to it's effective 4 year life span that's going to be about the best you could expect EN. Your choices are either a 2kg shelf filler, or 40-50 euros in your pocket to spend on better things and the hindsight given knowledge that GW "collectors" editions are just very expensive paper weights...

Yeah, well, I guess I'll put it on ebay again closer to Christmas and hope for the best.
The darn thing is too unwieldy to use properly and if I want to look up rules I use the small softcover anyway.

[Darnok]

I must be one of the very few people who actually enjoys having all three versions of the WHF rulebook. The small one is great for playing, as it is easy to use and handle. In contrast the BRB is a bit to unwieldy for that, but gives me a proper hobby book: background, more scenarios, shiney pictures. I enjoy all of it, I really do. And the Collectors Edition is just a pretty book. I like pretty books. It is neither very useful, nor handy for gaming, but once every few weeks I like to flip through it - and I just feel good doing that.

So yeah, for me all three of them do a good job, and I don't have regrets about getting any of them.

That said: I will wait for the 40K starterbox. In contrast to WHF I have huge amounts of background and hobby stuff about 40K already, including four rulebook editions and codizes from all back to 2nd edition. I'll browse a friends BRB for shiney pictures, and wait for the actually usable small book. Budget is tight at the moment, I just can't spend 60€ just for more background and shiney stuff...

[azhagmorglum]

Apology accepted and you have a very good point regarding how the prices of other miniature companies affect the perception of GW's prices.

Wintermute

Can I get my post back ? ^^

[EmperorNorton]

And the Collectors Edition is just a pretty book.

No, it really isn't. It pretends to be one.
I like pretty books, too. I am a literary scholar, for crying out loud; it comes with the territory.
To me it seems that with the Collector's Edition they tried to mimick medieval codices in the cheapest possible way. I have handled books from the 13th century. It does not compare at all. It feels like a parody.

[Darnok]

Obviously opinions differ.

[Morkash]

I, too have a pretty book: Tamurkhan!

Then again I'm one of the few weirdos who take the BRB to events and games because I do not even own the small one.

I guess that's the University attitude shining trough: "Has less than 500 pages? Can't be good."

On the Collector's: I never had one in hands, only Tamurkhan, Monstrous Arcanum as well as the Artbook from Skyrim (I think it's comparable because of the price). Is the Rulebook different?

[Grimmeth]

I, too have a pretty book: Tamurkhan!

Then again I'm one of the few weirdos who take the BRB to events and games because I do not even own the small one.

I guess that's the University attitude shining trough: "Has less than 500 pages? Can't be good."

On the Collector's: I never had one in hands, only Tamurkhan, Monstrous Arcanum as well as the Artbook from Skyrim (I think it's comparable because of the price). Is the Rulebook different?

I've not seen the latest one, but Tamurkhan absolutely trumps the old40k collectors edition (although the purity seal was a nice touch)

[Scaryscarymushroom]

I have handled books from the 13th century.

Europe is awesome. I'd love to see some proper ancient tomes. I bet the only thing within 1,000 miles of me that is 700 years old is the ground beneath my feet.

[ColShaw]

Europe is awesome. I'd love to see some proper ancient tomes. I bet the only thing within 1,000 miles of me that is 700 years old is the ground beneath my feet.

There's some trees in the American west that might be that old... maybe.

[codeslingerMalthius]

Europe is awesome. I'd love to see some proper ancient tomes. I bet the only thing within 1,000 miles of me that is 700 years old is the ground beneath my feet.

Anasazi stuff in the four corner areas from about 1300s or so.
On topic: How do people afford all this stuff? I've got a pretty decent professional job (software engineer) but I can't afford to buy ANYTHING miniature related at the moment. Let alone 3 copies of a rule book. Granted, I own a house and a fairly new car, but jeez, is everyone a banker or something?

[Morkash]

Well, I'm a student. I saved as much money as possible before starting and I guess I'm a relatively saving person, as in I don't have a car or go shopping clothes every month just because I need another 3 pairs of pants. My main expenses are my room and food, and with support from home I can afford to buy some stuff every now and then, like Tamurkhan and Monstrous Arcanum, even if they are expensive.

You say you have a house - the people from my surrounds who have a house do have substantially less "other things" as well, because a house and especially the ground in Bavaria is very expensive. No buying a few thousand square meters for two bags of potatoes and a crippled goat. Same for the cars. I couldn't afford any car with nowadays' petrol prices and the students who have a car (and not have wealthy parents) either have to work to keep it, or do not drive very much. So, if you live in Germany (although I suspect America) it wouldn't surprise me at all if you have no money to spend for overly expensive books and toy soldiers with a house, a new car and (I suspect) a family to feed.

[Scaryscarymushroom]

There's some trees in the American west that might be that old... maybe.

Anasazi stuff in the four corner areas from about 1300s or so.

Fair enough. I didn't really think about it before I said anything. The California redwoods are impressive. The Anasazi stuff didn't occur to me I guess because I've never thought to go down there. Since grade school, the only thing I've known about the place is that you can stand on the border of four states at once. Meh.

Somehow I manage to spend upwards of $200 a month on hobby related stuff and still pay the rent, eat, provide myself with gasoline and pay all my school-related expenses. But none of it's on GW stuff anymore.

The thing is that I work a lot. And since I have a job where I can easily spend time online, I invariably end up on Warseer, and get paid while it's happening. But since I can't make terrain or paint models at work... well. Most of my projects are started but not finished.

[Autumn Leaves]

Sadly, due to it's effective 4 year life span that's going to be about the best you could expect EN. Your choices are either a 2kg shelf filler, or 40-50 euros in your pocket to spend on better things and the hindsight given knowledge that GW "collectors" editions are just very expensive paper weights...

Whatever money you get is a bonus over something taking up space that you don't use.

[Lord Dan]

Unless you find value in the book from a collector's standpoint. EmperorNorton would love to sell the book at cost or at a slight loss, however given how much he would have to reduce the price the book it worth more to him as part of his collection (unless I'm way off base there, EN).

[strewart]

If that's the case it is even more likely that it did sell out in a single day. 4,000 copies is a fairly small run and of the few hundred thousand 40K players they should have easily sold that many.

My local GW store said they were allocated 300 copies of the special edition 40k rulebook, and all were ordered by 3pm on the 23rd, when preorders first opened. I'm pretty amazed that worldwide all sold so quickly, but it certainly must have been a short run.

I was tempted by the gamers edition even though I haven't played 40k since 4th ed, but by the time I got online the only place that had them was the US and GW US wanted to charge me $100 shipping on top of the product, so I changed my mind. I'm not disappointed, it would have been an impulse buy that I probably would have regretted.

[mulkers]

I haven't been here since the terms of trade fiasco. Anyone care to give me an update?

[Max Jet]

I haven't been here since the terms of trade fiasco. Anyone care to give me an update?

-Prices got even more insane. Increases almost across the board.

-Lord of the Ring miniatures reboxed with a healthy markup in price. Got even more expensive (so two markups in a row) this June.

-Lot's of Stores having less gaming possibilites and smaller tables.

-40k round the corner with a hefty markup in the rulebook price. It's about 45 pounds now I think.

-The support for indipendent shops along with prices you can dish out got better. The availability of direct only items got better.

-Finecast quality is unimproved (a very, very tiny amount of people desperately and without any proofs tries to tell you otherwise).

-Some Finecast translated miniatures got an insane markup in price. Sometimes more than 200%.

-Fewer people are buying the game, but the loyal costumers are more than willing to pay extra for the loss of the leaving crowds.

-Competition is growing at a healthy rate.