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    Re: Ronin "Primarch" Models

    Quote Originally Posted by Mannimarco View Post
    Are those all by Ronin? I didn't realise they had done so many of them. I had only seen, The Emperor, Horus, Sanguinius, Mortarion, Magnus, Russ and Fulgrim.
    Wow. Those are superb.

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    Re: Ronin "Primarch" Models

    It is work of the "Team North America". It's not a single guy.

    http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...America/MMVII/

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    Re: Ronin "Primarch" Models

    Sorry to bump this thread but I had another question.
    Can I put the Ronin models up for trade on the warseer trading forum?
    The Trading Forum FAQ would seem to say no
    "N.B. Any illegal items or materials that break Intellectual Property or copyright laws will be removed immediately and action taken against the user posting them.(I.e. no castings of original models or pirated materials"

    I have a Scarab Lord miniature (aka Magnus of the 1k sons) that I'm looking to sell or trade, but it seems that it is very hard to do so.

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    Re: Ronin "Primarch" Models

    I am so glad that the members of this forum always thankful for the information provided.

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    Re: Ronin "Primarch" Models

    Quote Originally Posted by Deadmanwade View Post
    Can I put the Ronin models up for trade on the warseer trading forum?
    How is Ronin models are "castings of original models or pirated materials" if GW has never done anything like that? It should be perfectly legal in my opinion.

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    Re: Ronin "Primarch" Models

    I did have a link to Hooby Imperat's Knight models on eBay, but I can't find it! If anyone could PM a good place to find them, that'd be great.

    Mannimarco, I'm looking at you.

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    Re: Ronin "Primarch" Models

    Quote Originally Posted by Y'inglye View Post
    How is Ronin models are "castings of original models or pirated materials" if GW has never done anything like that? It should be perfectly legal in my opinion.
    Because they would still violate GW's intellectual property (the symbols, the designs, iconography, etc)

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    Re: Ronin "Primarch" Models

    indeed the ronin models directly rip off (sorry, copy) the pictures in the horus heresy artbook

    you can rename the model all you want but its still pretty obvious what it is, what GW needs to do is come out and actually make the primarch models as display models (similar to the gotrek and friends diorama from a few years ago) not only would it sell tons of it would cut piracy at the same time: who are you going to buy from? GW who have proven themselves to sculpt good models (mostly) or "un-named pirates" whose models, while looking like the art dont have the same level of detail on them at all

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    Re: Ronin "Primarch" Models

    Quote Originally Posted by Fugazi View Post
    Because they would still violate GW's intellectual property (the symbols, the designs, iconography, etc)
    Only if you open a website and start selling this miniatures by a dozen.

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    Re: Ronin "Primarch" Models

    I am %99 sure that all of the Primarach models in the above link, that are on the engraved wood bases, were made by professional sculptors/40K enthusiasts, and entered into a golden demon. They are MUCH too good of quality to be the ronin models. I will try to find the link to the blog showing the gamers that modelled up those first few primarchs......

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    Re: Ronin "Primarch" Models

    I think you are at least partly wrong there.

    The Fulgrim is available here and is the same as the one in that link
    http://stores.shop.ebay.co.uk/Knight...__W0QQ_armrsZ1

    Dunno if the mini is Ronin but its certainly not a one off sculpt. The Lion here is different though.

    I have bought a couple of these. Rather nice.
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    Re: Ronin "Primarch" Models

    Actually, he is pretty much correct. They were done for GD Chicago, and were specificaly sculpted for it. The Fulgrim mini's your comparing are actually different, you can clearly see similarities but who copied who I don't know.

    TEAM NORTH AMERICA

    Link to Fulgrim from TNA

    Link to Fulgrim in Ebay shop

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    Re: Ronin "Primarch" Models

    I think it's a bit harsh describing these figures in the same way as "pirated movies".

    To copy a movie, all you have to do is rip it from the DVD, re-encode, and then it's distributable.

    With these figures people have actually had to sculpt them, using time and skill. Yeah, so they're "based" on a picture, but they are still took time and skill to produce.

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    Re: Ronin "Primarch" Models

    agreed, this is closer to someone creating their own unofficial Star Wars movie (as people have done) than pirating a copy of the original.
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    Re: Ronin "Primarch" Models

    Exactly - there's still a lot of effort that's gone into creating the end product.

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    Re: Ronin "Primarch" Models

    Quote Originally Posted by ManicMunky View Post
    I think it's a bit harsh describing these figures in the same way as "pirated movies".

    To copy a movie, all you have to do is rip it from the DVD, re-encode, and then it's distributable.

    With these figures people have actually had to sculpt them, using time and skill. Yeah, so they're "based" on a picture, but they are still took time and skill to produce.
    By that logic producing counterfeit bank notes is also fine and acceptable, since it takes time and skill to produce them.
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    Re: Ronin "Primarch" Models

    No, since they're a direct copy (such as a pirated film), whereas these figures and the above mentioned fan-films require that extra original creative spark to produce.

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    Re: Ronin "Primarch" Models

    So, why doesn't GW just deal with the issue in an awesome and utterly final manner:

    Get Jes Goodwin to sculpt Primarch miniatures as display pieces and sell them!

    There are a lot of folk who would buy them without even thinking of using them on the battlefield.
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    whoa,these sculpts are waaaaaaaaaaay better than the other ones

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