Hrafn's Legion and Retribution Plog

[Serraphim]

Sounds interesting. I think I'll try that the next time. Thanks for the tip!

You could also highlight up with either rotting flesh or Bleach bone to make it look more natural than adding white.

[skavenSte]

I must admit that i like the cold colour scheme of the legion. Cold colours seem to fit better with them than warm. With the beasts being spawned from the Nyss' blood it seems they would adopt the colder shade as their DNA will be shared to a degree, and this comes out in the flesh. As long as it follows through with all Legion of Everblight figures it will tie the force together allowing different colours to be used to differentiate between different units.
Also, for the bony areas, try a tortoise shell effect. I done this on my Carnivean by basing the area with snakebite leather and then using 2 different brown and a black ink. work them while they're wet and the blendings done for you.
hope this helps

[basher]

you've been busy cool stuff

[Hrafn]

You could also highlight up with either rotting flesh or Bleach bone to make it look more natural than adding white.

Actually, the scales on the Carnivean on the right side is highlighted with Khaki partly to dull it, partly to make it synergize with the skin (which are also highlighted with khaki). But thanks for the advice anyway

I must admit that i like the cold colour scheme of the legion. Cold colours seem to fit better with them than warm. With the beasts being spawned from the Nyss' blood it seems they would adopt the colder shade as their DNA will be shared to a degree, and this comes out in the flesh. As long as it follows through with all Legion of Everblight figures it will tie the force together allowing different colours to be used to differentiate between different units

I do agree, which is why the original scheme (before the red one) on them was very cold (see Typhon earlier in this thread). I just wanted to try something entirely else with the warm red scheme.

Also, for the bony areas, try a tortoise shell effect. I done this on my Carnivean by basing the area with snakebite leather and then using 2 different brown and a black ink. work them while they're wet and the blendings done for you.
hope this helps

Thanks I might, but I think I'll go for the cold scheme right now. I am a bit of a purist when it comes to these more "cartoony" schemes, so I'll try and stick entirely to the cold side of the palette.

you've been busy cool stuff

Thanks. Not really. It's just been a while since I was able to post with my camera and all that Much too much to do IRL I'm afraid - with summer comes gardening season among other boring and adult stuff Also, I must admit I have been unfaithful and done some work on my Flames of War forces

[Ironmonger]

Nice plog! Wish that it had been in General Sci Fi where I could have found it (grrr...), but I'll let it slide this once because of the level of painting. Keep it up! After listening to an overload of Keep of Kalessin it's a really tough call what my Hordes army is going to be now... Skorne or Legion...

[Hrafn]

Nice plog! Wish that it had been in General Sci Fi where I could have found it (grrr...), but I'll let it slide this once because of the level of painting. Keep it up! After listening to an overload of Keep of Kalessin it's a really tough call what my Hordes army is going to be now... Skorne or Legion...

I apologize Thanks!

But you do touch upon a matter which I have thought about too: It's damn hard to find Warmachine/Hordes plogs and projects on Warseer
For instance: Is Warmachine Sci Fi or Fantasy? And if it's Sci Fi and Hordes are certainly Fantasy - what about combined plogs like this one?
Perhaps we should try and suggest a PP painting forum?

Real life has gotten to me lately, I have sinned with FoW and I have been trying out alternative colour schemes for Legion - so that's why updates have been a bit sparse lately. Hopefully, that will clear up once I get the scheme for Legion right! Also, watch this space for more Retribution - I have Mage Hunters and a Gryphon awaiting assembly...

Now for the pics - first off is Tartarus:




Such a cool mini - it just photographs real badly...

Next: Trollblood Kriel Stone Bearer:




I am very satisfied with this one. The red paint scheme fits him very nicely in my opinion.

[skavenSte]

You fail to disappoint yet again, Hrafn.
I like Tartarus, looks like he means bussiness. Its great how he looks like hes forming from the ground around him.
I'm really impressed with the blending from the chest to the shoulders on the Trollblood, A+. Though i must admit the expression on its face made me chuckle a bit, as though he wasn't expecting the krielstone to be quite so heavy and wondering what he'd let himself in for,lol.
And the red works well with the brown skin, keeps it looking earthy!
Keep up the good work!!

[Hrafn]

You fail to disappoint yet again, Hrafn.
I like Tartarus, looks like he means bussiness. Its great how he looks like hes forming from the ground around him.
I'm really impressed with the blending from the chest to the shoulders on the Trollblood, A+. Though i must admit the expression on its face made me chuckle a bit, as though he wasn't expecting the krielstone to be quite so heavy and wondering what he'd let himself in for,lol.
And the red works well with the brown skin, keeps it looking earthy!
Keep up the good work!!

Thanks! Nice to hear that I've succeeded with the "rising shadow" effect on Tartarus I had not noticed the rather perplexed expression on the Kriel Stone Bearer, but seeing it now it seem just right

I have a little experiment for you. Yes, that means it's Legion time - The Carnivean:



I can't decide here. On one hand, I think this cold and dirty scheme is rather good and fitting. On the other hand, I am not quite satisfied. I just can't put my finger on it...

Considering my woes on picking a Legion scheme, I have begun to think about copying the Cryx scheme seen on these pages. It seems that many of you guys like it a lot, it's sinister, I enjoy painting it and I won't be painting any more Cryx after finishing the batch I got in the sale. What do you think? And how would you translate it into the Legion Warbeasts? I wondered whether a completely black or completely dark desaturated blue would acutally work..

[basher]

got to say hrafn i prefer the brown and black scheme

[hendybadger]

I really like it. Once again, Your plog has inspired me to do another 3 factions

[skavenSte]

cold n dirty = good
if you're having issues with it, and i'm judging this on the carnivean, maybe leave out the sharp blue and make the mouth more prominant and warm to give a contrasting colour to draw in the eye.

[Keravin]

I really like the red effect on the Kriel runes. How did you do it?

[Hrafn]

got to say hrafn i prefer the brown and black scheme

Yeah, I am not all that convinced about the white either..

I really like it. Once again, Your plog has inspired me to do another 3 factions

*bows graciously* My pleasure

cold n dirty = good
if you're having issues with it, and i'm judging this on the carnivean, maybe leave out the sharp blue and make the mouth more prominant and warm to give a contrasting colour to draw in the eye.

Not a bad idea, really. Now that you say it, I do think a warm orangey glow would contrastly nicely. It's just that for some reason I think that this scheme reflects a cold approach to Legion,and the blue glow is part of that. I have considered a purple one though..

I really like the red effect on the Kriel runes. How did you do it?

They are quite simple, actually. The runes themselves are traced with black to begin with. Then they are re-traced with scab red leaving a black outline from the layer below. Then I applied an intermediate highlight consisting of blood red, putting it mostly in intersections (or the center if there are no intersections) in the runes. Finally, I placed a dot of blazing orange in the middle of the previous layer. And that's it

On the subject of colour schemes and Legion, I am painting up a few Legion minis in a similiar version of my Cryx scheme. I am really hoping this time. Otherwise, I think that I'll frankly shelve my Legion for a while. I love them, but I can't stand playing with minis which seem "off" and remind me of it...

Besides, the combination of having found a good scheme for my TB's and the recently revealed Gunbjorn mini, I might just be lured back to the trolls

[loveless]

Hmm...

In response to "where does Warmachine go?" I seem to recall a Warmachine plog from some time ago get moved out of Sci Fi and into Fantasy. The mods are usually pretty good at moving things where they need to go. Given that this still exists here, I'm guessing it's in the right spot


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Painting comments:

Krielstone Bearer - love the skin tones on that guy. Your painting style fits Trolls well (well, you paint everything well, but you get my point)

Carnivean - Grr...it's certainly better than mine, lol. The Carnivean did not take to my paintscheme as well as other beasts. Yours looks nice, subdued, yet menacing. I would, as has been suggested, consider something other than blue to draw the eye to the mouth. My eyes are currently getting drawn more to the midsection of the body.

Once again - nice stuff.

[kormas]

hmmm, cant say that i like the change from your previous legion scheme , but oh well, this does look good

[Hrafn]

Krielstone Bearer - love the skin tones on that guy. Your painting style fits Trolls well (well, you paint everything well, but you get my point)

Carnivean - Grr...it's certainly better than mine, lol. The Carnivean did not take to my paintscheme as well as other beasts. Yours looks nice, subdued, yet menacing. I would, as has been suggested, consider something other than blue to draw the eye to the mouth. My eyes are currently getting drawn more to the midsection of the body.

Once again - nice stuff.

Thanks once again

Yeah, I think your point about the midriff of the Carnivean is quite right. The armourplates there and the curve which echoes that of the body is actually quite eyecatching, so it takes quite a lot to offset it. I might have tried an orange as suggested before- if only I hadn't settled finally on another scheme (see below!)

Your point about your Carnivean looking odd compared to the other beasts strike a chord. I have realized that Legion minis are deceptively hard to paint with a common paintscheme. The range of aestethics across the Legion range is actually huge, from the fully armoured Legionnaires, over fully clothed elves and ogryns with lots of bare flesh to the extremely simple Warbeasts. The latter consisting of naught but armoured scales (the amount of which varies wildly) to almost nothing but flesh. IMHO, all these factors make it hard to get an aestethically pleasing look across the board, even across the beasts. I have found there is a huge difference between the same scheme on for instance Shredders (barely any scales) to the Carnivean (mostly scales).

hmmm, cant say that i like the change from your previous legion scheme, but oh well, this does look good

Thanks. I did like the previous scheme. I just ended up thinking it fitted the Trollbloods a lot better...

Now for the painting:
I tried out the Cryx scheme on a Legionnaire, and I must admit I was well-pleased:



And as you can see, my camera has the same problems with Legion as Cryx

[Hrafn]

Not enough room for the rest of the new Legion pics, so I'm sorry but I'm gonna need a double post

The Deathstalker:¨



Sometime in the weekend, I'll post the warbeast scheme to go with this one. I have a Shredder almost ready to be unleashed.

Also, it seems like I'll be getting a full unit of Sentinels along with the UA in the following days, so that's another bunch of Retribution minis coming up

[skavenSte]

I love the simplicity of your Legionaires paint scheme.
Simple yet foreboding

[skavenSte]

It works well on the Deathstalker too. I really like this skulking mini, i think i'll have to get a couple, though it leaves little room for conversion work.

[basher]

love the legionnaries looks cool
and i love the new scheme on the deathstalker but the arrow heads just blend in with the top off the cloak and it looks like a big lump of black or it could be the photo