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    Fraust's Third: Deathguard and Nurgle Daemons

    Hola, this is the home of my very cherished Deathguard and Nurgle Daemon armies. The Deathguard I've had for a few years now, working on and off, building, crafting, and sculpting, only to tear half of it apart and throw it all back together. The daemons on the other hand are one of my most recent armies, and are all (well, all except for the infantry) scuplted by me.

    This first page is going to hold whatever I'm working on currently, and I'll throw work in progress pics up as the thread goes. I want to do one pic of the model before paint, durring the painting process, and after it's finished. I would do the same for the converting proccess, but the way I work is a little to haphazard for that I think. I'll try to get pics of the different scultping stages though, as they're more cut and dry.

    First off, an explination of the armies...

    My Deathguard force is a very mechinized, close range list. Normally I have to rush forward and get in peaple's faces before getting shot to bits. One of the key elements is lots and lots of special weapons, or rather lots and lots of melta and flamer weapons. Most of my plague marines are khorne berzerkers and various editions of plastic chaos marines, obviously converted to have bloated guts and boils and pustles and whatnot. There are a number of Battle for McCrage and Assault on Black Reach marines in there as well, though they are generally used as my havocs. Right now my daemon princes are interchangable between Deathguard and Nurgle daemons, though I will eventually have specific Choas Marine DPs and Chaos Daemon DPs. I'm thinking of using my dreadnought idea to represent both DPs and dreadnoughts...so I need four more AoBR boxes (or at least the dreadnoughts out of them).

    My Nurgle Daemons force is a daemonzilla army, with five monstrous creatures, and tons of plague bearers. Right now there is nothing that isn't nurgle in the force, though I might branch out into fiends of slaanesh/nurgle. I'm going to have a mono slaanesh army eventually though, so I don't want to have much cross over. I still don't know how I feel about beasts of nurgle as far as table effectiveness...though I am sculpting some, even if I end up not liking their game performance. Though I'm making models for them both, I don't generally use either of the nurgle special characters, at least not outside of apoc games. The Ku'Gath I'm making is going to sub in as a great unclean one for most games, a greater daemon for games with my Deathguard, a greater daemon in smallish games of apoc so I can use the warp rift thingy (the terrain piece icon strategim), as well as Ku'Gath in larger games of apoc, where I'm more willing to spend three hundred points on a single guy...

    Consider the model is going to be passed around my various nurgle armies like a pretty little alter boy, I figure we should start with the big guy himself. This is something I've been working on for over a year now, so no pics of progress before this point unfortunately...

    He started off as a wad of aluminium, which was covered in Sculpy to get the bulk of his form fleshed out. Next step is green stuff to give him some texture.

    I still need to bulk up his thighs a bit more before I texture them, as his legs just don't look right at the moment.

    He's going to have seven tentecles circling his mouth, which I'll put on a little later so I don't break them off while I'm still working on his body.

    The plan is to due the inside of his mouth as something of a vortex, with someone (probably a marine) being forced into it by the tentacles.

    One of his most endearing qualities is a feature specificly made for when he represents Ku'Gath. You know the necrotic flaming nurgling balls he throws? Guess where he gets them from...
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    Re: Fraust's Third: Deathguard and Nurgle Daemons

    No responces yet? Huh...ah well.

    Next up is my daemon lord of Nurgle. I forget this guy's name, and couldn't spell it even if I remembered, but this is what I'm working on to represent the big 777 point bady.


    Again, he's tinfoil and sculpy, though the only green stuff on him so far is his head and hand.


    This will be one of the huge centerpieces to the army. Along with him I'd like to make a plague reaper, plague tower, and a Nurgle themed knight titan.



    Eventually he will be riding around in true Nurgle style, atop a charriot pulled by giant beasts of Nurgle. Need to sketch up some concepts for the charriot though...


    Thinking I'm going to put two eyeballs in each socket...just something a little different.

    What might his faithfull mounts look like you ask?

    Based on a CD...puddle of mud if I remember right...Just wait until you see what my knight titan is based on!
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    Amazing. Keep it up. I'm eager to see your progress.

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    A terribly blurry pic of the core of my army...Don't worry, it get's a little clearer.


    My one eyed, no horned, giant green marine molester. Daemon Prince of Nurgle, generally with wings and rot, or just wings. Generally refered to as the Fat Man.


    Any old school fantasy players looking through here won't need introductions to this guy. A named special character model from back in the day when the army was just called Undead. Nagash, aka the Dead Man. Daemon Prince of Nurgle, equiped with wings and often times warptime.


    Don't have a name for this guy yet. Not even sure if he's going to be the first of my three chaos dreadnoughts...or the first of my two Chaos Marine daemon princes. The two above will have a permenent place in my Chaos Daemons army once everything is said and done.


    Finally (for right now) the test mini for my color scheme. I've been trying to do the streaking method I've seen on several logs here, and I don't quite have it down yet. Practice practice practice though. Chances are this guy is going to wind up either as just a display piece, or as a champ for a havoc squad.

    More a little later...right now I gotta run to spanish class.
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    Looking good!

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    One of my rhinos, complete with Vraksian driver. I'm going to have chaos militia be used for my havocs once all is said and done...though that is probably quite a while off still. For now, this gets to transport plague marines arround.


    The rest of my rhinos are pretty plain so far. A little green stuff here and there, but nothing too special. I have four rhinos total, though my new vindicator will work as either a vindi or a rhino with extra armor and dozer blade. I'll try to get pics of that for next time.


    This is a unit of five plague marines, two with melta guns. The champion in the pic is from the AoBR box, and will likely get swaped out eventually, this mini will just become a display piece. Obviously the squad is very WIP. Still need to add bloated bellies, pustules, and rough up the armor a bit. The reason for the tau weaponry is needing a whole BUNCH of melta guns for last years ard boys, and only having spare tau bits available. I do like the look of them though.


    Here's a squad of havocs. Five guys, two with flamers, two with melta guns (though not everyone has the right weapons just yet) and a champ with a combi flamer. They're a liability in kill point missions, but generally earn as many as they give out.


    Another unit of havocs. This is my favorite champion of all time...though I still need to get him a bionic leg...


    Obliterator one...made from an orgre bull and whatever weapons I had handy. I like these guys, but have sense seen very well made scratch built obliterators that I would like to emulate...so I'll make one full squad of these guys, and then start working on the better design.
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    Obliterator two...again, ogre bull.


    On the daemon front, here is the beginnings of my Epidemius model. Likely will only ever see table time in the form of apoc games...but I still couldn't resist making him. The head I had for him was made with sculpy lite...which has the unfortunate effect of disolving plastic if left stuck to it for too long. It wound up it a tool box with most of my chaos bits, and got stuck to some bases...melting most of them, and ruining the head....so I need to get hoppin' and scupt another...out of regular scupy this time...
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    Minor update, with no pics unfortunately. I'm working on a new Nurgle sculpt, though I couldn't find the memory card to my camera before I went to bed last night. Not sure if it should be a greater daemon/great unclean one, or a daemon prince. When I started on it I was thinking daemon prince, but I'm not sure how well he's going to look with wings. Might just throw a gun on one arm and call him my Mamon. I'll get pics tonight and have them up tomarrow.

    More importantly I'm effectively scrapping my Deathguard. In order to make a different looking Deathguard. Basically, I made a forge world order last night, and got what I'll need to make three or four squads of infantry, and enough other stuff that I can sell, and hopefully afford what I want to do for rhinos. So, untill my order comes in, this log is primarily going to be for my daemons.

    Here's my rough sketch of a list...mostly just various elements I know I want included...

    HQ-two daemon princes, always. Wings and mark of Nurgle. Still need to make a decision for sure on how I want my marine DPs to look. I like the possessed dreadnought idea I showed earlier, but there are a couple problems. For one, I need to get another AoBR box if I go that route...and two I'm going to use dreadnoughts in my army at high enough point values, so would need to make them distinguishable from eachother. Also, even if the new sculpt ends up with wings, I want to make a Mamnon.

    Elites-will make two units of five chosen, with two melta and three flamers. Basically, these guys are going to be for large point games, or games where I want my five man havoc squads and my vindicators at the same time. As stated above, I'm going to make two to three dreadnoughts for this army too. Not sure how often I'll use them, but I love idea of chaos dreadnoughts.

    Troops-four five man plague marine squads. Champs need to have interchangeable close combat weapon arms, as sometimes I want power fists, sometimes I don't. Two PMs are going to have melta guns, and each unit is going to ride in a repressor as soon as I can afford them.

    Fast Attack-eventually I want to make nine blight drones. I don't think I'll ever come close to using that many, 'cept maybe in a big scary game of apoc...but I love the way they look. Being that I'm a cheap bastard, I'll be making my own.

    Heavy Support-five man units of havocs, two flamers, two melta, one combi flamer and power weapon, in a rhino. Not sure exactly how, but I want these rhinos to look different from normal rhinos, though I don't want them to be more repressors. Probably keep running with the vindicator/rhino hybrid idea. Obviously, I want more vindicators too, and defilers. Havocs are going to be the default choice, though I want the other two options available.

    So that about covers it. Next update for sure is going to be the sculpt I was talking about, and probably a few other bits and bobs (would really like to get a head on Epidemius)...and hopefully it doesn't take seven years for forgeworld to ship my stuff. Got a couple supprises in there you might not expect...
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    I proudly present to you, Mr. Piggy!

    Not sure what exactly this little fella's going to wind up as game wise...but inspiration hit. Right now, I'm thinking it likely that he'll be a generic greater daemon for my Deathguard army.


    The scupy isn't cooked yet (as he's obviously in need of more attention), which is good and bad. I like the fact that I can set him down and come back to him, but I've messed up his spinal column so many times it's not funny. We're getting to the point where I can't lay him on his back, or his front, for fear of obliterating detail.


    I'm a little stuck as to what to arm him with. I'm thinking a big cleaver type weapon, and a large rusty hook...but not sure just yet. Thoughts?


    Next is one of my daemon princes. Or dreadnought...just depending on how I feel. The plan is for this to be my official Deathguard daemon prince. I wanted something that had direct ties with the chaos marine codex, and not the daemon codex. So now I need one more AoBR dreadnought for sure. That way I'll have two of the dreadnought close combat weapons for this guy, and I can sculpt two hands/claws for my second daemon prince.


    I think I'm going to put an exposed spine between his engines, and get something to represent wings. Not sure if I want actual wings of some variety, or to try and make a dreadnought sized jump pack.


    Here is the Chaos Daemons DP. Like I said earlier, I wanted the DPs to be very clearly from one codex or the other (though anyone who's played me will be confused, cuz this guy has been my deathguard prince for years). For the other two DPs I need to get more metal LoTR trolls, one of which will definately be the named character guy (forget his actual name).
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    Rear view of the Nurgle prince. Nick named the Fat Man...this guy is generally marked by Nurgle (obviously with wings), and sometimes has rot.


    For the longest time I didn't know what I wanted to use for wings on this guy, and then comes my first 'ard boys tourney, and I had to make a decision PRONTO. So about twenty minutes before my first match up, there I am, green stuffing pinning wire onto his back to make fly wings. While that was drying I was gluing arms and special weapons on my plague marines...good times.


    I've thought about cutting the hammer down and making it into a sickle instead...but I'm pretty sure I'll leave it as is and give someone else a sickle. Maybe that's what I can use as power fists on my plague marine squads.

    This is probably going to be the last update of february. For the next little while I'll be working on Mr Piggy as much as possible, and I've got some Slaanesh daemon sculpts that take bites out of my free time pool. Still need to get off my rump and redo Epi's head...though being that even when I get the chance to actually play I never use him, it's not much of a priority.

    I've got some actual gw plague marines I'm painting on commission, so I might have to show them off at some point. The color scheme is similar to the pic I showed of my scheme, only they're painted to a higher standard than the test mini was.

    Thanks for looking...comments would be cool too though...hint hint...nudge nudge...
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    This is turning out well. I like your latest sculpt. You're getting that thing pretty smooth - do you use a lot of water? The prince is amazing.

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    The last couple pics were actually one of my first scuplts ever. It's green stuff (obviously) and I slobered all over the thing. When I work with greenstuff I lick my tool (god I wish...) just about any time the tool touches the putty. If I remember corectly, a lot of the skin texture was done with the back of an exacto knife...so licking it was a definate exercise in cation.

    My latest sculpt (shown here anyways) is Mr. Piggy...the fat white guy in the hockey mask. He's made out of tinfoil covered in Sculpy (I buy it at walmart in the craft section, my girlfriend sais she's always thought of it as something kids use). It doesn't require much in the way of water (or spit in my case). Sometimes a little will help blend things, but I've probably only used any moisture two or three times ever with Sculpy.

    In other news, I made two more "Mr. Piggy's", and got a pair of legs (thighs really) on the original. Pics should be forthcoming, though I'd like to have a little more done before I update. I also started on something just completely weird. Not sure what I'll ever use it for. It's kinda a cross between a sandpuppy (also called a mormon cricket here in wyoming...what can I say, we love our bigotry) and a squid. Might end up using it as a lord of change...though I don't see myself ever using a lord of change model (much more partial to herralds on chariots). Either way, I'll get pics of it when I get the pics of Mr. Piggy and the piglets.

    Thanks for the comments by the way!
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    This army is looking really interesting, great work on the sculpts. Mr Piggy, I really like the look of, looks like he's wearing an insane hockey mask!! And the fat man, nice hammer. I look forward to seeing Mr Piggy progress, and seeing some paint on them. Nice dread too!!

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    Wow, you've got a lot of sculpting and GS in that army...awesome! Must take SO much time but SO worth the effort! I can't wait to see some stuff painted tho! Converting the LOTR trolls was a really good idea btw!

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    Re: Fraust's Third: Deathguard and Nurgle Daemons

    Thanks for the comments guys.

    eltanko-Yeah, it's a hockey mask. There's an amazing elysian army here on warseer, and the guy put hockey masks on his last chancers. Ever sense seeing that, I knew I was going to have some hockey mask dudes. My first green stuff hockey mask didn't go so well, so I figured I'd try these bigger sculpts until I got the hang of it.

    SteelTitan-It stems from being too cheap to actualy purchase anything. I spend maybe three hundred bucks a year on warhammer...everything else is sculpted, made out of trash, or traded. Just wait 'tell I get my ork walker mob up on the net...The sculpting does take a while...but I'm an insomniac, so it kinda balances out.

    Of course, one of the biggest reasons I don't have as much free time on my hands as I used to is...



    Small update...I've got two more Mr. Piggy types started. Still not exactly sure what I want to do with them, so for now I just call them practice. Here's the one thats furthest along...


    The second is still very early in it's infantcy...


    One problem I'm running into is uploading photos. I've just been uploading them straight to warseer, but I think I have five slots left in my Nurgle album...I signed up for a photobucket account but haven't done anything with it. Does anyone have any advice? I've heard a lot of complaints about photobucket, so I'm a little hesitent to deal with them.

    I've started painting...sorta. Last night and the night before I started painting a possessed and a trio of daemonettes. I keep resisting the urge to start a Slaanesh log, as I tell myself that's all stuff I'm working on while my Nurgle stuff dries...but the Nurgle stuff takes so much more time, with all the green stuffing and converting, that the Slaaneshi daemons are appearing to be much further along. Depending on how far along I get tonight on the possessed I'll throw him up tomarow. Mostly to show off what few painting skills I have.

    Still no package from the forgeworld folks, so it's going to continue to be a while before I have what infantry I really want to use. No use continuing to work on the plague marines I have if they're just proxies. I am curious about something though. I'm thinking of taking the forgeworld plague marines and making them true scale. Not sure if I should use regular marine legs with extenders though, or should I get ahold of some terminator legs? Arms are going to be sculpted special, so they wont be a problem, just need to get some wire so I'm not doing it free hand.

    I would love to paint more for this army, but everything is so far from ready to be primed. I can probably get the Fatman up and ready some time soon. Maybe finish sculpting him this month and get him painted next.
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    Re: Fraust's Third: Deathguard and Nurgle Daemons

    When I got home from school/work last night, guess what was waiting in my mail box...My forgeworld order!

    I was hoping to get pics today, so I brought the minis, and the camera...but not the memory card...

    What I have (in regards to this army anyways) is twenty FW plague marines, and five renegade enforcers. The plan is to split the plague marines into squads of four, with one enforcer each. Enforcers are going to be the aspiring champions.

    I still need to decide what sized legs are going to go on everyone, so suggestions would be grand. Also, I'm going to be scratch building/sculpting all the arms, as I just don't have an easy way to get the special weapons I need. Melta guns look like their going to primarily come from coffee straws and green stuff, where the flamers should be the easiest...as I have close to a hundred catachans still on the sprue and lots of spare cadian flamers. Now..as to whether I have enough bolters...
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    Woe, that FW order sounds good! Im low on time but i read your problems with uploading photos; try www.imageshack.us. That is where I upload all my photos and you don't need an account. I just upload one or multiple photos (both work, just select several) and push upload and use the link of the actual photo (not the link that is provided first because that will still show the imageshack page).
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    Finally got a little time with my plague marines, some paper clips, and some green stuff. No pics at the moment, but I have an idea of how I want the arms sculpted, and how it might actually work out. Should have my monthly update by this weekend.

    Got ahold of a bunch of old warzone minis, so most of my modeling time has been cliping them out of the sprue. Think I'm getting close to 100 or so of the infantry you get out of the main box. Thinking they're going to be the basis of my Nurgle aligned traitor guard.

    Been trying to figure out what I want to take to this years 'Ard Boys too...and the more I think about it the more I want to take my Nurgle daemons. Might be seeing a whole BUNCH of tape worm sculpts show up here then...as I need quite a few beasts of nurgle (probably going to use them as fiends of slaanesh for the tournament though).
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    Hey dude, lovely sculpts, really dig their proportions. One crit I could offer is really break up the variation in texture applied around the model. Try and implement planes of relatively smoother texture to balance that wonderful leathery rotting skin you've got going on now. Keep up al the sculpting work.
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    Re: Fraust's Third: Deathguard and Nurgle Daemons

    Thanks for the advice. The camera I'm using isn't the best at close up detail stuff, but I'll see if I can get pics of some of the swolen bellies I've been working on. In most of my later works I've tried to stear away from the uniform pattern my earlier stuff has.

    What I'd like to do with Mr. Piggy and friends is get a skin texture similar to what you did with the GUO at the end of your log. The skin looks stitched together to me. Not sure if I want to try it with the sculpy or green stuff after their baked.

    Work continues on the FW PMs...Lately I only have about twenty minutes in the morning before I head out for work/school while everyone else ('cept the chinchillas) is passed out. Sometimes an hour after I get home, but not always. It's good and bad. I have about seven million projects I'm working on, so having the limited ammount of time really makes me focus on priorities. Unfortunately the highest prioreties are some commissions I've very much lost interest in, and the FW khorne special character terminator guy I'm painting to throw up on ebay and fund my next mini purchase. That and getting my guard up to pare for the 'ard boys...which in the good news category translates to a pair of Nurgled up vendettas after a while (maaayyybbbee this pay check, but probably next)

    SteelTitan...thanks for the link. I'll check them out before my next update.
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