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    Praxian 317th Armoured Brigade, The Jackals (I.E Tanks!)

    I got back into the painting side of the hobby last summer and registered on Warseer with the intention of blogging about my exploits in an attempt to keep me painting. As it turns out I never got around to doing that, but miracle of miracles I have been painting consistently ever since. Not every day, certainly, but bar the odd period of busyness not a week has gone by that hasn’t seen paint put to miniature. :) 8 months on, I have just completed my SECOND model. Oh dear! :(

    Now, there are a number of extenuating circumstances for this sloth-like pace, but I just thought I’d get a disclaimer in right at the beginning that my username is unfortunately rather apt. Whilst I really enjoy painting it takes me an improbable amount of time to make any sort of visible progress. So please bear in mind that the space between updates may be rather long. It probably won’t be because I’ve given up, hopefully it won’t be because I’ve died, it’ll likely just be that my paintbrush seems to operate in a different time stream to the rest of the world. :|

    Anyway, Onwards. . . .




    The basic idea behind these guys is that Praxia, although now thoroughly modernised, has retained a feudal structure to it’s society. The ruling class counts martial ability to be of prime importance, and as the basis for their right to rule. Owning a “mount” is essential to ones claim to nobility, and a families stature is determined by the size and strength of the forces it and it’s vassals can contribute to the guard. War, they believe, is the province of the aristocracy, and as no man of noble birth would be seen WALKING into battle the guard regiments raised from the planet are entirely armoured. The infantry levies the Barons raise from their serfs are used purely for planetary defence duties.

    For the colour scheme I’d always viewed the baneblade and it’s variants with all those turrets and rivets as being more like battleships than battle tanks, so I hatched upon the idea of trying to paint them in dazzle camouflage and naming them all after WWI Royal Navy vessels.

    So, Sea-Knights basically. Except not at sea. :P

    In terms of organisation, each Duchy of Praxia is required to raise a regiment/brigade/division for the imperial guard, depending on it’s size and resources. The barons raise what forces they can from amongst their own households and vassals. These are then divided into regiments based on their class, but within those regiments units are grouped into companies under their own lords. For example, the 5th Company of the 33rd Cavalry is made up of vassals of the powerful Veraan family, one of the 4 Grand-Families of the Hive-Keep Vigil, and comprises some 47 vehicles. The less powerful Baron Groling’s 9th Company consists of only 7 tanks. This ad hoc approach to organisation is less than ideal, but no Praxian worth his salt would suffer anyone other than their own lord to be placed over their knights retainer. Each vehicle displays it’s knights own coat of arms as well as that of the regiment’s CO, and each Duchy has a camouflage livery that is unique to it’s units.

    [Basically this is all an excuse for me to paint lots of tanks (eventually), and gives me a get out clause when I get bored so I can go, “bah! What do you mean the standard size for a Leman Russ company is 10 vehicles? Baron La-dee-da spent all his families fortune on the universe’s biggest epaulets so he had to let all but 3 of his retainers go!”]


    The 317th are those regiments raised by Duke Karal Orlon, the Jackal of Respite, a middling-sized Duchy but one with a reputation for producing some of the finest tank aces in the Imperial Guard.


    317th Armoured Brigade:

    8th Heavy Cavalry Regiment (Super-Heavy)
    33rd Cavalry Regiment (Battle Tanks)
    15th Outriders (Sentinels)



    My eventual aim is to amass a company from each of these three regiments. With the proviso that there is no pre-determined size for these companies I can just add what I want to them as and when I feel like it.




    Before I [finally!] post some pictures, I thought I’d go back to those aforementioned extenuating circumstances. This involved a hell of a lot of firsts for me. I probably ended up spending about 4 times longer than necessary figuring things out, redoing and abandoning various ideas. In no particular order these were:

    First camouflaged vehicle (3-tone markings = PITA)
    First use of an airbrush (Spraying = fun. Constant cleaning = irritating)
    First use of masking (Bleeding = bad)
    First proper weathering (Sponges = awesome)
    First use of oil paints (Mig Thinner = smelly)
    First use of pigments (Mig pigments = messy)
    First attempt at designing and printing my own decals (DIY = more trouble than it’s worth (I wasted about a month waiting for these to work out. When I eventually came up with designs that I liked and worked well on a small scale, I discovered that the paper I’d got was too thick to distress like I wanted. Gave up in a huff after that and used GW ones instead :sadface: ))




    Anyway, for those of you still here, here she is . . .


    The Renown, 3rd vehicle, 2nd company, 8th Heavy Cavalry. Knight-Lieutenant Aldred Skane commanding.




















    Hardly anything turned out quite how I’d planned, and a couple of things I’m not completely happy with, but overall I really like the end result. More importantly, I know how I did it all (mostly)! Hopefully subsequent s will take a lot less time to complete, and I’ll be able to keep this thread updated semi regularly with my progress.



    Next up I’m simultaneously working on the command Hellhammer for the second company and the Regimental Commisar's Baneblade. I’m a bit of the way into them as I assembled (largely. All 3 were eBay purchases, and Renown was already built and undercoated) and base coated all three together back in October, but I’ll delay posting any pictures of them for few days so that I’ve got a bit of a buffer zone for my tortuous painting pace. :P
    Last edited by Laborious; 17-04-2010 at 11:16.

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    Some more pictures of the Renown:











    Last edited by Laborious; 10-04-2010 at 15:14.

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    Re: Praxian 317th Armoured Brigade, The Jackals (I.E Tanks!)

    very impressive work on the Blade. Really like how the whole model shows signs of a long campaign. Can't wait to see more.

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    Hehe, thanks. As I say, it was all a bit of a learning process for me this, and it's actually far more battered than I originally envisaged it (I was armed with a copy of, suprise suprise, Imperial Armour Modelling Masterclass, and was using the Cadian Stormblade as a starting point if you've seen the book), but now it's all finished I'm glad it's as knackered-looking as it is. Like 4x4's, tanks should look like they've been careering around off-road exploding stuff, not picking the kids up from school! *


    * Disclaimer - the poster accepts no responsibility whatsoever for any 4x4 "exploding stuff" that occurs as a result of reading this thread!

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    Clearing stuff off my spare memory card earlier and found some shots I’d taken back in September when I was assembling/base coating these guys:


















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    At this stage they’ve both been undercoated and given a coat of Vallejo Model Air Light Grey before starting to mask off the camouflage scheme. As you can see, I printed off a load of reference material to give me ideas on shapes and patterns, but I didn’t go out of my way to recreate exact markings. Just nabbed interesting bits from various ships.





















    And that’s it now as far as pre-existing photos go. They both had the other two colours (Model Air Pale Blue and Model Air Intermediate Blue) applied at the same time as the Renown did, so I’m currently redoing the markings where the paint bled (Top Tip - when airbrushing slower is faster in the long run. Light coats = good. Heavy coats = bad) and redoing 3rd layer markings where I don’t like the shapes once all the masking was removed. Will post more pictures once that’s done.

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    Finished tidying up most of the bleeding from the initial spraying (already seen at least two bits I missed looking at these now, but meh. Oil and rust and mud etc. will cover up any escapees. Hopefully.). You can see how bright the initial camouflage scheme is before all the weathering tones it down. I’ve started on that already, first sponging Model Air Light Grey on fairly liberally before doing to same with Chardon Granite and concentrating on the edges and hatches etc.



















    As you can see I’ve also done all the gilding, but I deliberately didn’t weather it at the same time as I did the armour. Once I’ve finished the shield and skull on the two turrets and the details on the shrines I’ll more carefully weather them with a brush so as not to obscure too much of the base colours.

    Anyway, that’s all for now. Hope you enjoy. :)

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    Teeny tiny update today. Finished up the turret emblems ready for weathering.






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    Re: Praxian 317th Armoured Brigade, The Jackals (I.E Tanks!)

    cool camo pattern, Im really impressed with your work.
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    Thanks. :)


    Today's update:


    Completed the details in the shrines and weathered all the gilding etc. with Charadon Granite to match the rest of the armour. Next I’ll define the larger paint chips with a lighter mix to accentuate them a bit more before moving on to making a start on the gunmetal and tracks etc.


















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    Nice work man, liking the camo scheme, the skull and eagle and the weathering. Will look awesome when you're done

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    Thanks. It's just a spare resin FW skull I had left over after doing a chaplain dreadnought, combined it with a bit of brass etch and voila! Jury is still out as to whether or not it was a good idea to forgo the usual black commissarial vehicle scheme. But if I change my mind I can just strip and repaint the turret black and swap it with another kit, and save wasting the work done on the main body of the tank. Of course, that would require me getting a 5th baneblade (these 3 + one that i rescued from ebay and is currently in bits under my bed having been dismantled and stripped and is going to require a trawlers worth of camo netting to disguise how badly it was mistreated) to swap the body with, but one can never have too many tanks.

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    This one of the coolest baneblades I've ever seen... if not the coolest.. Extremely well done sir

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    Quote Originally Posted by precinctomega View Post
    Amazing work:a real reference point for weathered tanks!

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    Thank you very much, precinct. Going to be a bit busy this weekend with a Christening, but hopefully I'll be at a stage early next week where I can apply the decals and start properly weathering these guys. Easily the most fun part of the first one.


    Quote Originally Posted by Toschenko View Post
    This one of the coolest baneblades I've ever seen... if not the coolest.. Extremely well done sir

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    Whilst I don't think that's anywhere near to being true, I’m very flattered that you think so, Tosh. Especially seeing as I’ve just had a quick gander at your thread (No idea how I’ve missed it before now) and the INTERIOR of your vehicles seem to be 10 times better than the exteriors of mine.

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    Brilliant looking tanks mate, super weathered, just the way i like them

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laborious View Post
    Whilst I don't think that's anywhere near to being true, I’m very flattered that you think so, Tosh.
    You're being way too humble mate, this is something to be very proud of!
    Besides that I'm so liking the three-tone camo scheme, could you point me to a GW/Tamiya/Vallejo Game Color equivalent (ok, just one of the three choices would suffice ) of the colours you used? Especially the one with the slightly torquoise-tone.

    Thanks in advance and... keep up with the astonishing work!

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    Jaw drop omg i wanna stop playing eldar just to paint a bane blade now!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sheep View Post
    Brilliant looking tanks mate, super weathered, just the way i like them

    Cheers

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    Jaw drop omg i wanna stop playing eldar just to paint a bane blade now!

    Thanks guys. Don't stop though Eskimo! When I eventually get fed up of painting tanks I have something big and stompy from forgeworld that I'm so going to steal some of the posing of your Wraithlord for. Be helpful if you've painted it by then too.


    Quote Originally Posted by Toschenko View Post
    You're being way too humble mate, this is something to be very proud of!
    Besides that I'm so liking the three-tone camo scheme, could you point me to a GW/Tamiya/Vallejo Game Color equivalent (ok, just one of the three choices would suffice ) of the colours you used? Especially the one with the slightly torquoise-tone.

    Thanks in advance and... keep up with the astonishing work!

    Toschenko

    TBH with you Tosh I’d quite like some equivalents too! The Vallejo Model Air range sprays really well (obviously) but when I’ve needed to just touch up small, awkward areas by brush it's been a real pain as the paints really don't like it. Just had a quick search on Maelstrom and vallejo do colours of the same names (Light Grey, Intermediate Blue, Pale Blue) in the Model Color range, but the swatches don't match (which doesn't mean much. Bought quite a few bottles of Game Color from them the other day which arrived this morning, half of which are nowhere near what they looked like on the site. ) so they may not match up at all.

    Going on purely what I have in my paint drawer:

    Astronomican Grey is ever so slightly lighter than the Model Air Light Grey, but is a fairly good match.

    The Model Air Intermediate Blue is actually more a blue-grey really. Fenris grey is a similar sort of combination but a shade or two lighter.

    The Model Air Pale Blue is really awkward, as like you say it's a sort of greeny, bluey turquoise (Frankly, whoever named these paints should be shot. Completely misleading!) and I don't recall any GW colour like it.


    *edit*I had a look on here and those Model Color variants look to be the same as the Model Air range, so that would be your best bet obviously if you wanted exact matches.


    Hope that’s vaguely helped.

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    Only one word I can say:

    WOW!

    Awesome painting

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