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    The Road to a Gaming Table

    Recently (okay, last year), half a dozen friends and I stopped playing games at our local GW due to unfortunate disagreements with the manager there. We decided to make our own board and start our own club. Five or six of us meet up every week to chat and play and have fun.
    To this end, I bought a Realm of Battle Board, some craters, and two Imperial Sectors. We then took a trip to the scrap store to get a whole load of useful things. We started making some terrain, and painting the board. We didn't get all that far. We built enough terrain to play on, and then the project faltered somewhat. Now I've decided to attack is with renewed vigour!
    This is the story of that project.

    We play games in both the 40k and WFB universes, and we want a terrain collection to represent that. For 40k we want enough to play a Cities of Death game, and for Fantasy we want enough to play a Mordheim game. The eventual plan is to have more than enough scenery so that we can swap and change for different games.

    First off, we'll start with the board itself. It is finished now (with the exception of painting the edges black), but I only have pictures up until the second to third last step. I'll get pictures of the completed board up ASAP!
    We discussed a fair amount what kind of board we wanted. We did not want plain brown with patches of grass. We did want something that would be useable for a variety of scenarios in both game systems. We wanted something different, something that hadn't been done before (or at least not done properly), and something cool.
    We settled on a snow theme. At this time, Space Wolves hadn't been rereleased, and we'd never seen a snowy RoB board before.
    That was a fine idea, but didn't really help with any narrative for the games we would be playing.
    We changed our minds a little and expanded the theme somewhat.
    Now, the RoB board can be separated into two distinct areas. There're the flat plains, and the hills. We decided to separate them even more and turn the plains into a frozen lake, and the hills into the snowy, rocky shore. More on the reasons for this in later posts.
    So we had our theme! The next step was actually starting the work.
    Note: everytime I say "I" from now on, it was mostly a joint effort between me and one or two other friends at a time. It was getting annoying using that detached style!

    Day One.


    Smushy.

    The first thing I realised is that a frozen lake would not be full of skulls (I'd realised that any board I made would not be full of skulls, but that's beside the point). So the first day of work was spent removing every single skull from the board. It was a lot of work. Luckily my friend has a Dremel, which made the whole process somewhat more painless!
    It took ages, but was definately worth it.


    Day two (these days didn't happen in a row, in fact it took around 9 months to see this start to finish).



    This was the day of Spraygun madness. I sprayed the board. A lot. It was sprayed white first, then dark blue, then light blue, then light grey, then white, then blue some more, until I was happy with the base coat. Yes, base coat. At this stage, I sprayed the board completely with hair spray to seal it.


    Day three.



    What's that white stuff on the board? Is that meant to be snow?
    Well, no, it's not. I'd looked at probably hundreds of pictures of iced over lakes, and there's this lovely mottled effect they sometimes get. That's what I wanted. That white stuff on the board is in fact a salt and water paste. It was added randomly all over. The idea is that the salt is a masking tool to retain the colour underneath in crazy patches, while another colour is painted on top. It's how Forgeworld do a lot of the rust and paint chips on their vehicles, but I was pretty sure that the technique would carry over okay. And besides, if it didn't, it's not like it'd ruin £150 worth of plastic!
    The salt needs to dry completely before you move on, so that day was particularly short.


    Day four!



    Now comes the spraying over the entire board. I sprayed again using light blue, light grey and white. It's done in a fairly random pattern, concentrating more on the flat than the upper areas. You then leave it to dry completely again (over night preferably).


    Day five.



    And then you take the salt off! It should flake off alright. If there're any stiff bits, go at them with an old toothbrush. The hair spray coat way back should keep the paint underneath from flaking off. I then added a few more colours. A wash all over of light blue to blend the colours together, and then another light spray of white over the top to bring the colour back up again.


    Day six



    This is the last step I have a picture of at the moment, like I said, I'll get some more shortly. I apologise for the colours on this one, they're still very similar to the last step in real life.
    As you can see, this step is all about the raised areas. I sponged over all the rocky bits with a dark grey, then again a few times with progressively lighter colours. I then sponged the area with pure white in several coats to build up the paint. The original plan was to add snow flock to all the snowy areas, but soon realised that plan was silly. It would look a little odd, and all the flock would rub off when the board is stored anyway. The sponged white looks a lot better.
    In this stage I also gave a wash of blue around the edges of the raised areas to show a little more contrast to the ice lake. I also added the same wash to the cracks in the ex-skull pits, and painted the pits themselves in a dark blue colour.

    So that's the start of the project! There's a lot more in store, so stick around! I'll get more pictures of the board to you soon, and then I can introduce you to the 40k buildings we've started to make and paint. Stop back soon!
    If you like what I've done, please comment! If you don't like it, say that too! If you have any questions, requests or demands, feel free to ask, request or voice them!

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    Re: The Road to a Gaming Table

    I like it! I'm kinda glad that you are gettin g shot of the awful skull pits!
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    Sweet gaming board. Bet your Ogres will look brilliant on this. I'll second wolf scout the skulls needed to go.

    Interesting salt technique. My mother used to do that on watercolor paintings, putting salt over wet washes to get some really amazing looking texture effects.

    Will that cracked section be sporting a mini lake effect (exposed water)?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1IAh...eature=channel
    Something similar to this I guess

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    Re: The Road to a Gaming Table

    Great looking board...........feel cold just looking at it!!

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    I bet your ogres and Chaos army will look brilliant on this great board. A good start, to say the least!

    Still, sad about the skulls. They're my favourite part of the GW gaming table. If nothing else, considering the amount of skulls carried around be each and every second warrior in Warhammer, some of them are ought to fall when on the march. Hm, it might be that all too many wars are fought in order to get all the skulls. Hell, there must be large archaeological reservoirs of skulls somewhere, where a unit of warriors once drowned in a quagmire, weighed down by their load of crania. Future archaeologists will conclude that long ago, people had a lot more heads than they have now.

    The board's chill, but let's hope the pace of progress is red-hot.

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    I was reading the first post while secretly hoping for a snow theme, and YES !! It looks brilliant, and the frozen lake effect created with the salt adds a lot to the awesomeness! Am I mistaken, or did you convert the skull pits into cool pools of dark icy water? (I hope I'm not mistaken ) Your armies will look completely fantastic in this field. Be sure to add some more details, like small sprays of blood & gore here and there! And also take a picture of the finished field with your ogres on

    I'm waiting patiently for the terrain pieces (Only the WFB ones )
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    Yes it looks great but I've run out of stuff to look at on page one. Get on with it.
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    Re: The Road to a Gaming Table

    The board is looking really good. I like you really cant see the appeal of the skulls and why they were put on the boards in the first place. The snow/ice is actually really effective and the whole time I was looking at the pictures I kept thinking a Space Wolves army would be at home on that board (mabey some Thousand Sons to appose them to).
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    Re: The Road to a Gaming Table

    Thanks all! Been doing some more work on the board, got some preeeeetty good updates coming your way!
    First though: comments!

    Ewan: Cheers! Agreed, those skull pits really don't look so good.

    GoPM: Something like that, yep!

    Mega Nutz: That's good! It'll only get colder once there's scenery on.

    Elves: The only problem I have is that I don't currently have any 40k armies based in snow to play on it! Need to go back and change some armies I think!

    Mazer: The Ogres were sort of a give away though eh? You're not mistaken about the skull pits, pictures below! WFB terrain may take a little while, but I'll be starting on it before finishing the 40k stuff completely. Looking to get a playable battlefield for both systems first.

    Dannage: Okay okay! I'm going I'm going!

    BigCheese: I agree, I always wondered why they put skulls on it. The cracks are great to add some extra detail to otherwise flat board sections, but skulls? I was also confused when GW released the extra board sections which were just the two flat pieces again. Why not make some cooler sections, like rivers or ruins or something?

    Mrtn: You're too kind!

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    Right! Time for some pictures.
    After the last step in my first post, a bit more has been done.
    The first Thing I did was to coat the snow hill areas with a mix of salt and very fine silver glitter. The white paint on its own doesn't really show the crisp feel of snow in sunlight, so I did this to emulate that. It was a bit obvious at first, but after varnishing dulled it down some, it provides a nice effect.
    The next step was to make the ice look more like ice. Contrast between the hills and flats was important to me. The ice I wanted to be shiny rather than flat. The first idea was to apply water effects all over. However, seeing how much there was and how expensive (and not very effective) water effects is, I had to rethink the strategy. I purchased some clear resin, and set to work. We made some banding for the boards out of wood. Made it nice and tight on each section, then poured on the resin. This stuff is pretty stinky, so I left it in a well-ventilated room overnight to dry, and even then it smelled for a few weeks until it was completely solid.
    That was pretty much it! After the resin was dry, we had to go at it with sandpaper around the edges where some of it leaked. It was a pain because it stopped the boards going together properly. Took about an hour of two people sanding down, but it's definately worth it for nice smooth edges.

    Anyway! I said pictures, so here we are!











    I'm not sure all of it shows up so well, but there you go! Best I can do for now.
    With the exception of painting the edges of the boards in black, it's now entirely finished and makes for fun games (pictures of that to follow)!

    Would love to hear what you all think. I think it's a pretty cool board, and I've never seen another one like it, so that's good!

    Next update will include pictures of the scenery we've started on, and a more detailed explanation of what that will involve!

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    Looking great so far! The ice looks very realistic!
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    This is the best board I have ever seen in warhammer

    The snow effect, the ocean effect, the lake effect (even the rock effect) are soooo nicely done! B-r-i-l-l-i-a-n-t!
    I have so many things to ask but because I know I won't be able to ever accomplish them, I'll just ask: Do you do commissions in this thread? If yes, I'm interested in a board like this!
    I BEG for a picture with your ogres and your warriors of chaos on this board!
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    That looks fantastic!
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    Ice lake gets a thumbs up from blighty.

    Favourite bit has to be the cracked ice with water under it. I personally think the idea of skulls in a pit is okay, in terms of novelty value, but if it's not chaos terrain, such an idea is a bit out of place. I would have preferred them to have maybe included a bitz pack with various things you could put in the pits... Still, skull dremelling aside, I am pretty sure you enjoyed making it and you did and awfully good job. Need to see it in use now though!

    mrtn has a point that you are limited to the sorts of scenery you can add to it. Icy caves seems like a good idea!
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    Burrr...looks chilly.
    Great idea turning the broken stone into ice.
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    Excellently done! Love the board.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lew_b81 View Post
    With the exception of painting the edges of the boards in black, it's now entirely finished and makes for fun games (pictures of that to follow)!
    I'm not sure painting the edges black would improve it, making the edges dark would show on the lines where the board pieces meet. I think it looks fine as it is now!

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    The ice looks great! Would be nice to build some terrain pieces to match the table - make some pieces of rock that are 'boiling up', like they're emerging because of some underground/underwater vulcanic activity! Perhaps it's an enemy magician @ work or somethin'!

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    O_O

    I want to play in that table! Amazing the "ice lake" efect!

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    ...What Gonfrask said...

    The table looks amazing Lew! I would love to play on that thing... too bad I don't have a winter based army (yet), and too bad I live in Canada.

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