Tactica: 8th Edition Lizardmen

[MOMUS]

The lizard book states that kroxigors MUST go in the 2nd rank (unless there aren't enough skinks), so there'll never be kroxigors behind kroxigors in a skink cohort. The unit will just get wider.

I am stating that a single kroxigor takes up the space of four skinks, the front of the kroxigor will be in rank 2 and the bach of his base will be in rank three.

There was me thinking i had missed some cool lizzie tactical discussion

So im thinking of attending Stormlords in October http://www.warseer.com/forums/showth...th-7th-October

If I do I would like to take a double slann list, it would look something like this:

Slann general, D.scroll

Slann, BSB

Scar vet, cold one, LA, charmed shield, dawnstone, burning blade

Scar vet, cold one, LA, GW, dragonhelm, amulet of Itzl, firefly venom

Priest

10 cohorts
10 cohorts
10 cohorts, musician
10 skirmishers
10 skirmishers
10 skirmishers
10 skirmishers

3 terradons
3 terradons
7 chameleons
7 chameleons

1 sallie
1 sallie
1 razordon
1 razordon

[MOMUS]

Lizardmen speedbumps/redirectors: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-HGOtPP5tY&feature=plcp

[Malorian]

I agree, lizardmen are an army of great throw away units.


I was just thinking: I have always though double slann is horrible because of the points you put in, but oddly I like the idea of double grey seer due to double 13th. Does anyone rule double slann with the same lore in order to get double dwellers or something along those lines?

It still seems overly expensive, but it sits better in my mind having a spell you can force through twice rather than a list of spells you can only do once.

[MOMUS]

I agree, lizardmen are an army of great throw away units.


I was just thinking: I have always though double slann is horrible because of the points you put in, but oddly I like the idea of double grey seer due to double 13th. Does anyone rule double slann with the same lore in order to get double dwellers or something along those lines?

It still seems overly expensive, but it sits better in my mind having a spell you can force through twice rather than a list of spells you can only do once.

Double ruminating slann could be just great but extra dice use/generation is nearly always capped in UK tournaments. My friend suggested double light slann so that your saurus would be getting speed of light and time warp nearly every turn and just roll over the enemy.

Or rather than double life how about two different mega death spells? Something like a ruminating life and loremaster death, you could get throne (draw out dice) and then try dwellers (draw out more dice/D.scroll). Then you could do a cheap character snipe gain extra dice and throw them all at purple sun.

[Malorian]

Luckily everything is legal in north america apart from an accros the table throat punch


Has any one tried it with power stone on one and forbidden rod on the other to really make an insane magic phase?

[MOMUS]

Luckily everything is legal in north america apart from an accros the table throat punch


Has any one tried it with power stone on one and forbidden rod on the other to really make an insane magic phase?

I would love to see a battle report with you taking double slann and your brother taking double grey seer.

[Malorian]

Double 13 is extremely deadly... temple guard simply disappear...


So I assume no one has used the combination I stated above?

[tanka]

I've used double light slann, does everything the single light slann does just so much better. Losing a party slann normally means losing the game anyway, so having 2 doesn't make that much of a difference. Most of the events over here have comp on the 'big spells' meaning LOS for the slanns so 13th isn't quite as scary as it would be.

[MOMUS]

What I would really like to do is not take double scar vet. I would like to try and take a skink cruise missile, i know it came up a few pages back but cant find it.


Items off the top of my head for him to take;

Spear+VotFF =gives +1S of the charge (mounted) and magical/poisoned attacks and doesnt take up much magical points so i can put other tasty gear on him
Gold sigil sword
Potion of strength/foolhardiness
banehead
tormentor sword

[MOMUS]

The Lore of Heavens augment spell allows the target to reroll all to-hit and to-wound rolls of 1. If cast on a wizard (or a unit containing a wizard), can this be used to reroll to-wound rolls on spells?

Simply, Yes.

Hmmm. No bad with 2 or 3 solid damage spells in Heavens. Especially since they are all high Strength and would mostly only fail on 1s anyway. This could almost assure wounds for however many hits they take. Guess I always just assumed to cast it on melee or ranged groups.

. . . or in combination with the Death spell where you auto wound on 2+ . . .

This is a very cool idea, using a spell to augment your slanns spells. Although the dice needed to cast with the priest could probably be used to better effect by the slann, unless using when combined with a death slann (in which case you could have two cakes and eat them) by gaining extra dice with the lore attribute (the likelyhood of which would be increased by rerolling those 1's).

[SevenSins]

Quite a bit of the current topic this, I'm playing around with a thunder lizards idea, anyone tried cramming 5+ stegadons in 2000 points? Thinking along the line of engine, 3 regular stegs, 1 ancient and filling in the rest with some blocks and a little chaff. Thoughts/experiences?

[warplock]

I also have a question - anyone use Tetto'eko much? I've searched this thread and there are a few posts about him, the last one was last year and he had been used to great effect in a tournament. I can't believe I dismissed him before along with the rest of the abysmal LM SCs. He looks to be absolutely amazing, almost a mini-Teclis for about half the cost. And his spell casting isn't even my favourite thing about him - I love the fact that you can redeploy D3 units! He would give you a massive edge. I plan on making a model for him right away.

[N810]

lol yea not quite Teclis, I believe the concencus is that his irrestible on any doubles ability only last one turn,
also he has no miscast protection.

Despite that I have heard good things about him, and have seen him in a couple of list.

[warplock]

lol yea not quite Teclis, I believe the concencus is that his irrestible on any doubles ability only last one turn,
also he has no miscast protection.

Despite that I have heard good things about him, and have seen him in a couple of list.

Yeah it only lasts one turn, I remember reading something about people trying to twist the words to mean you can use it every turn, but that was just silly. And no miscast protection sucks, but then again he'd have to cost a lot more if he had it. Plus, when he gets IR on doubles it doesn't count as a miscast unless he rolled double 6, so it's still pretty good. Now I just have to make a suitable model (so much for 'right away'!)

[Col. Dash]

As my favorite character in the game, can anyone think of an effective list built around Chatax? Been struggling but continue to come up with nothing really.

[xNytmare]

Short of an immensely sized game, and even then, Templeguard don't really need unbreakable from Chatax. Even with a 100pt reduction, I would still feel skeptical of including him in the army. It's really a shame that the Special Characters are so horrendously over-costed.

[warplock]

I can't think of any use for Chakax other than to handicap yourself, he's an awesome character but unfortunately at his cost you are effectively playing at a 150 point handicap.

[Glen_Savet]

I use the model as a great weapon wielding scar vet. Chakax himself is waaaaay too expensive.

[Dungeon_Lawyer]

As my favorite character in the game, can anyone think of an effective list built around Chatax? Been struggling but continue to come up with nothing really.

A large unit of temple guard and a slann perhaps?

The rest is just filler to suite your tastes. Have fun! Who cares about the points costs!

[MOMUS]

Quite a bit of the current topic this, I'm playing around with a thunder lizards idea, anyone tried cramming 5+ stegadons in 2000 points? Thinking along the line of engine, 3 regular stegs, 1 ancient and filling in the rest with some blocks and a little chaff. Thoughts/experiences?

I think a monster mash style army is pretty viable, you are going to be taking alot of chaff to support them i take it? I think in some comp packs monster lists are actually better than the standard lizard fare.

I also have a question - anyone use Tetto'eko much? I've searched this thread and there are a few posts about him, the last one was last year and he had been used to great effect in a tournament. I can't believe I dismissed him before along with the rest of the abysmal LM SCs. He looks to be absolutely amazing, almost a mini-Teclis for about half the cost. And his spell casting isn't even my favourite thing about him - I love the fact that you can redeploy D3 units! He would give you a massive edge. I plan on making a model for him right away.

Tetto'eko is great! But still overcosted
The D3 redeploys is a really great ability and probably the best thing about him, if used with a very mobile listand maybe 2/3 stegs is could be a nightmare. I wouldnt bother bunker him in skinks, just put him in a unit of skirmishers.

As my favorite character in the game, can anyone think of an effective list built around Chatax? Been struggling but continue to come up with nothing really.

No. Sadly i think you would get more use out of him by just taking him as a scar-vet/temple guard champ.




I keep having the idea of dropping the double scarvet from my skirmisher list and taking a couple of mounted chiefs instead, one cruise-missile style and one with the staff that shoots S5. Anyone use it?