Paranormal questions answered here...

[New Cult King]

I'd be interested to see if the tap turns on etc if somebody is actually in the bathroom watching it, or if what is being experienced is just an "echo" - you hear the sounds etc, but the physical components don't actually move.

There are several ways of getting a resident gribbly to move on, some "harsher" than others... The first, and the one I would recommend for a deceased family member, is to simply ask. When the activity is occuring, simply ask for it to stop, and for the person responsible to move on.

If this doesn't work, I will share other methods by PM. There is one in particular of my own devising that is very effective.

As to why these sort of things happen more often at night... I think that ghostly activity happens all the time, but we are more able to perceive it at night for several reasons: we, as humans, seem to have an innate fear of the dark; because of this and the lack of other sensual stimuli (such as a lack of light to see by, and things being quieter at night) our sense are "enhanced" to a level that makes detecting subtle things easier. There's also a theory about changes in the Earth's atmosphere at night when it is not exposed to the Sun's light/radiation, but I don't know the science enough to make any assumptions.

And Lord Lucifer - if that comment was loosely directed at me, I am open minded to all sorts of explanations. I just like the wonder of things, and I don't want to see science take all the magic from the world. If this was a "Scientific questions answered here..." thread, I would be focusing on scientific explanations, but since it's not...

[TheSonOfAbbadon]

Your skepticism was made quite clear, and it still has little to no bearing on the question at hand.
What I am looking for is a way to get rid of her whether she is real or imagined.

It has everything to do with the question at hand.

To get rid of it, we have to determine what it is, if she has hard, undeniable proof that something is happening in the house that isn't her imagination but some incorporeal entity, then I have no idea what to do, no one would have any experience in getting rid of it.

If it's her mind [which it probably is] then she needs to go see a head doctor.

[New Cult King]

...no one would have any experience in getting rid of it.

*coughs*

I've done it before. More than once. And I have also managed to bring a household of people to accept and live with a haunting, rather than get rid of it. Like I said, there are several ways to do it, varying in severity.

[TheSonOfAbbadon]

Yes, you, New Cult King have performed many well documented and not fake exorcisms that you just thought up by yourself...

What is it with people who claim to have been haunted and claim to have performed exorcism and NOT being able to collect hard, undeniable evidence?!

[New Cult King]

What kind of evidence should we present for your approval, Lord High Know-It-All?

Would you like video footage? No, I guess that can be faked. How about photographs? No, they can be faked as well. Anecdotal evidence is out because it does not conform to scientific process.

So please, I'm all ears. For many skeptics no evidence is enough. What "hard, undeniable evidence" would satisfy you?

Just for clarification though, I have never performed, nor claimed to have performed an exorcism. Your own ignorance is becoming increasingly obvious with every post you make.

What I have done is visted the sites of hauntings (people's homes in my cases), and either ceased the activity there, or as in one particular case, managed a level of peace that allowed the haunting to continue, and the inhabitants of the house to live with it.

I have tried to keep my temper here, but it's wearing thin. This thread is not entitled "I will provide undeniable scientific evidence of the paranormal that will rock the foundations of what we thought we knew!" I cannot, and will not do this. If you have nothing constructive to contribute and just want to troll here insulting the people who genuinely have questions or answers, then I will report you as a troll. It's simple. Go find something else to do with your time.

[geto]

I think someone asked this earlier in the thread but couldnt find the answer. Ive heard lines here and there of Werjaguar Cults in the Myan/ Aztec culture. Do you have any info on that?

[New Cult King]

According to Aztec and Mayan mythology, a Nahual was a protective spirit like a guardian angel, that had an animal aspect. Everybody in those societies had one; the type of animal depended on what that person was born. As the qualities of the Nahual were considered to carry-over to the child, parents would often keep the identity of a child's Nahual secret until the child was old and mature enough to benefit from the knowledge, to prevent the child from blaming inappopriate behaviour on the negative aspects of the Nahual.

Mexican shamans and wizards were referred to as Nahuales or Naguales. The common belief was that if a person knew the identity of their Nahual (spirit guardian) they could tap into it's power to heal and perform magical feats, so shape-shifting legends were born from such "curanderos" (tribal doctors) "becoming" like their Nahual in order to access that power.

In many Shamanic cultures, if somebody wished to take on the powers and abilities of an animal, they would wear the animal's skin/feathers, and dance/act like the animal in order to bring their own awareness closer to that of the creature. Psychoactive plants and roots were often used in these ceremonies, which probably added to the illusion that a human had become an animal, or half-human half-animal.

As to the specific were-jaguar cults, I do not have any specific information, but can only assume that they are groups of people who consider the jaguar to be their group Nahual, and take on it's form through ritual and dance.

[Lord Lucifer]

And Lord Lucifer - if that comment was loosely directed at me, I am open minded to all sorts of explanations. I just like the wonder of things, and I don't want to see science take all the magic from the world. If this was a "Scientific questions answered here..." thread, I would be focusing on scientific explanations, but since it's not...

I believe Einstein was quoted as stating that there are two ways in which you can view the world. One is that nothing is a miracle. The other, is that everything is

The comment wasn't directed at you, I just enjoy discussing peripheral factors to issues of belief, and pointing out that skeptic or believer, people are capable of being open-minded or closed-minded irrespective of the stand they take.
You strike me as open-minded and accept that you may be mistaken (and in this thread intimate what you currently hold to be true, or perhaps only possible, or merely interesting and considered true by another source)

Discussions on the paranormal and cryptozoological are fun. I love hearing about hauntings and ghost stories, and the real-life events referenced in individual stories (by which I mean the 'worldly events' that would relate or lead to the 'otherworldly events', for instance the story behind a reported haunting, of the events surrounding the death of the person considered to be haunting... and I say 'person considered to be haunting' because I don't often hear of ghosts carrying around passports, ID cards, or dental records so we can identify them easily )


This thread may be inaccurately named. "Questions about belief in the Paranormal answered" would be more accurate, probably. The answers given might not be true, as they're derived from personal interest and investigation into beliefs rather than facts. The title implies factual truth, or at least could imply that you are offering unquestionable truth.
And to make my stance clear, I'm not saying that your responses are wrong, but rather that they could be wrong, and presenting them as possibilities would perhaps be the more appropriate way to go about it (although the less authoritative responses would probably kill the Q&A format the thread was created for and has been following)




Sorry the above was overly wordy, I'm tired and tend to ramble

Your skepticism was made quite clear, and it still has little to no bearing on the question at hand.
What I am looking for is a way to get rid of her whether she is real or imagined.

Well, the skepticism could well have some bearing. Bear with me here
You're looking to get rid of the problem, irrespective of whether it is real or imagined. You don't what it is, you accept it COULD be imagined.
It's generally easier to prove or disprove some form of mental condition than it is to prove or disprove a paranormal experience.
It would be easier to exhaust the mundane avenues before attempting to answer it with the 'super-natural'.
If it proves not to be mental, at least you've narrowed down the possibilities. Truth by elimination

Why do these experiences, whatever they are, generally occur at night?

*LAYMAN ALERT!*
Perhaps the happen just as much during the day, but we tend to notice them more at night? Daytime is busy and far more active, and we're more focussed on the daily grind. At night, things get quieter, and we may be more inclined to let our minds wander and focus on our surroundings, and on ourselves, and etcetera and so forth.

The "What if they're not real?" answer could say that at night we're more willing to believe, we focus more on something, and with incomplete information about it, try to fill in the gaps with anything that comes to mind. What we don't see always seems more real in our minds than what we do see. Ever notice how scary movies tend to be scarier at night? In the dark, it's easier to believe there really might be zombies out there, that a killer could be inside a room you've left unattended. The sleep of reason creates monsters, as Francisco de Goya titled one of his works. We don't tend to be scared of what is in front of us, but more by what could be in front of us.

Which is a crap, idiot way of saying that at night you could be at a more appropriate frame of mind to believe a paranormal event is occuring.
Or, you could believe that you're in a more receptive frame of mind.

[Octavius]

First of all thank you guys very much for your input. NCK I think I will have her attempt to address it and hopefully that will have the intended result. If not I will contact you and go from there.

Lordlucifer, you are absolutely correct it is far easier to diagnose a mental condition then the paranormal. However here is why I have chosen to humor her.

A) Being that I am not a skeptic due to my own experiences, I am willing to entertain the fact that this is a real haunting; she really has no reason to lie to me.

B) Due to the situations surrounding this supposed haunting and her still delicate emotional state, I am more then willing to run through the motions of banishing an imagined spirit brought upon by her own grief. To make a suggestion that she has a mental condition, at least at this moment, I feel is jumping the gun. Grief and the grieving process manifest itself in strange ways. At least in this situation it would be easier to confront the supernatural then it would be to explore a deficiency in the cognitive process. The only problem I see, and what appears to be to be the basis for most of the skeptic vs believer arguments, is what if the problem is solved……well then did it banish the ghost or did it banish a psychological problem. There really would be no answer to that, and another person would join the ranks of believers without proof.

Anyway if the above mentioned solution does not work, well.....we will have to cross that bridge when we get there. Then that will either require undeniable proof or looking into the mental state of the person.

Oh and the question as to why this phenomenon only seems to happen at night. Well in this particular situation, the time of death was 3:04 am, since the activity correlates directly with the time of death by happenstance its at night.

[Hlokk]

NCK: I didnt know you'd done exorcisms before.

I personally know a priest who is trained to perform exorcisms (suprisingly, not all of them are) and he told me the key to exorcism is not the words spoken, nor the use of holy water/whatever, its belief in the power of Christ and the Holy Spirit to drive the demon/ghost/whatever out. I keep asking him to take me along when he goes, but he's refused so far.

What other forms do exorcisms take in different cultures? A friend of mine, Lara, says she saw a girl beaten with sticks in Haiti to drive the demons out.

Do other religions/belief systems have exorcisms?

Also, through all this paranormal stuff you've mentioned and experienced, what are your opinions on conventional belief systems ie: Catholosism, Judaeism etc...

[Strictly Commercial]

I've always told people at church I want to see an unclean spirit driven out of a person and they always emphatically say "No, you don't!" (if they've been present for one). Which of course only fed my curiosity. However, over the years I've found that it is usually true that when a majority of people tell you that you don't want to experience something, they are usually right, so I'm more than willing to forgo this, but I still wonder sometimes.

[New Cult King]

I haven't performed any exorcisms, per se. I have done cleansings, I guess, to rid places of hautings. I havenever gone toe to toe with a demon inside another human... and I would never want to.

Yes, there are other forms of exorcisms, such as the beating of with sticks, making loud noises or singing/chanting to drive the evil spirit away, using various incenses, prayers etc. Sometimes an attempt is made to trick the evil spirit, sometimes it is begged to leave, sometimes it is forced. I don't have a great deal of study of exorcisms under my belt, so I'm sorry for this paltry offering.

My feelings about the more conventional belief systems are: to each their own. I cannot and will not say that a person's beliefs are mistaken or wrong. All I ask is that they not try to convert me, or save my soul. I know "Christians" who are utter ********s, but I know some who are gentle, kind, loving, intelligent, and happy to sit and talk about aliens and UFOs. I can't in good conscience label an entire religion based on the actions of a few. The idea of God is not incompatible with my own beliefs, either. I just see "Him" a little differently.

[ROCKY]

I haven't performed any exorcisms, per se. I have done cleansings, I guess, to rid places of hautings. I havenever gone toe to toe with a demon inside another human... and I would never want to.

Yes, there are other forms of exorcisms, such as the beating of with sticks, making loud noises or singing/chanting to drive the evil spirit away, using various incenses, prayers etc. Sometimes an attempt is made to trick the evil spirit, sometimes it is begged to leave, sometimes it is forced. I don't have a great deal of study of exorcisms under my belt, so I'm sorry for this paltry offering.

My feelings about the more conventional belief systems are: to each their own. I cannot and will not say that a person's beliefs are mistaken or wrong. All I ask is that they not try to convert me, or save my soul. I know "Christians" who are utter ********s, but I know some who are gentle, kind, loving, intelligent, and happy to sit and talk about aliens and UFOs. I can't in good conscience label an entire religion based on the actions of a few. The idea of God is not incompatible with my own beliefs, either. I just see "Him" a little differently.

You are a priest? And does exorcisms really exist? I thought that these were some extremist jokes?

[Strictly Commercial]

You are a priest? And does exorcisms really exist? I thought that these were some extremist jokes?

Some are, I suppose, others are genuinely believed to be exorcisms. Some practices involve inflicting pain on the victim so the spirit invading wishes to leave, others simply involve convincing it to leave. In the case of religions, it is believed that the authority of the person casting out a spirit is higher than the spirits, so say someone using the authority of God, the architect of the universe, is going to be able to do so. I believe in the latter, although I understand the experience has many viewpoints (including the belief that it is all hocus).

[skavenguy13]

There's one thing I find strange. Of course you're not alone doing this, but why is it you never encounter anyone in your "underworld" and such? And if there are so many ways to... access those paranormal things, how come so few people can do it/believe it? And is there a limit to what those activities could do?

[Inquisitor_Matt]

What do you know about protection from the dark arts? More on the side of Catholic "approved". I know that there is more to the spiritual world than just Heaven and hell but the Church warns about searching as not to become more subsetable to evil or even posesd. For me I believe the best defence is a stong faith in God. How does one get rid of ghosts fome a house? At my old house I think someone was wandering about. When i was 4 or 5 my parents woke up and went into my room and they found be sitting up talking to someone and I said I was talking to the man at the foot of my bed. Now I don't remember that but up untill we moved I would sometimes hear footsteps in my bedroom at night. One time our stereo in our living room went on in the middle of the night blazing loud to a station the we never listened to. I even considerd becoming an Exorsist but that was when I was younger. (geeze im talking like im an old geezer im only 18 )

[Inquisitor_Matt]

My feelings about the more conventional belief systems are: to each their own. I cannot and will not say that a person's beliefs are mistaken or wrong. All I ask is that they not try to convert me, or save my soul. I know "Christians" who are utter ********s, but I know some who are gentle, kind, loving, intelligent, and happy to sit and talk about aliens and UFOs. I can't in good conscience label an entire religion based on the actions of a few. The idea of God is not incompatible with my own beliefs, either. I just see "Him" a little differently.

I hate it when people find out I'm Catholic they think I have a stick up my butt and am a close-minded "missionary". I know "Christians" who are like that but if you ask me, being like that is the totally opposite of the meaning of Christianity. I do believe in UFOs and other life, the universe is a big place after all how can we not be alone?

[New Cult King]

You are a priest? And does exorcisms really exist?

No no no no! I think there's been some misunderstanding! I am not a priest, nor have I ever carried out, attempted, nor attended an exorcism. I go to haunted houses and sort them out. I do not deal with demons, whatever they may be. Exorcisms are real, yes, but whether they are casting out demons or solving some psychosomatic problems I could not say.

There's one thing I find strange. Of course you're not alone doing this, but why is it you never encounter anyone in your "underworld" and such? And if there are so many ways to... access those paranormal things, how come so few people can do it/believe it? And is there a limit to what those activities could do?

I do encounter hundreds of people in the Underworld, but since I don't know any of them from my waking life, I can't just say "Hi Jim! Fancy meeting you here!" The reason so few people believe in it is because we in the Western world live in a society ruled by religious and scientific cosmologies, neither of which leave much room for the paranormal. Look at all of the "scientists" coming into this thread - there really are precious few people who believe in this kind of thing, and without belief, you can do nothing. Could you drive a car if you didn't believe cars existed?

What do you know about protection from the dark arts? More on the side of Catholic "approved".

Very little about Catholic-approved methods. There are many ways to protect yourself, from sigils and servitors, to talismans and amulets, to meditation and visualisation. The best way to allow somebody power over you is to believe they can have that power. If you deny their potency, you rob them of any ability to harm you.

As to cleansing a house of a haunting, I have a few methods involving speaking to the spirit, using certain incenses or combinations of incenses, various "washes" to "paint" the walls with, certain prayers and commands. I have taken a few established methods, but also created a couple of my own.

[Compyraptor]

Ok I've got one after watching this program on the telly last night on the Sci Fi channel with Roger Moore. It's about this thing called Project Isis which was supposedly conducted by the KGB. I hadn't heard of it before until last night and it certainly was interesting. It was about the KGB finding this secret tomb somewhere in Egypt that contained a mummified alien. It had footage of the excavation as well.

So this morning I decided I'd have a look on the internet to see if I can find anything else on it. Nothing on Wiki, and nothing on Google. On the program there was also this (I think he was Russian) scientist who wrote a book on it. So I thought I'd have a look on Amazon. Nothing. So I began to wonder if it's in fact one big hoax. It wouldn't surprise me.

So do any of you lot know of this Project Isis? Is it real, or is it just a hoax?

[C. Langana]

Project Isis? That sounds like the a fictional device, no one really names uber secret projects after anything related to them since WWII when the allies guessed what a project concerned from it's codename, then bombed it.