Xelee's WOTR Battle Reports

[Xelee]

LotR or WotR battle report: WotR

I'm a bit allergic to the posting format and pictures on this forum, so I'll post the blog link to the full report:

http://roughwotr.blogspot.com/2010/1...vs-071010.html

I played James at our local club last night.

James had:
Full nine strong Riders with Theoden
Four Oathsworn Militia with Eomer
Two companies of Oathsworn Bow
Six strong Elfhelm's Riders

I had the army of the Reunited Kingdom led by the High King himself.
Elessar.
Faramir
Elphir (Isildur)
Four companies of Ithilien Warriors
Three Companies of Ithilien Warriors
Four Companies of Eriador Warriors
Three Companies of Anfalas Warriors
(all of these are straight WOMT)
Five Companies of Axemen of Lossarnach
Five Companies of Knights

He had banners etc, I took none of that. Personally, if I were to play Rohan I'd 'counts as' everyone except Elfhelm's lot as Royal Knights. That way they'd at least perform like they probably shood. Cav bowfire doesn't do enough in this game to worry about losing.

Cheers for the game, James.

[Gilfred The Iron Knight]

no problem. i am looking forward to the rematch. Lets hope my Haradrim do better.

[Xelee]

no problem. i am looking forward to the rematch. Lets hope my Haradrim do better.

Hehehe.

Well, the list you faced evolved in part through a 'back to basics' approach on my part. I'm still trying to get Carn Dum to 'click' for me. Always getting nuked by the Beige Wizard hasn't been helping any though. You reckon running away from the Mumak all game is a viable strategy?

(edit) btw if one of us has a camera, I'll post a report of the rematch, even if all that's left of my army is Oliphant prints.

[Gilfred The Iron Knight]

. You reckon running away from the Mumak all game is a viable strategy?

that would completly depend on whether or not you can make your "at the double" rolls

[Xelee]

Well lets see how things turned out, eh? Pt 1. is here: http://roughwotr.blogspot.com/2010/1...-carn-dum.html

I'll post up the rest tommorrow.

It was a really fun game, James. I like the way Mumaks work in this game and shudder a little at the thought of facing two. Martin reckoned they are 250pts? So the Witch-King should perhaps pick one up and take it back north to help his army, if he makes it back that is.

[Xelee]

And here is part II: http://roughwotr.blogspot.com/2010/1...p-1000pts.html

Thanks for the game James! That Mumak was a real force, and if you had not thrown away Suladan and his cavalry for no gain at the outset, I really do think you would have had the win there.

I think I might get my commupance on Sunday vs Jason's Isengard, led by the deadly Beige Wizard.

[Xelee]

Here is a batrep for Carn Dum (the army that took on the Haradrim) vs Rohan, using some houserules we like.

I think they balanced things out pretty well.
Part 1
http://roughwotr.blogspot.com/2010/1...-vs-rohan.html
Part 2
http://roughwotr.blogspot.com/2010/1...-vs-rohan.html

[Xelee]

And a posting on Carn Dum vs Elves - once more with houserules: see the enhanced Elven shooting in action vs a heavy infantry army.

http://roughwotr.blogspot.com/2010/1...now-table.html

[Feanorthenoldor]

thanks a lot for the battle reports guys!!

i was especially interested in the BR with the elves...they're my army.

So thanks a lot!

[Xelee]

Cheers Feanorthenoldor, I'm glad someone is apprecciating them

The deadly Beige Wizard and Isengard actually fell before the legions of the West, but we're up against each other today (using houserules this time - less heavy inf for me) so another report of that will follow.

[Cuchulain84]

Great blog! I've followed.

[Xelee]

And here is part one of the report of the latest round of the ongoing struggle between good and Evil. Part 2 will follow, tomorrow.

http://roughwotr.blogspot.com/2010/1...d-kingdom.html

[Xelee]

And part 2 is here: http://roughwotr.blogspot.com/2010/1...ingdom_30.html

Well done Jason, you punished my lack of initiative severely - those Ferals with Dark fury are something I'd recommend for any Isengard force!

The houserules worked well too. I can't make a 3+ Will of Iron rule to save my life, but making Crossbows move or shoot really helped balance them and making Epic Strike only + meant that duels vs characters without it are not effectively auto-kills with mass collateral damage. It was good to see Riders of Rohan actually do something useful as well.

My main conclusion forcebuild wise from this battle is that yes, bows are just useless and another Epic is always going to be more useful to me than even a good Legendary formation like the White (Gray) Company.

[HRM]

I love these Battle Reports - they're written in the style I love to read the most. Great stuff!

I must say I find it a little sad that you guys feel the need to implement the "Riders Of Rohan Get Lances" rule. I personally feel that the Riders are fine as-is; they're a harassment unit, not a combat one. I must be wrong, though - not ONE person I've talked to about it has agreed with me, haha!

[Xelee]

Cheers for the comments HRM.

I put that change in at about the point I realised that if I was going to play a Rohan list, the entire thing would be 'counts as' Royal Knights. That is a non-house-ruled way to make them have a chance. An aggressive lance charge can smash a flank unit for little loss (if those units are not well covered) so four units of the things actually has a chance vs even heavy inf.

Have you found that using them as light cav really ever worked for you?

[HRM]

Cheers for the comments HRM.

I put that change in at about the point I realised that if I was going to play a Rohan list, the entire thing would be 'counts as' Royal Knights. That is a non-house-ruled way to make them have a chance. An aggressive lance charge can smash a flank unit for little loss (if those units are not well covered) so four units of the things actually has a chance vs even heavy inf.

Have you found that using them as light cav really ever worked for you?

It's the only thing I've ever had success with them. Lots of 3- or 4-company strong formations, no upgrades. They've replaced Outriders in my armies in that role - though I still use at least one unit of Outriders. I let my Sons Of Eorl and Royal Knights do the heavy (or what passes for heavy in a Rohan list) hitting. You absolutely MUST enter combat on YOUR terms with Rohan, no exceptions, and that means - in part at least - offering him too many targets to focus on, causing him to (hopefully) do something stupid.

*shrug* These are just things that have worked for me; I refuse to house-rule or "counts-as" anything.

[Xelee]

We had a good close match on Tuesday, this time with Gondor getting to use the 'White Wizard.'

http://roughwotr.blogspot.com/2010/1...te-wizard.html

Not the conspicuous use of 'Epic Fail' on the Cav attack and then the prolonged exercise on the part of my heavy infantry to dig me out of that hole. I bet they felt just like the Late Empire legionaries, on a number of occasions. Next time around (since the houserules remove all the silly reasons not to) I will just put Captains in my Cavalry!

Cheers

[Xelee]

Happy New Year, all. We got in a 3vs all 700pt game last Thursday. It was a lot of fun, and we'll have to repeat the format. Report is here: http://roughwotr.blogspot.com/2010/1...-3-vs-all.html

[Xelee]

I missed updating a second lot of battles (they are in-brief elsewhere on the blog).

I do have a full report of our first try of the new GW 'Attack of the Corsairs' scenario. We modified it, using the mission guidelines, to fight it our as a raid by the men of Rhohavian on the farmers of Carn Dum. The attacking Raiders (Riders of Rohan) made his replenishing troops be the Cavalry.

Report is here: http://roughwotr.blogspot.com/2011/0...-corsairs.html

[HRM]

That was a blast to read. We haven't tried that "Raid" scenario yet.