Updating the Kabal of the Bloody Klaw

[Lockjaw]

I have played DE since 3rd, now there's a new codex and new models, my old warriors look a little shabby. So for the first time with any army I've had, I've gotten new models, and working on repainting the entire army.

Right now I have a squad of the new kabalite warriors,

old models I have-
4 10 man units of warriors, 16 wytches (some are converted old school Witch Elves from WFB), 3 reaver jetbikes (one converted from a craftworld jetbike)
2 Haemonculous (1 stock, 1 is converted from a raider gunner) 12 Incubi (old 3rd ed. version, a couple have the trenchcoats)
1 Talos (converted wraithlord)
2 raiders (1 scratchbuilt and unfinished, possibly will be scrapped)
1 metal female archon, old style
5 old school grotesques (converted from the ampire counts zombie sprue)

plans:
I've painted the new warriors, and will be working on repainting the army to match their paint scheme, the original colors were chaos black armor, mithril silver for the spikes, and weapons, red gloves and boots, the new warriors have storm blue armor and gold details, weapons are storm blue and drybrushed with boltgun metal, so the rest of the army will follow that color, possiblly will keep the red gloves.
I have about 8 extra old school warriors, I've converted 3 into Sslyth, trying to work out ideas for Meduseans.
I swapped some heads on the old warriors with the new helmets, as A. I liked them better, and B. the old bare female warrior heads that were replaced, look way too much like my 4th grade teacher from many years ago, she was not a 'hot teacher' either, think the wicked witch of the east's face with a perm.

As time goes by, I plan on getting more new warriors and phasing out the old, to use for conversions possibly. I'm looking into getting the new raider, as I like how they look much better, models I don't want to replace though,
Incubi (as nice as the new ones look, I like my old ones)
Wytches (I may get the new wytch models to add to them though, considering having enough for 3 army list options eventually)
reaver jetbikes (the one model that I prefer the old style more)
Haemonculous (I like my converted one)
archon
and my talos-wraihlord


I'll post pictures of the new warriors and some of my past DE conversions once I find my camera

[Lockjaw]

ok, pictures, first, one of my Haemonculi, Maicha:



now, some of the new warriors, I'm kind of changing my color scheme with the army with them too, it used to be chaos black and mithril silver, with blood red gloves , now it's storm blue, with gold details, drybrushed boltgun metal for the weapons, and red hands :

[Dezmord]

I know that my words sound harsh, but posting pics in a log is usually an action taken to show something and getting some constructive feedback, so I'll be honest: The warriors are a mess.

That being said, I'll have to say that you've chosen a quite simple colourscheme that should work very well in painting a complete army. Here are a few things to keep in mind:

1. Prime all your models (preferably with Chaos Black Primer)
2. Clean up your models: There are blue spots all over your models
3. Use washes to give the models some depth - example: paint the weapons with Boltgun Metal and wash them afterwards with Badab Black. Will look much better that way.

I hope this helps.

[Lockjaw]

yeah, I'll admit I kind of rush jobbed it, probably will go back and work on them more

[kharandhil]

I'm sorry, but I see absolitely no effort in these guys, these aren't toy soldiers you get when you are 5 year old.

It will sound harsh,but I'll give the truth: if you intend to post more stuff like this or something with 2 minutes worth of extra effort, you'll only get negative responses.

[Lockjaw]

like I said, still working on them, but thanks for the encouragement

[Rabid Bunny 666]

They're looking a bit rough at the moment, but every model you paint you'll get better. Try watering down your paints a bit. Ink washes are also a brilliant way of bringing out detail.

[Meriwether]

Ink washes are not only brilliant, they're *easy* -- especially when combined with drybrushing. Check out my new project log for a lazy-way basecoat using ink backwards... And then painting and inking over that to achieve depth.

[Lockjaw]

tired an ink wash on one, and like how the armor looks, chestnut unk, and gives it this kind of glossy sheen that looks like insect carapace, I'll try seeing how it looks with some drybrush tomorrow

[Dr.Clock]

One helpful hint:

Paint from the bottom up.

Your blue undercoat seems to have splashed all over your metal and cloth details. Either that or you've laid down a layer of blue on everything and then have poor coverage when you apply a different colour.

I used to do much the same thing... but always got frustrated at the number of coats needed to conceal a base-coat.

My suggestion is to take these models as a basis for the rest, and plan out your painting.

Put the blue only where it will actually end up... Make sure you get it in the recesses and don't actually paint the metal and cloth parts - although a few splashes won't hurt.

Then you paint the raised portions in metal or red for tabards.

Brown inks are great: they can really give a model a tonne of depth and unity if you use the right pallette. blue, red and metal can all take a brown ink quite easily... so the hardest part of these models is going to simply be getting your colours separated and solid in advance of a solid inking of the whole thing.

As you get used to this process, you can throw drybrushing in there to bring up your tones a bit more and focus more on the ridges. Remember that ink can go on quite dark... I often over-compensate highlights so that they still show through a heavy inking.

Cheers,

The Good Doctor.

[Meriwether]

I have been experimenting with Devlan Mud and Ogryn Flesh recently, and I must say that they are both rather fantastic washes. I almost think that you could use either one as a dip after base coating a model, and by and large it would turn out better than most of what you see on most peoples' tabletops.

[Alith_Anar]

Devlan Mud is pretty much recognized across all the internetz as the most awesome ink of all. Give it a whirl!

[Lockjaw]

I've been distracted from this

anyway, the new warriors, I hit them with chestnut ink, and working out a cracked tile base for the army. I've also started giving the old warriors a basecoat of storm blue as well.
sybarite:




I really kind of wish i'd gone with all helmets, since I hate painting faces

[Lockjaw]

my old Talos was a converted wraithlord, I haven't started repainting it much yet, aside from some blue, will get a similar wash to the rest:


leg detail:


another warrior:

[Lockjaw]

old dracon, from a real old eldar mini:


warrior:



darklance warrior:

[Lockjaw]

and started work on converting wracks, I wanted the kind of featureless visors, but didn't have those heads on hand, attempted making some out of GS, I'm probably going to get some of the actual heads and replace them, since only a couple really turned out well. one of them has the end of a kroot rifle replacing a hand, this will be the liquifyer gun, bodies are classic warriors

[Lockjaw]

Sslyth, I started converting them with classic warrior torsos, 1 eash, and gs snake tails, with extra arms tacked on the torsos, then I saw conversions here:
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=290774 and stole the idea (except te tyranid tails)
the one with the gs head will probably have it replaced with one of the newer helmets once i get more:





and this one uses parts of Vect that have sat in my bitz for years:

[Lockjaw]

and this is my converted jetbike from years ago, I'm considering replacing the rider once I repaint it, but the converted wytch was a P.I.A. to pose right.

te canopy already has some blue, mostly to get an idea of overall look

[Lockjaw]

another of the new warriors:




and one of the old school models, repainted blue and hit with wash, the newer ones will likely be my trueborn, while the classics will be my test tube babies.

All the older models are in the process of teir guns getting painted red:



I have about roughly 39 more of these to repaint, their original colors were chaos black armor, mithril silver helmets, blades, guns and blood red hands

[Lockjaw]

I haven't actually found Devlan mud at my local store, but the chestnut ink seems to give the armor a slight chitnous look, if I can find some devlin mud, i might try it on a test model