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    Don't Under Estimate The Power Of The Dark side

    Well the net is buzzing about who has obtained the license for Star Wars after WOTC gave up on their minis game.

    At first FFG seemed the obvious choice but I just read someone now believes it could be the big GW.

    How good would packs of plastic multi pose Stormtroopers be etc.

    Secretly I always hoped it may be GW but with fingers starting to point towards GW as most of the rest have said they didn't get it. I am starting to wonder if there could be some truth in it.

    Anyone else out there catching anything on the rumour winds?

    Edit - Sorry went in to general instead of rumour by accident. Mod's feel free to move the thread in to the rumour section. Sorry Chim
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    Re: Don't Under Estimate The Power Of The Dark side

    Unlikely to be anything other than prepainted collectables due to the license fees involved in dealing with LucasArts. You have to target the biggest audience possible to make money on Star Wars products.

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    I would sell my body for a top quality Star Wars tabletop ruleset and miniature range, but I doubt it will happen for the reason Olith stated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olith View Post
    Unlikely to be anything other than prepainted collectables due to the license fees involved in dealing with LucasArts. You have to target the biggest audience possible to make money on Star Wars products.

    Or charge a fortune. Knight Models are certainly not a mass-market licencee, after all.

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    Re: Don't Under Estimate The Power Of The Dark side

    I would kill a man for a Storm Trooper squad box. A plastic, unpainted, multi-part Storm Trooper squad box.

    Word is it won't be Mongoose, or FFG. It won't be GW as I seem to recall they're not terribly hot on licensed properties, which is a shame as they can make good stuff when they actually try.
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    Re: Don't Under Estimate The Power Of The Dark side

    On 1st April 2010 Battlefront (Flames of War) made 10 announcements 5 of which they said were true. One was that they were going for the franchise. They never explained which ones were correct in the end...

    How tall is an AT AT in 15mm?

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    Unlikely to be anything other than prepainted collectables due to the license fees involved in dealing with LucasArts. You have to target the biggest audience possible to make money on Star Wars products.
    Interesting point but then again West End Games did it with their SW tabletop battles rule set.

    I would sell my body for a top quality Star Wars tabletop ruleset and miniature range
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    I would kill a man for a Storm Trooper squad box. A plastic, unpainted, multi-part Storm Trooper squad box.
    A bit extreme but acceptable under the circumstances.

    How tall is an AT AT in 15mm?
    15mm

    Sorry just couldn't resist that but you do have a point. A 15mm range could open up the big Hoth battle scene.

    If anyone hears anything on who license be sure to let us know. I will keep an eye out for anymore indications or denials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahwell Skel View Post
    On 1st April 2010 Battlefront (Flames of War) made 10 announcements 5 of which they said were true. One was that they were going for the franchise. They never explained which ones were correct in the end...

    How tall is an AT AT in 15mm?
    225mm. Assuming by "15mm" you mean 1: 100 scale.

    Quote Originally Posted by _Chimaera View Post
    Interesting point but then again West End Games did it with their SW tabletop battles rule set.
    When WEG put out the Star Wars RPG the licence was worthless compared to what it's worth now.

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    Originally Posted by Mahwell Skel
    On 1st April 2010 Battlefront (Flames of War) made 10 announcements 5 of which they said were true. One was that they were going for the franchise. They never explained which ones were correct in the end...

    How tall is an AT AT in 15mm?
    225mm. Assuming by "15mm" you mean 1: 100 scale.


    Originally Posted by _Chimaera
    Interesting point but then again West End Games did it with their SW tabletop battles rule set.

    When WEG put out the Star Wars RPG the licence was worthless compared to what it's worth now.
    Got to want an AT-AT LOL. They will sell until the cows come home so long as they are sculpted well. Hopefully in plastic.

    Your right WEG didn't have as powerful a license as it is now. But they did get the ball rolling and there was tabletop skirmish rules.

    The main problem in my opinion with WEG was the minis sculpts were not that great over the range although some were good.

    Whoever has the license needs to think good and hard about how a game will look.

    I think they should go down the route of something between RPG and tabletop rules. Something like the rule set of Earth Reborn (see boardgamegeek for info) could be an interesting rule set as it allows for a lot of interaction and an RPG flavour.

    A sub set of rules for larger skirmish type battles would have a supporting place and allow for a larger sale of minis and larger scale battles.

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    Did FFG come out and deny they had the license? Last I heard they were being coyly uninformative...
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    Re: Don't Under Estimate The Power Of The Dark side

    When Mongoose said they failed to get the licence last year they said they were competing against a company experienced in board card type games but not know for minatures. This leans towards FFG given their board/card situation with occaisional "minatures" and would seem to rule out Battlefront and GW. I do wonder however how much a company can make on Star Wars RPG/game franchise as against the cost? GW might have the financial clout to do it but then again could they stand that it might be better than 40k??

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    Thanks for the ATAT replies. Hope they come in packs of 3!!!

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    Well could also be Wizards of the Coast, I think Mark Rosewater said something about a new game with dices and so on.
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    Just for info. Denials so far.

    Mongoose Publishing
    Paizo
    SJG Games
    Green Ronin
    White Wolf Publishing
    Margaret Weis Games
    Eden Studios
    Palladium

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    Re: Don't Under Estimate The Power Of The Dark side

    Quote Originally Posted by xeno106 View Post
    Well could also be Wizards of the Coast, I think Mark Rosewater said something about a new game with dices and so on.
    Wasn't it WotC that let the license go?

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    Why does every franchise game mongoose have die ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xeno106 View Post
    Well could also be Wizards of the Coast, I think Mark Rosewater said something about a new game with dices and so on.
    That'll be their new Lord of the Rings game.

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    Re: Don't Under Estimate The Power Of The Dark side

    Premium price for GW logo, premium price for Star Wars logo, perhaps premium price for being a non-core game...

    Nah can't see it happening, the price alone would make the goldswords seem like they were made of dirt.
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    Knight Models currently charge €15 each for their 30mm Star Wars miniatures (Currently Luke, Han, Vader, Chewie and C-3PO, Anakin, General Kenobi and a pair of female Jedi - Lumina Unduli and someone else). I wonder how much of that is simply high production costs and how much is licencing fees?

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    Quote Originally Posted by neXus6 View Post
    Premium price for GW logo, premium price for Star Wars logo, perhaps premium price for being a non-core game...

    Nah can't see it happening, the price alone would make the goldswords seem like they were made of dirt.
    Non-core games tend to be cheaper since they are usually less popular, also the LOTR game was much cheaper than WHFB and 40k. But yeah I doubt GW has it. Mantic doesn't either.

    Knight Models prices could also be set high because they know its a quality product that people will pay more for, but I don't know what their sales are like TBH so could be wrong.

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    Wow! I loved the SW CMG as a game, but hated the minis and collectible aspect. If FFG or GW has picked up that licence it would be amazing.

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