'Pre-Heresy Thousand Sons; The Forces Of Prospero Project Log'

[BasetheRuin]

I second all of the above. What a striking pose! And incredible good robots, love you use of StarQuest dreads.

[Mega Nutz]

Sweet looking build, certainly fits its purpose and looks amazing!

[Mr Wizard]

Just out of curiosity, where'd the scarabs on the chests of the terminators come from? I've been planning a conversion like this and I keep running into the problem of covering up the standard Imperial stuff.

[Proiteus]

CONQUEROR ONLINE!
Gotta say these old models do take a long time to paint, credit to the golden daemon winners who won with old models back in the day.
I’m very pleased with how the model came out using the chaos thousand sons paint scheme as described in the novel as a vivid blue and gold, halfway through painting the model I decided to paint the upper half gold, which makes it look less like an ultramarine robot and more a thousand sons‘.

I was a bit worried about the blue and red clashing but I feel the gold ties the robots and thousand sons together really well.

I’m eager to hear your thoughts on the choice in colours?

[Petay1985]

simply stunning fella a really beautiful addition to the force. the blue is wonderfully vivid, great work. I think the blue compliments the red nicely and, as you say, the gold ties to two together nicely. Also credit where credit's due you sir have made the old model look absolutely stunning.

[Proiteus]

ANOTHER RARE BITZ REQUEST?
I’ve started converting my Prospero Spire Guard and I plan to make them look very regal one detail is adding top knots to the Elysian Drop Trooper helmets so far the best match is the high elf top knots.
But White Lion and Chariots heads are proving difficult to find online, so if anyone has any they can sell or donate for this project please PM me as I would be very grateful?

[Kiro]

Excellent log! How did you manage to get your red so vibrant; what's your recipe?

[macloud]

ANOTHER RARE BITZ REQUEST?
I’ve started converting my Prospero Spire Guard and I plan to make them look very regal one detail is adding top knots to the Elysian Drop Trooper helmets so far the best match is the high elf top knots.
But White Lion and Chariots heads are proving difficult to find online, so if anyone has any they can sell or donate for this project please PM me as I would be very grateful?

have you considered the chaos space marine top knots?

[Fideru]

You have made an amazing army. You should be proud of what you've accomplished.

[dodgyrich]

Wow, I don't know how I missed this thread but I'm glad I stumbled upon it. The stuff looks great, and getting 0 in paint for your army is nothing short of poor sportsmanship post a defeat. It really annoys me to hear that you had to sub your models because they weren't 'GW looking', to me that's completely against what a tournament should be about and what this game has begun to embrace.

The models beautiful, but its how the paint scheme ties it all together so well that makes it great. Please keep it up.

[Proiteus]

ROBOTIC FURY
The 2nd Conqueror robot is now complete, I decided to pose the legs on the 2nd one to make it look different from the 1st. Now all is left is to reequip 1 of my existing dreadnoughts.

A DEFENDER OF TIZCA
With the robots done for the moment it’s time to move onto the 2nd ally of the Thousand Sons the Prospero Spire Guard. As I mentioned before I wanted to create something regal looking but practical and I believe I’ve hit that target with this guy.

I was worried about the top knot at first but it works well with all the other details, however finding that many high elf top knots will prove the larger problem. The ceremonial sword was going to be at the side but it was hard to place on and see due to the gun so I mounted it on the back. Speaking of which they were to be armed with Lasguns then I found out henchmen are armed with a laspistol and close combat weapon and can't be given lasguns so I armed them with boltguns instead, using some bits from an interceptor backpack and the clip of an old bolter to convert the lasgun into an assault rifle.

The robes will be red, the armour gold and the top knot bleached bone however I’m unsure what colour to use for the visor, suggestions?

The squad I’m building at the moment is a long range support squad and includes 3 plasma cannon servitors which I’m converting automated mobile defence turrets for which are controlled remotely. I still have a few more details to add which you will see when the full squad is completed.

6TH EDITION ALLIES AND FORTIFICATIONS = POSSIBILTIES
After seeing this link I’m eager to read the new rules not only will I be able to field basic marines in alongside my psychic thousand sons but will also be able to use the Cataphract robots as something more suitable than paladins such as wolf guard terminators who have acute senses, fearless and combi weapons and are not psychic.

I’m not sure about the idea of taking fortifications in an army, thou I might be tempted to convert some transparent kin-shield walls?

[Taker of skulls]

I would say go for green, just like the lenses on the astartes. It ties them closer in.
Great looking army by the way

ToS

[constant_ones]

Is the old school epic land raider with a pc a stand in for a servator? I was thinking about doing something similar to represent psykers and servators in my own force, a pre-heresy true scale space wolves counts as grey knights, I've gotten lots of inspiration from your log so thanks very much and please keep it coming

[Proiteus]

Is the old school epic land raider with a pc a stand in for a servator? I was thinking about doing something similar to represent psykers and servators in my own force, a pre-heresy true scale space wolves counts as grey knights, I've gotten lots of inspiration from your log so thanks very much and please keep it coming

Why Grey Knights? Wouldn't it be better to go with Space Wolves with some guard or sister of battle/grey knight allies in the upcoming 6th edition?

[constant_ones]

I actually have only played a single game of 40k in... 6 years?! So it's a not a power gaming thing, but before the rumors of allies in 6th, grey knights were the only way I would be able to work up and down a power scale to represent the armies of mankind during the great crusade, ie mixed forces. So terminators are basic marines, power armored guys are scouts, and weedy alcoylites are imperial army troopers. I figured if I was going to all the trouble of basically sculpting a new marine body, itd be nice to include human sized models in the army for a clear reference on how huge the marines are. I did try doing the project with the space wolf codex, using wolf guard and Logan, but the war gear was too individualized for something pre-heresy, in my taste both as a modeler and fluff pov, and it was just an army of super sized marines, which is kind of visually boring, whereas this current army list/project is a little more eccentric, anyways, enough of my thought process, just wanted to compliment you on your great ideas and execution of your models

[Hadriel Caine]

Whilst I really like the build of the guard I think the top knot is a bit OTT. The gun looks great and the head works nicely with the legs. I am willing to be proven wronged, however, as we all know you're a great painter and I'm sure it'll all tie together perfectly.

[Proiteus]

7TH EDITION LOOK TO YOUR BATTLE BROTHERS
I picked the Grey Knight codex for the psychic marines but also for the ability to field the Prospero spire guard alongside them, now with the new 40k allies rules I can actually field standard marines alongside my Scarab Occult Terminators

I’m looking at taking a Librarian, tactical and devastator squad for my allied force, thou I’ll likely to use different codexes to access special units. I’ll use the Space Wolf codex (snarl of hatred) to use the Wolf Guard terminators for their combi-weapons and acute senses when I want to field my Cataphract robots, or maybe the blood angels in order to use Librarian Mephiston who is the best HQ to represent the Primarch "Mini magnus".

I did think of modelling basic marines with a white trim and detailing like the basic troopers in the image above from the art book to make them stand out as the allies. But I decided to stick with the look of the marines I converted for my interceptors as the gold ties all the different factions of the Prospero army together, that and I prefer the Egyptian and mystical feel the gold gives.

However for the moment I want to focus on the Prospero Spire Guard as it is possible allies will be banned from most tournaments and that my terminators (my troop choices) are banned from GW events so I need someone to replace them.

[constant_ones]

Really crazy that a hobby which is all about creativity even has bans. Crazy! On a side note, have you thought of replacing the feet on your spire guard with the boots from imperial guard models? I know it would be a bit pricey, but it might give them a little weightier feeling, corresponding to your marines

[Jericho]

I haven't been able to get my hands on any Elysian heads just yet, but I was hoping to use those same rebreather heads on my PH Word Bearer scouts, as they bear a resemblance to the Mk IV helm. Anyway, how do you think they would fit on a Scout torso? Hopefully not too small

[Proiteus]

Jericho I've seen several conversions on the GW site that use the scout torso and drop trooper helm, it fits quite well.

PROSPERO SPIRE GUARD REINFORCEMENTS
Well I’ve completed my Prospero Spire Guard Heavy Support squad, made up of 8 warrior henchmen with boltguns and 3 Plasma Cannon servitors represented by the A.M.T.s (Automated, Mobile Turrets). This unit is bound to do a lot more damage than my Vindcare assassin who while he can hit, rarely makes kills and pays for his points so he’s being replaced with this squad and my basic Inquisitor (Hidden One Agent).

The turrets were converted based on a tutorial I found on the web for a sentry gun but I mounted it on an epic land raider instead of a heavy weapon platform to better represent its ability to still move after all the guardsmen have been wiped out.

THE COLORS OF THE SPIRE GUARD
While building the support squad I painted up the first Spire Guardsmen and while I’m very happy with the gold and red I’m unsure about the top knot. Hair is still one thing I’ve yet to master, but since this is only the first model I’ll wait and see how the others come out before deciding if I should snap the top knots off or not.

We’ll see as for now I’m eagerly awaiting my store’s midnight release for 6th edition!