Compilation of KoW Army lists and rules

[pangloss666]

Hi - i was thinking of doing a small mantic-inspired ruleset for the American Civil War (with maybe some zombies thrown in). I dont want to re-invent the wheel though, so does anyone know if this has already been done?

[mattjgilbert]

I'm not aware of one

[pangloss666]

cool - my plan was to keep it pretty straightforward: using a modified version of the ECW rules on the forum.
The main issue was with special rules. There should be a 'rebel yell' rule where the Confederates can move an extra D6 at the start of one charge (or something like that), but I cant think of another rule for the Union.

Also I was thinking of adding zombies into the mix and its whether that would suit a mass-ranks-shooting type game or skirmish.

[lord marcus]

union = superior weaponry?

[pangloss666]

That's one idea. Looking at this, there were a variety of rifles used (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rifles_...ican_Civil_War). One idea could be to have rifle muskets as standard with a set rate of fire but have some kind of breech loader as an upgrade that would have a higher RoF.
Or have different nerve scores reflecting veterans versus green troops?

[emperorpenguin]

Of course, but breech loaders were only really used by cavalry and sharpshooter regiments. I suggest you start a thread to discuss this as this sticky isn't really the place

[pangloss666]

ok - will do

[orcsbain]

Hi Guys, I played a game yesterday with the 3.0 ratmen list here and had a thought.
Going on gut feeling (as that seems to be the best way of designing these stats D)

It seems to me that the rifle teams need changing, to me they hit too easily (4+) but also that they should be armour peircing (1).

I dont think this would alter the points as they would hit less often (change them to 5+) but be more likely to wound when they do, due to peircing rule.

Other than that both my self and my opponent thought the list was good and well balanced, though I did think it could also do with some giant rat unit stats, (as I have 3 units of 30 and a unit of 20) also should the ratmen pack leader be inspiring (but only to brutes and giant rats when there are stats for them).

Loving the brutes too, as they are unuseable in WFB but nice and effective in KOW.

Thoughts?

[pangloss666]

i think this first draft is ready to go. can you add it to the list at the start of the thread?

[mattjgilbert]

Hi Guys, I played a game yesterday with the 3.0 ratmen list here and had a thought.
Going on gut feeling (as that seems to be the best way of designing these stats D)

It seems to me that the rifle teams need changing, to me they hit too easily (4+) but also that they should be armour peircing (1).

I dont think this would alter the points as they would hit less often (change them to 5+) but be more likely to wound when they do, due to peircing rule.

Other than that both my self and my opponent thought the list was good and well balanced, though I did think it could also do with some giant rat unit stats, (as I have 3 units of 30 and a unit of 20) also should the ratmen pack leader be inspiring (but only to brutes and giant rats when there are stats for them).

Loving the brutes too, as they are unuseable in WFB but nice and effective in KOW.

Thoughts?

Sounds good - can you reply to the ratman thread itself and then I'll modify the list.

i think this first draft is ready to go. can you add it to the list at the start of the thread?

I'll link to the discussion thread for the list if the file is there?

[pangloss666]

yes, its attached above

[mattjgilbert]

I meant to the separate thread where you were discussing the ideas and the list itself. That way you can keep the first post in that thread up to date with the latest version and I can create a single link to the thread

[pangloss666]

ok - i'll add it to the end of that thread

[mattjgilbert]

Added to list

[pangloss666]

thanks! :-)

[idfreak66]

I'm a huge fan of creating rules and things for games... what kind of custom rules are 'desired' right now? I love Kings of War, but I dislike the magic system and the lack of magic items. Been dying for some campaign rules, too... any interest in any of these?

[mattjgilbert]

There is yes but we know that Mantic themselves will be adding them soon. When the KoW book comes out next year the main rules will still be there but there will also be beefed up advanced rules for magic, campaigns, mass battles etc.

That doesn't stop us coming up with our own ideas in the meantime though

[darkPrince010]

Are you guys planning on making a Warpath Army List/Rules compilation thread too? Or is that planned for after the non-Beta release of Warpath?

[mattjgilbert]

Well once there are enough lists out there, sure we can start one up. In the meantime, PM me any links you find and I'll start one after I come back from holiday.

I suspect at some point we'll have to split the forums up for KoW and Warpath and then each sub-forum can have the appropriate fan-list sticky in it.

[gaarew]

I'm a huge fan of creating rules and things for games... what kind of custom rules are 'desired' right now? I love Kings of War, but I dislike the magic system and the lack of magic items. Been dying for some campaign rules, too... any interest in any of these?

How about a d10 version?