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    Re: Storm of Magic

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    Have we gotten any confirmation on whether this is just an Apocalypse style expansion (albeit with crap loads of cool models) yet?
    Confirmation? No. Hints? Yes.

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    Didn't they just have a boat load of stuff .... including a number of big duel purpose kits.
    Sure they did, but that is no reason to leave them out of an expansion. This post actually makes me sad because it kind of confirms my fears.

    This is one of the "problems" I see with Fantasy expansions. It isn't really a problem but "Dragons for everyone" works with most of the armies, but I don't see Skaven or Tomb Kings recruiting dragons.

    This is kind of the same problem I have with my nids in 40k (except Skaven are a great army.) Some expansions just don't work well with that army.

    I am not "bemoaning" that Skaven won't get a new plastic kit (they are totally rockin' at the moment) but that the expansion won't really offer much for the Children of the Horned Rat.
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    Well I can imagine that the new scenery will be stuff from the BRB like the Magic Portal, Way-stone and etc. I'm looking fwd to the new models sadly I dnt think Empire will get any new mages since they still have that plastic multiple-kit one
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    Re: Storm of Magic

    Quote Originally Posted by Navar View Post
    Sure they did, but that is no reason to leave them out of an expansion.
    Firstly, not making models for the army does not "leave them out" of the expansion... the expansion is the book, the models accompany the expansion.

    Secondly, it seems a lot of the models will be available to most or even all armies, so Skaven will probably be able to field a Chimera, Manticore, whatever.

    And thirdly, the fact that they've had loads of models recently is a perfectly good reason for not making any Skaven-specific stuff this time around - GW have limited resources, so releasing a 4th wave of Skaven models in the space of 18 months is likely to be a low priority.

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    Can't wait to get my hands on that Jabberslythe.

    - GW have limited resources, so releasing a 4th wave of Skaven models in the space of 18 months is likely to be a low priority.
    Yeah they probably give the skaven players a chance to work themselves out of debt for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Navar View Post
    I am not "bemoaning" that Skaven won't get a new plastic kit (they are totally rockin' at the moment) but that the expansion won't really offer much for the Children of the Horned Rat.
    Well, in all honesty, we do not know anything for sure yet, so why worry? Besides, it's not like the Skaven need monsters or wizard minis (except, like somebody said, a decent Grey Seer on foot), do they? So maybe, miniature-wise, this expansion will not offer too much to the Skaven. But rules-wise they will get as much as everybody else if not more. "Destructive magic" has always been one of the identifying features of the Skaven.
    Anyway, don't lose hope just yet. Wait a bit. Like a couple of months

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    Re: Storm of Magic

    Quote Originally Posted by Scelerat View Post
    Well, in all honesty, we do not know anything for sure yet, so why worry? Besides, it's not like the Skaven need monsters or wizard minis (except, like somebody said, a decent Grey Seer on foot), do they?
    They don't even really need that - anyone who builds the Plague Furnace will have a spare plastic Grey Seer, should be plenty knocking around.

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    Re: Storm of Magic

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    Confirmation? No. Hints? Yes.
    That's good enough for me.

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    They don't even really need that - anyone who builds the Plague Furnace will have a spare plastic Grey Seer, should be plenty knocking around.
    He's actually quite a pain to turn into a viable "on-foot" option. His feet aren't flat, and his spreadeagled pose makes him very difficult to rank up, so you end up having to base him on something with significant height (so as to accommodate his footing and to make sure his arms will be above the heads of his unit-mates).

    The Plague Priest in the Bell/Furnace kit makes a great on-foot model right out of the box, but the Grey Seer requires some time and work.

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    Re: Storm of Magic

    Why are those who are less keen about this expansion "whiners or nay-sayers" and those that are keen "fanboys?"

    Personally I am not 100% convinced I will buy, nor play, the expansion based on "use BIG monsters and BIG spells" rumour/ GW email. However this does not mean that when the book actually comes out I won't be tempted nor there may be other things in there that I am interested by in the book.

    It also does not mean that I despair at this release. On the contrary I am pleased they have released this as I know a lot of folk will love these type of games, or models and if it sells well GW might release another expansion, say man of war like or a more smaller scale game/ campaign based book.
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    Re: Storm of Magic

    Quote Originally Posted by selone View Post
    Why are those who are less keen about this expansion "whiners or nay-sayers" and those that are keen "fanboys?"

    Personally I am not 100% convinced I will buy, nor play, the expansion based on "use BIG monsters and BIG spells" rumour/ GW email. However this does not mean that when the book actually comes out I won't be tempted nor there may be other things in there I am interested in the book.

    It also does not mean that I despair at this release. On the contrary I am pleased they have released this as I know a lot of folk will love these type of games, or models and if it sells well GW might release another expansion, say man of war like or a more smaller scale game/ campaign based book.
    My sentiments are quite similar, I very much welcome the possibility of new terrain, the rest is rather lost on me, I'm not a prolific user of beast mages, nor do I own an army that has lots of monsters that either have no models or are due a new model.

    I also can't envisage that I will particularly enjoy playing a version of warhammer where magic is even more powerful or central to the game than it is now, but I guess other folks will, and the fact that they have me excited about the "terrain" part of the release lends credence to the idea that this release will appeal to a broad spectrum of different players.
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    I heard something about a new resin model of Nagash, like one of the new Super-Magician one´s to play in the "Apocalipse" battles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GodlessM View Post
    Have we gotten any confirmation on whether this is just an Apocalypse style expansion (albeit with crap loads of cool models) yet?
    What more could it be?
    Of all the threads in all the forums in all the world you had to post into this one.

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    Presumably the beastie in the first picture is an Abyssal Terror as the previous versions of that model (back when it was called a Winged Nightmare) are the only ones I can recall that have had tusks growing out of the corners of its mouth like that. Also it has that bat-like snout. The second looks very much like the old Manticore (that is to say, it looks rubbish ).
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    Re: Storm of Magic

    Quote Originally Posted by Avian View Post
    Presumably the beastie in the first picture is an Abyssal Terror as the previous versions of that model (back when it was called a Winged Nightmare) are the only ones I can recall that have had tusks growing out of the corners of its mouth like that.
    Good catch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Blaine View Post
    What more could it be?
    I had the impression that this was a sort of Warmachine/ Hordes in the old world. Wizards are your warcasters/warlocks and monsters are your beasts/warjacks.

    (I don't play Warmachine/hordes so I might not understand it completely, sorry.)

    It would be cool if you could scale it down (instead of up a la "Fantasy Apocalypse"). Meaning each side could have a wizard and just a handful of monsters.

    Disclaimer: this is just me guessing here. I have no inside information.

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    Oh wow..that manticore is horrendous...

    I ordered this:

    http://botwt.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/manticore.jpg

    I doubt the new GW manticore would be as bad as their original one but still, even from that limited small pic, it doesn't look very appealing...

    the horned dragon thing on the other hand looks ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarFyreXXX View Post
    Oh wow..that manticore is horrendous...

    I ordered this:

    http://botwt.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/manticore.jpg

    I doubt the new GW manticore would be as bad as their original one but still, even from that limited small pic, it doesn't look very appealing...

    the horned dragon thing on the other hand looks ok.

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    Oh, now that is a bit tasty! Yes, the sneak peek doesn't really look great, but I'll wait and see. There's a superb Chimera model out there somewhere (can't remember who makes it) but it costs £80, which is a bit painful.

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    The Banebeast one no? It's a great sculpt, but at the same time I don't like it, I can't really explain why. When I look at it, dunno, I find it kindda boring, like someone spent hours making superaccurate parts, then glued them together. By comparison, the manticore/lamassu for Raging Heroes (the one in Starfyre's link) is not as perfect when you consider the skills put in the sculpt, but it feels epic, there's something going on with it; the pose plays a big part, but not only; I just can't explain myself very well I guess.

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    Yes, i got it. Maelstrom games. It's sculpted by former FW monster guru, Daniel Cockersell (war mammoth, all the greater demons)...he left FW some years ago and moved to New Zealand to work at Weta (film effects, etc)... from what I read online, he still does contract work and thus finished the lord of change for forgeworld and now did that chimaera..

    here is the chimera as painted by Ben Komets (multi slayer sword winner - whiterabbit on coolminiornot.com):

    http://banelegions.maelstromgames.co...ted_web_01.png

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