Toms Youtube Battle Reports

[MOMUS]

Good to see some WE reports, looking forward to the summary.

Why were all the opponents age 10 and below?

[Lord Dan]

Good reports are usual, though admittedly the WE list looks...I dunno, boring? Are you enjoying them as much as your DE?

[tmarichards]

For the moment, I'm enjoying them more

I think part of that is that a change is as good as a rest, and after 400 odd games with the Dark Elves I'm just burnt out on them.

[Akkaryn]

Watching those reports has convinced me to start an Welf army. I've been after a shooty shooty army for a while, and while Chaos Dwarfs are shooty shooty, they are very static and quite dull to play (and play against I'd imagine)

Loving the fact that Wood Elves take a little bit more thought too, for your first tournament I think you did rather well. Although the scenarios were a little excessive. If you'd have got either of the vamp armies in the any double was a miscast game it'd have been a completely different story.

[Rosstifer]

Y'know, I find it a little odd they felt a need to put in 2 scenarios screwing over shooting, when no one bar the Wood Elves needs/uses ballistics shooting to stay competitive in 8th

It's not like Combat armies really need a buff is it?

[tmarichards]

Watching those reports has convinced me to start an Welf army. I've been after a shooty shooty army for a while, and while Chaos Dwarfs are shooty shooty, they are very static and quite dull to play (and play against I'd imagine)

Loving the fact that Wood Elves take a little bit more thought too, for your first tournament I think you did rather well. Although the scenarios were a little excessive. If you'd have got either of the vamp armies in the any double was a miscast game it'd have been a completely different story.

Yeah then again, I don't think I've ever been renowned as being very lucky... must've upset a gypsy in a previous life

Go for it with the Wood Elves! I'm really enjoying them so far, they're not a power army but I don't think they're as bad as a lot of the internet wisdom says so. I think the problem is more that you get pigeonholed into a couple of builds due there only being a handful of competitive options, and once you start limiting the build you will of course get bad match-ups- having said that, I think there are still some pretty good match-ups (Elves on any kind, daemons without a greater daemon). Although, it is still an auto-loss if I have to play a Bloodthirster, unless he's terrible and lands in in front of my army :/

Y'know, I find it a little odd they felt a need to put in 2 scenarios screwing over shooting, when no one bar the Wood Elves needs/uses ballistics shooting to stay competitive in 8th

It's not like Combat armies really need a buff is it?

Agreed. The TO, Mark Borland, is in fact the best Wood Elf player in the UK- I mentioned I felt Wood Elves got a bit hard done by, and he said he didn't want people to be able to say he gave them an easy time of it... I think he went a little overboard though :/

[Akkaryn]

I personally just want to play them to use the Lord as alter kindred with the bow that lets him shoot as many times as he has attacks with the arrows that don't allow saves. It's a lot of points for only 5 shots but I really like the concept.

[tmarichards]

Ahhh, the LorenLord... I've been running him a bit, but not as an Alter Kindred (just so that he can be the army general and so that he can join units).

[Rosstifer]

I also love how you played Dark Elves with almost everything you say is mediocre in the Dark Elf army in her list and proved it by smashing them. Well. You also outplayed her massively, but you know what I mean :P

[tmarichards]

Yup

It does also always help when you play someone and you know their army better than they do

[MOMUS]

Would you say using xbowmen as a bunker is a really bad idea, or workable?

[vcassano]

Thanks for the reports; excellent as always (and grumpy!). Any ETA on a summary video or when more game will be played?

Also, are you going to Throne of Skulls or Gathering of Might?

[tmarichards]

Would you say using xbowmen as a bunker is a really bad idea, or workable?

I think it's workable, but it has a few problems.

First up, if the sorceress is your general, then you can't get the Standard of Discipline boost, which isn't that big of a deal but it's certainly worth bearing in mind. Of course, if she's not the general, that's less of a problem.

Second is that for the xbows to be worth taking, they need to shooting just about every turn, which means they're going to be within 24" of the enemy- personally, I think this is a bit too close for a 300pt model who is often the general.

There's really no need for her to be this close- assuming you're running any lore but Dark or Death, all the spells are fairly long ranged, or have boosted versions for a longer range. So, she can function just as well from a board edge bunker as she can from a xbow unit, and is much safer and has the Discipline buff in the warrior unit.

Another thing that swings it for me is that I really have very little respect for units of xbows unless you run huge amounts of them (40 or so) because they just never, ever do anything unless you take huge numbers of them- and if you want to invest those points into shooting then shades do everything they do better. So, as a result, I usually only have a small unit of them which is not suitable for a bunker.

[brother_maynard]

Good answer tom, very insightful. looking forward to your continuing adventures!

[tmarichards]

Thanks for the reports; excellent as always (and grumpy!). Any ETA on a summary video or when more game will be played?

Also, are you going to Throne of Skulls or Gathering of Might?

I don't think I'm going to do a summary video, mainly because I can't really be bothered...

I've got another 1 day event next weekend (22nd), so the next reports should be up a couple of days after that.

I really want to Throne, and AGoM is a possibility, but I'm not really a fan of low point filth fests... might have to roll the DE out, as nobody does it quite as well as them

[tmarichards]

Finally gotten organised enough to start doing tournament previews again, first post updated with Brighton Warlords preview

[TsukeFox]

Good luck-
So on the ruling for ng fantantics was it also resolved that "open terrain" does not kill them-?

You know it has been quiet a while since you faced Skaven-

[tmarichards]

No, I am not due to play Skaven. Never, ever, ever.

[Djekar]

I think that the ... slight(?) ... favoritism towards beastmen is my biggest beef with comp. Good luck good sir - and I'm predicting at least 1 skaven battle, followed by the hated VC game.

You could say I'm a pessimist.

[tmarichards]

Well given that I am a relentless optimist myself I find that just disgusting...

But yeah, I've got Tomb Kings first up but then I reckon I play Lizards, Skaven and Skaven.

I hate Skaven.