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    I like the Caos Dwarf scheme. I was expecting red, since that's kinda the default color, but the blue stands out nicely. Curse your skills though, since lately I've been compelled to skim through the Chaos Dwarf offerings on ebay. You're going to cost me money.

    That aside the hawk riders look great as a group. I agree with your assessment of the newest sculpt. It's a touch awkward. It's a pity you couldn't have turned the head forward so it looks like she's looking at the enemy.

    Great work still,

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    That DE corsair model is one of my favorites from GW. I used to have one but sold it away along with my druchii model, much to my regret. Love what you've done with him.

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    Congratulations on the trophy, well deserved. The wood elves look great and very dynamic. It would not occur to me as an army for models from other armies but they fit painted up, although the head might be a bit over the top. But it wwould have been a shame to ruin a nice sculpt so great job there. Also it would be plausible for at least a few Nagarythe to have stayed as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Muninn View Post
    I like the Caos Dwarf scheme. I was expecting red, since that's kinda the default color, but the blue stands out nicely. Curse your skills though, since lately I've been compelled to skim through the Chaos Dwarf offerings on ebay. You're going to cost me money.

    That aside the hawk riders look great as a group. I agree with your assessment of the newest sculpt. It's a touch awkward. It's a pity you couldn't have turned the head forward so it looks like she's looking at the enemy.

    Great work still,

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    Thanks! The blue is both kind of the "standard" regular dwarf colour, which I tihnk puts a nice spin on it, and also gives it a bit of a "Swedish" touch, since I wanted them to have a snow-theme to heighten the contrasts as elements of fire will inevitably turn up in the army. I also wanted a spot colour that would stand out. The thing that'd be even better would be bright purple!

    Mohahaha, why resist? I shudder to think at the volumes of FW stuff I've got, alot of it second-hand wares...

    Yeah, in hindsight I probably should've posed the warhawk riders before assembly... anyway, at least they're done!

    Quote Originally Posted by juicytomatoes View Post
    That DE corsair model is one of my favorites from GW. I used to have one but sold it away along with my druchii model, much to my regret. Love what you've done with him.
    Thanks! Def. one of my favorites, and probably one of Chris Fitzpatrick's best. I'm quite fond of the DE models as alternatives for the WE, and overall I think they work better than the HE ones. They're bit more gritty and down-to-earth. I think the assassins could make decent waywatchers for example.

    Quote Originally Posted by Little Joe View Post
    Congratulations on the trophy, well deserved. The wood elves look great and very dynamic. It would not occur to me as an army for models from other armies but they fit painted up, although the head might be a bit over the top. But it wwould have been a shame to ruin a nice sculpt so great job there. Also it would be plausible for at least a few Nagarythe to have stayed as well.
    Thank you! I take it you mean the severed head? I think it works because it's a human head ("Why hello there, Mr. Huntsman!"). Not sure if it's apparent in the picture but it's also a bit darker than the elf skintone in order to differentiate it.

    Just to show I'm actually working on something, here's an ongoing basecoating of the Toad Dragon:

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    Re: The Plog of Jericho

    Hey, that toad dragon is looking mighty fine from the side. I like that much better than the pictures on FW's website. Looking forward to seeing more of that beast!

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    I love the colour scheme you chose for the Chaos Dwarfs: painting them like regular Dwarfs really seems to just underline the tragedy and vileness of their evil.

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    Can't wait to see the toad dragon finished!

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    Excellet stuff here! Can't wait to see those weathering effects you mentioned. I have not tried anything like that. On a side note I know we both played WE, and I am personnally really enjoying playing the Chaos Dwarves. Its a good feeling having T4, armor, and getting to lay down those templates...

    I have a friend we recent painted up his Toad dragon. Here is a link to a photo at a recent tourney we had.
    http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...type=1&theater
    I think his turned out pretty good. Let me know if you can't see the photo. Its an open facebook group so it should work. But if not I can put the original up on Photobucket.

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    So THIS is where you are hiding out. I visit the random section of the plogs forum way too seldom it seems.

    Incredible collection of miniatures, especially love the Wood Elves. Oh, and especially especially that DE corsair, just so happens to be one my all time favourite sculpts as well, and you really did it justice. If for nothing else, GW should put out a new WE army book for the sake of your army.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sigur View Post
    Hey, that toad dragon is looking mighty fine from the side. I like that much better than the pictures on FW's website. Looking forward to seeing more of that beast!
    Thanks - I'm not sure what to think of the FW paintjob and pictures either TBH. It's got some nice effects, like around the eyes and the mouth, but the airbrush feels a bit... uninspired. I think almost each and every one of these I've seen has been airbrushed, whereas I'm doing mine with brushes. Don't know if I'll go for stripes or anything yet, or just stick with green all over. It's pretty hard to reach in places...

    Quote Originally Posted by precinctomega View Post
    I love the colour scheme you chose for the Chaos Dwarfs: painting them like regular Dwarfs really seems to just underline the tragedy and vileness of their evil.

    R.
    Thank you! I'm quite fond of some of the red ones I've seen around the net - I think they could work with red and orange highlights too, but I seem unable to let go of my "realistical" paintjob style. Hopefully it also makes things a bit easier if I ever decide to add some stuff and field them as regular dwarves in the future. But more than anything I try to use a "nordic" choice of colours, which aren't so fantastical and more brown/military green. Sort of like Skyrim now that I think about it. If I ever do Empire they're gonna be red just like the danes though... Check out the pic below!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jormi_Boced View Post
    Can't wait to see the toad dragon finished!
    Thanks! That goes for me too. ;-)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ender Shadowkin View Post
    Excellet stuff here! Can't wait to see those weathering effects you mentioned. I have not tried anything like that. On a side note I know we both played WE, and I am personnally really enjoying playing the Chaos Dwarves. Its a good feeling having T4, armor, and getting to lay down those templates...

    I have a friend we recent painted up his Toad dragon. Here is a link to a photo at a recent tourney we had.
    http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...type=1&theater
    I think his turned out pretty good. Let me know if you can't see the photo. Its an open facebook group so it should work. But if not I can put the original up on Photobucket.
    That one's sweet! Does he have any close-ups of it?

    I can't seem to find any examples of "snow weathering" online, so it's anybody's guess how it'll turn out. I'm expecting the package from maelstrom this week, at which point I'll see about finishing the test model. The CD's will probably feel like a fresh gust of wind considering my usual WE and Beastmen...

    Quote Originally Posted by BeatTheBeat View Post
    So THIS is where you are hiding out. I visit the random section of the plogs forum way too seldom it seems.

    Incredible collection of miniatures, especially love the Wood Elves. Oh, and especially especially that DE corsair, just so happens to be one my all time favourite sculpts as well, and you really did it justice. If for nothing else, GW should put out a new WE army book for the sake of your army.

    Subbed!

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    Random is the byword of all project logs! They start out organized, only to decay into a never-ending spiral of self-deceit ("Yeah, I'll paint that up in no time at all!") and madness ("Wonder how much stuff I've really got? And how much I spent on it?") of painting and collecting more or less whatever you feel like each year.

    Thanks for the praise! I'm hoping they'll give me a ring so I can tell them what I think of their "inspiration-driven-design-process" if it means WE don't get worked on ASAP! And their arbitrary rules system too. Still can't help but love Warhammer, even though she's a harsh mistress.

    Anyway, not much to report on the Toad Dragon. Just drybrushed a couple of highlights on the mouth. Gonna paint the stones she's standing on and then drybrush the skin before I start working on the funky stuff. Also my mom turned 50 and we all had a party in the sun. Also, Diablo 3. So if I ever make a dwarf army out of this I need to give them warrior monks instead of slayers.

    Ever wondered what a horde of evil faceless stunties looks like BTW?



    Well, now you know.

    I love the concept for these little fellas! Having their horns sawn off and being encased in sealed armour. That's grim. And they look so disciplined, you can almost hear the Champion shouting orders and see them moving as one like something out of a fantasy flick - "READY ARMS! BRACE SHIELDS!" Unstoppable, unbreakable. Gotta love 'em. Or fear them as they bear down upon your undisciplined rabble of lizards, artillery falling alla round your troops... Yeah, I think grim, evil dwarves from the land of ice & snow works pretty well.

    A bit of a pain to rank up, but there's 45 of them, not counting characters. Also, a unit of Fireglaives:



    Now, where to find this?



    It's an old miniature from the D&D Chainmail game. I know they've got some new ones in that awful bendable plastic, but this one's nicer. A shame there's not like... 25 of them. But just one would be nice too.

    Also this:

    That's got "Great Concept!" written all over it. Oh wait, seems their website is back up...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Satan View Post
    Now, where to find this?



    It's an old miniature from the D&D Chainmail game. I know they've got some new ones in that awful bendable plastic, but this one's nicer. A shame there's not like... 25 of them. But just one would be nice too.
    You know, my local game store has a great big box of unsold Chainmail minis. It's been a while since I've looked, but I'll swing by to check later today. Failing that, the actual order number of the box was "WOC88730 Azer Trooper" which could possibly help you find it online. I also did a little research, & it looks like it was released in the 3rd wave of Chainmail minis around 2001, and only ever sold as a blister, so you won't find it in box sets.

    Hope this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Muninn View Post
    You know, my local game store has a great big box of unsold Chainmail minis. It's been a while since I've looked, but I'll swing by to check later today. Failing that, the actual order number of the box was "WOC88730 Azer Trooper" which could possibly help you find it online. I also did a little research, & it looks like it was released in the 3rd wave of Chainmail minis around 2001, and only ever sold as a blister, so you won't find it in box sets.

    Hope this helps.

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    Hey, now THAT would be sweet! Get me one if they're cheap-ish and I'll take it off your hands!

    Explains why I never saw it before - I only think we ever got the first wave in the small town where I lived back then. Also - miniature gaming has really declined since then. Back in the day you could find GW products across multiple stores here, but I tihnk they managed to nip that in the bud, because eventually people stopped carrying them and specialised miniature stores closed down.

    For example: I used to live in the 30th biggest city in the country and I think we had 2 stores selling multiple miniature games, and then a specialised store doing the same. They all closed down, and toy stores stopped selling the stuff and interest waned. Nowadays not even the 8th largest city in the country can support a single games store...
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    Hey, now THAT would be sweet! Get me one if they're cheap-ish and I'll take it off your hands!

    Explains why I never saw it before - I only think we ever got the first wave in the small town where I lived back then. Also - miniature gaming has really declined since then. Back in the day you could find GW products across multiple stores here, but I tihnk they managed to nip that in the bud, because eventually people stopped carrying them and specialised miniature stores closed down.

    For example: I used to live in the 30th biggest city in the country and I think we had 2 stores selling multiple miniature games, and then a specialised store doing the same. They all closed down, and toy stores stopped selling the stuff and interest waned. Nowadays not even the 8th largest city in the country can support a single games store...
    I went & looked, but no luck. Turns out the store's stock consists of stuff that the distributor couldn't get anyone else to buy. Mostly elves, dwarves, & gnolls. Not bad minis, but not what you're looking for.

    Which country is that? Denmark or Sweden? My family is actually from Denmark, although they left like 90+ years ago (still have the name though).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Muninn View Post
    I went & looked, but no luck. Turns out the store's stock consists of stuff that the distributor couldn't get anyone else to buy. Mostly elves, dwarves, & gnolls. Not bad minis, but not what you're looking for.

    Which country is that? Denmark or Sweden? My family is actually from Denmark, although they left like 90+ years ago (still have the name though).

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    Thanks for the effort though - I really appreciate it!

    Sweden. Last I heard business in Copenhagen was thriving (I commute there daily), but I've never bought anything there (went to the GW store once, it was a cramped space in a cellar) since the prices across the bridge drop by 20% when you take the currency into account.

    You should learn Danish Muninn! If you don't know it already I can promise you it'll make for an entertaining challenge.

    Anyway, the package from Maelstrom arrived and I set about fixing the test model.

    For the base I applied a vallejo Snow & Foam solution, and then I just dipped it into a pot of GF9 Snow flock. I think the base needs to use a bright or possibly blue base colour for the effect to look like the thick snow I wanted it t be, but nonetheless it turned out OK. For the other modls there'll be something sticking out to break the monotomy, like flock or tufts or rocks, etc.

    The thing I wanted to get some feedback on was the white weathering powders though - I read the tips on FWs site which suggested using white spirits for them, but white spirits for me translates into "lacknafta" which is commonly used to strip miniatures of paint... Also tried diluting them with water but that only seemed to turn them into white paint, basically.

    So, here's what I did (and I would very much like you to tell me what I should've done!):

    1. Liberally applied the white weathering powder using a dry brush to simulate the effect of falling snow. Looked great, maybe a bit on the heavy side with the effects, but cool nonetheless.

    2. Gave the miniature a coat of matte varnish. This seemed to dissolve or blow away something like 75-80% of the weathering powder. Now he looks like a regular guy - some of the weathering powder might've left a streak in his beard or on his back, but the effect on the shield is basically gone. Check it out:









    I think I actually want him to have a heavier snow coating on the mail skirts, shoulders and maybe a bit on the head, but how to achieve this without the weathering powder evaporating or just ending up as streaks of wet paint?
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    Had a second go at the weathering powder, this time first applying blobs of water and then sprinkling blobs of it down from above.

    On his back this became a couple of big streaks as I tried manipulating it, but it gave a nice powdery effect on the shield. As I applied the varnish though it vanished completely, on the plus side it also got rid of the streaks on his back.

    Some of the thicker blobs, around his hips and feet remain and these show the effect I wanted - not thick snow, but powdery, like you'd get on your body in a snow storm.

    I'm pleased with him now in any case and I think to have any more on him might've been overdoing it anyway, so this is how he'll stay. Tips on working with the powders would be greatly appreciated!





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    Quote Originally Posted by Satan View Post
    You should learn Danish Muninn! If you don't know it already I can promise you it'll make for an entertaining challenge.
    I speak a little German, but the only Scandanavian language that my family has held on to is "Uff Da."

    I like the blood in the snow. I'm not sure if it's purposeful or incidental, but I appreciate how some of the bloody snow looks pinkish, like how a color seeps into a snow cone. Adds some credence to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Muninn View Post
    I speak a little German, but the only Scandanavian language that my family has held on to is "Uff Da."

    I like the blood in the snow. I'm not sure if it's purposeful or incidental, but I appreciate how some of the bloody snow looks pinkish, like how a color seeps into a snow cone. Adds some credence to me.

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    Uff da? What's it supposed to mean?

    Yup! Just the effect I wanted!

    A WIP of the toad dragon skin today. Not sure if I should do the rest of the skin and details and then dip it.

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    Uff da? What's it supposed to mean?
    It's Norwegian I think, it's a general exclamation that can be used for anything from "Sorry to hear that" to "what the hell."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Muninn View Post
    It's Norwegian I think, it's a general exclamation that can be used for anything from "Sorry to hear that" to "what the hell."

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    Aaaaah! You're thinking of "Usch Då!". We say that in Sweden. Not sure if they use the expression in Norway as well, but could very well be. Generally we use it in the former context, but could work for the second one too.
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    I opted for finishing the basing before proceeding with the rest of the miniature. Her skin is all done, but I'm on the fence about whether I should drybrush the scaled areas in a brighter shade maybe.

    Will also paint the grass flock in yellow and bleached bone. Enough stuff on the base already or do you guys think it needs more?







    Would've liked to add a corpse or domething in there but I don't have anything ATM sadly...
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