View Poll Results: What is your overall experience of the new Finecast material?

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  • Positive: My models were well cast/the material is well detailed and nice to work with.

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  • Neutral: I have no strong feelings either way.

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    Re: Official WarSeer Finecast Poll.

    Just got a replacement of Serez through, very nice sculpt this time, only one really tiny bubble on the very bottom of the eldar heads spinal column remains, rest is straight where it should be and bubble free.
    However, on the back of his abdomen there is a small weird darkish blemish near the power sphere seems almost like a tiny speck of dirt got into the mixture as it went into the mould.
    Still it's only a discolouration (as far as I can tell) so won't be noticeable after painting.
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    Re: Official WarSeer Finecast Poll.

    I got my first ever flawless finecast model today, a Vargard Obyron, not a bubble on it anywhere, the staff was straight as a die, and very little in the way of (easily removable) flash and mould lines. Honestly if all FC models were like this I wouldn't have any worry about buying them.

    Also got a Nemesor Zahndrek who was not quite so flawless, twisted staff, lots of bubbles and a slight mis-mold on his chest symbol that is fortunately hidden by his right arm, all in all pretty fixable although it took me almost an hour to get it ready for priming.

    Something else I noticed with this batch of finecast, it's quite paint-resistant, even after soaking and brushing in warm soapy water to remove any lubricant and thoroughly dried the paint still ran off most of the flat surfaces, and I was using Imperial Primer from the technical range which has so far not failed me on any plastic or metal.
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    Re: Official WarSeer Finecast Poll.

    Oh happy days. One hour to fix a mini and then not being able to paint it, sounds like a good bunch of "fun".
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    Re: Official WarSeer Finecast Poll.

    Sent back every single one of the Szeras models they'd sent me to sell. Major defects on every single one. Zandrek and Obyron however were brilliant. No idea how they could have made such good casts with those two and not with the other one.

    It wasnt even small bubbles and stuff, the surface of the models was pitted to hell.

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    Re: Official WarSeer Finecast Poll.

    Eeeek. There seems to be a view that FC was (is) improving - going from a few random posts in other threads - does this appear to be true, or is there some sort of "if we say it enough, maybe it will happen" movement forming?
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    Re: Official WarSeer Finecast Poll.

    Quote Originally Posted by shelfunit. View Post
    Eeeek. There seems to be a view that FC was (is) improving - going from a few random posts in other threads - does this appear to be true, or is there some sort of "if we say it enough, maybe it will happen" movement forming?
    It has been argued that we cannot determine how big the proportion of flawed casts to good casts are (I consider Wayland's findings reasonably scientific, but some people won't accept them), so I would say it's equally impossible to state things are getting better with any certainty.
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    Re: Official WarSeer Finecast Poll.

    We saw far fewer outright "Fail"casts in the last Empire release - while there were still problems, they weren't as pronounced or beyond hope as some of the older models (and by "older models" I mean "Arjac Rockfist" and "Isabella von Carstein"). The 3 new Finecast Necrons (no one's bought the overpriced upgrade kits yet? Surprise, surprise...) have been getting mixed reviews - Obyron and Zahndrekh are typically good from what I've heard, while Szeras has more problems (which doesn't surprise me at all).

    Are they getting better? Maybe - then again, we may be having more luck with this round. I haven't seen any of them in person yet, but I wouldn't expect as high a failure rate on a Necron model. The worst offenders seem to be the hyper-detailed models (the more intricate Szeras having more reported issues than the other two would support this hypothesis, if true) and Necrons tend to be rather plain in comparison to several other armies.
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    Re: Official WarSeer Finecast Poll.

    Note that my issues with Szeras had nothing to do with the normal bubbles damaging the detail, just that the body shell was covered in pockmarks. Like the resin hadnt cured properly.

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    Re: Official WarSeer Finecast Poll.

    Began painting my serez using technical imperial primer, and had the same problem as spiney norman, in that certain parts of the resin seemed VERY paint ressistant.
    The paint just slicked right off, strangely this was only on certain parts-
    -all of the abdomen and rear legs, splotches of the rear shoulder casing and tips of the weapon rod so far.
    It's quite irritating and has taken me 1 hour to get the bits primed Iv'e done at the moment.
    What's really annoying is now I seem to be getting faults with the darned things I cant even see or know about until Iv'e done cleaning and assembling.

    Le sigh.

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    2 bubbles that were just under the surface came through during painting too, one on the very rear edge of the abdomen carapace and another on the top of his hood carapace.
    I'm thankfull they were very small and soon fixed.
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    Re: Official WarSeer Finecast Poll.

    In short, no. It's not improving, nor has it improved significantly overall since launch. Even models that should have more care put into them (such as the Forgeworld Event-only Skinwolf, and those new Terminators, never mind the standard GW range) are being sent out substandard.
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    Re: Official WarSeer Finecast Poll.

    I took a visit at my FLGS to check out the new Necron releases. Vargard Obyron and Illuminor Zseras weren't bad, but Nemesor Zahndrekh caught my eye in a good way. It is easily the best Finecast model to reach my hands so far.

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    This is the first Finecast model that I could field without a drop of Liquid Green Stuff, but my perfectionism forces me to fix a small bubble on his right wrist and smoothen some rough areas on cloak edges.

    I would be very happy if all Finecast models were of this quality. However, while the overall variance of quality remains as high as we have seen, I am disappointed in Finecast as a whole.
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    Re: Official WarSeer Finecast Poll.

    Looks pretty good to me.
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    Whats that background for your picture? Looks good. So far i am 5 for 5 no finecast problems

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    Re: Official WarSeer Finecast Poll.

    Nice buy, jullevi - lucky you!

    I still haven't seen the new Necron Finecast in person - either the LGS sold out right away or they didn't order any. Sad, because I would have bought all 3 models on the spot if they were at least the quality of jullevi's Zahndrekh *nod*
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    Re: Official WarSeer Finecast Poll.

    Quote Originally Posted by jullevi View Post
    I took a visit at my FLGS to check out the new Necron releases. Vargard Obyron and Illuminor Zseras weren't bad, but Nemesor Zahndrekh caught my eye in a good way. It is easily the best Finecast model to reach my hands so far.

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    This is the first Finecast model that I could field without a drop of Liquid Green Stuff, but my perfectionism forces me to fix a small bubble on his right wrist and smoothen some rough areas on cloak edges.

    I would be very happy if all Finecast models were of this quality. However, while the overall variance of quality remains as high as we have seen, I am disappointed in Finecast as a whole.
    Looks very good, much better than mine, another issue I forgot to mention was that the end of the left arm was not cast at all (the piece that forms the base of the wrist that the left hand glues on to) so my left hand is just stuck straight on to the arm with no wrist piece, I actually hadn't noticed it until you posted your pic.

    It looks like you've not quite assembled it correctly at the right elbow joint or it may be a fault with the model not sure.
    EDIT; it might just be down to the fact that you've preassembled it with blue tac, please ignore
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    Re: Official WarSeer Finecast Poll.

    jullevi - that looks like a great cast but if you've got rough areas and a small bubble that's not perfectionism, that's still a miscast. It's still a great looking cast but it's not perfect.
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    Re: Official WarSeer Finecast Poll.

    That would be good enough for me, too. Nice.
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    Re: Official WarSeer Finecast Poll.

    So I bought all of the necron characters at once and other than Vargard Obyron (which I would say was "acceptable" as the only issues were a bent weapon with areas of detail that aren't defined and are a little obscured) the rest of them were utter cack. Particularly Trazyn whose hood was just a big blob of finecrap, and szeras who is absolutely covered in pock marks and air bubbles.

    So still no improvement from initial release.

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    Re: Official WarSeer Finecast Poll.

    Quote Originally Posted by lethlis View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by loveless View Post
    Nice buy, jullevi - lucky you!
    That summarizes the Finecast issue nicely. I shouldn't have to feel lucky to receive a fine cast (pun intended), high quality should be the standard.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spiney Norman View Post
    Looks very good, much better than mine, another issue I forgot to mention was that the end of the left arm was not cast at all (the piece that forms the base of the wrist that the left hand glues on to) so my left hand is just stuck straight on to the arm with no wrist piece, I actually hadn't noticed it until you posted your pic.
    The wrist piece isn't complete in my model either. Part of it is missing, but not due to bubble. It must be an issue with mold.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonahmaul View Post
    jullevi - that looks like a great cast but if you've got rough areas and a small bubble that's not perfectionism, that's still a miscast. It's still a great looking cast but it's not perfect.
    Hence I did not claim it was perfect. It's the best Finecast model to reach my hands (out of 6) and the first one that I am actually happy with. I posted this model because some people (myself included) want to see pictures of good quality casts. Too many talk about receiving perfect casts but provide no evidence at all.
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    Re: Official WarSeer Finecast Poll.

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