View Poll Results: What is your overall experience of the new Finecast material?

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  • Positive: My models were well cast/the material is well detailed and nice to work with.

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  • Neutral: I have no strong feelings either way.

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    Re: Official WarSeer Finecast Poll.

    Took me looking at 3 different Games Day minis to find a Captain Ponytail without a screwed-up bolter muzzle. Mine's still sealed (not sure if I actually want Captain Ponytail, but figured better to give myself the option than try and pull it off of eBay later), so I'm not sure if the back-side of him has any bubbles or anything, but I don't see any obvious errors.

    Of course, that seems to matter little, given that while I was inspecting the pile of minis, 3 or 4 others came up and just blindly grabbed a mini off of the pile. Adults, too, who many on here would probably say "should know better" - ah well, though. Generally the model quality was decent, but there were still some flaws, primarily in the bolter.

    I wandered around and inspected a few of the other Finecast blister racks. For the most part they were decent - saw some Krells with bendy axes and one where the axe head wasn't fully formed. Caught sight of an "okay" Szeras - still rough-surfaced, but without the usual God-awful pitting that model's been known for in the past.

    Everything else I bought was Forgeworld or non-model stuff. I have to say, while expensive, the Forgeworld stuff continues to be leagues better than Finecast in terms of detail.
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    Re: Official WarSeer Finecast Poll.

    So this months White Dwarf has what is essentially an advertising feature about working with Citadel Finecast where it discusses having to fill air bubbles, use regular green stuff to fill in gaps where larger bits don't fit together, and use warm water or a hairdryer to staighten out bent pieces. Don't remember there being any that specific before although I'm sure I've seen one about filling in air bubbles. Some sort of acknowledgement of issues?!
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    Re: Official WarSeer Finecast Poll.

    Its actualy an unchanged reprint of an article they ran in the Dreadfleet issue. I think it coincided with the release of liquid green stuff and the other tools the first time round.
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    Re: Official WarSeer Finecast Poll.

    Interesting, wonder why they decided to run it again. I didn't get WD regularly when Dreadfleet came out so didn't see it first time around although it does have the citadel tools adverts afterwards.
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    Re: Official WarSeer Finecast Poll.

    So on the What's New Today blog for today (the one showcasing the Armies on Parade winner from the US, the Dark Eldar army) there appears to be Finecast problems in plain view... look at the close up shot of the Clawed Fiend, are those not air bubbles all the way down its ab muscles?
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    Re: Official WarSeer Finecast Poll.

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Again View Post
    So on the What's New Today blog for today (the one showcasing the Armies on Parade winner from the US, the Dark Eldar army) there appears to be Finecast problems in plain view... look at the close up shot of the Clawed Fiend, are those not air bubbles all the way down its ab muscles?
    There's no holes in the "official" sales picture on the GW website, so it looks like "Finecast" is displayed in all it's glory again. I'm sure the "official" (and appologists) line will be "but it looks like bullet wounds!"...
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    Re: Official WarSeer Finecast Poll.

    Er...the resin Clawed Fiend just came out. That's either one hell of a rush job to get it added into the diorama or some metal oddity. I'd lean towards the former, but it's still odd.

    Frankly, I'm surprised that army won - there were 2 VC armies there that blew it out of the water, IMO. The winner was probably the best 40K one there, but not the best overall, IMO. Ah well, I'm not a judge
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonahmaul View Post
    Interesting, wonder why they decided to run it again. I didn't get WD regularly when Dreadfleet came out so didn't see it first time around although it does have the citadel tools adverts afterwards.
    My understanding is that they did some last minute release schedule changes that dictated a change to magazine content. Probably why we got a several-page spread of the 2011 Throne of Skulls winners too. See the rumors forums for chat on recent GW issues.
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    Re: Official WarSeer Finecast Poll.

    Quote Originally Posted by loveless View Post
    Er...the resin Clawed Fiend just came out. That's either one hell of a rush job to get it added into the diorama or some metal oddity. I'd lean towards the former, but it's still odd.

    Frankly, I'm surprised that army won - there were 2 VC armies there that blew it out of the water, IMO. The winner was probably the best 40K one there, but not the best overall, IMO. Ah well, I'm not a judge
    Actually, you kind of are... isn't Armies on Parade decided by public vote? At least, it is here in Aus.
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    Re: Official WarSeer Finecast Poll.

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Again View Post
    Actually, you kind of are... isn't Armies on Parade decided by public vote? At least, it is here in Aus.
    ...oh yeah! I forgot about that - still, though, I'm surprised the Dark Eldar one beat the two Vampire Counts armies.
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    Re: Official WarSeer Finecast Poll.

    Let's see...two recent additions to the Finecast pile, as I'm clearly a glutton for punishment.

    1) Vulkan He'stan. Not bad. Needed a bit of liquid greenstuff repair. Main issues of concern were a few holes in the collar (underneath the cog work, so probably invisible after construction, but I patched it anyway) and some ill-defined edges on the helmet crest and mouthpiece (or at least I considered them ill-defined, again, unlikely to be noticed after construction). The helmet had some mold lines that I'm still not sure how I'm going to fix (none of my files fit into the groove on the crest, so...get new files?), but that's a model problem and not a Finecast problem in and of itself. Model's a bit expensive for what it is, but that's GW for you. Only bubbles were on the bottom of his feet.

    I will say that the model was re-freaking-diculous in terms of the tab at the bottom. There was some weird, undefined mass of connectors and resin strips connecting the raised foot to the tab. I've got no clue what was going on there - I had at first assumed mold slip or something, but then I noticed he matched the model picture...I shrugged and clipped it off (since I don't use the slots and tabs anyway, it wasn't a big deal).

    Overall, neutral reception - metal might have been a touch better, but not enough for me to care.

    2) Games Day Blood Angel Captain. Completely an impulse buy in Chicago and a bit bubbled in some flat areas. Most annoying bubble is on one side of his backpack. Again, the tab here was largely pointless, as there were tons of vents and resin flash on it - you couldn't just slot it into the base without substantial trimming. I don't mean the tab was too large or anything - just that there were little triangles of resin connecting it to the bottom of the model in several locations. Ho hum. Accessories were fine, face was fine, weapons were fine (well, fine enough - bolters eternally have that damn mold-line on the bottom of the clip which drives me nuts), so it was just the backpack bubble and a couple on the pouches.

    Here's my major complaint with this particular case (outside of his ridiculous ponytail...I can't decide to keep the head for nostalgia purposes or swap it out for a Sanguinary Guard helmet) - I had to dig through the pile to find one that looked decent in package and it still wasn't perfect (#firstworldproblems). I was the only one who was looking, though - everyone else just wandered up, grabbed one at random, and walked off with it. I can't say much - I bought one, after all - but I saw some that had some pretty awful mold-slips and bubbled-away bolters.

    Overall - metal would have been better with this one - what issues I had would have been solved in a more stable material. It was easier to clean up, but any time-savings will be taken up by bubble repair. Should I return it? Eh, maybe... I'm pleased enough with it, though. I'd rather just get it fixed and based. This isn't like the absolutely terrible Arjac models I went through last time. I'm far more lenient than most on here (IMO, at least ) and as long as I can repair it without having to resculpt detail, I'm pretty much okay with it.
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    Re: Official WarSeer Finecast Poll.

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    Re: Official WarSeer Finecast Poll.

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    Re: Official WarSeer Finecast Poll.

    So, has anyone managed to purchase a well cast Arjac Rockfist? I've searched both my local GW and independent retailers and the casting is not remotely good enough. A wavy Thunder hammer and a shield that's not circular seem to be the main issues. I don't know about the rest of the world but in the UK there are rules on selling products that are fit for purpose. I'm starting to think that the perfect looking FC models displayed on GW's website are in fact cast in metal.

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    Re: Official WarSeer Finecast Poll.

    Quote Originally Posted by senso View Post
    I'm starting to think that the perfect looking FC models displayed on GW's website are in fact cast in metal.
    The studio models are usualy versions of the model cast in a proper resin, even the metal ones.
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    Re: Official WarSeer Finecast Poll.

    Quote Originally Posted by senso View Post
    So, has anyone managed to purchase a well cast Arjac Rockfist? I've searched both my local GW and independent retailers and the casting is not remotely good enough.
    Dunno about Arjac, but I'm yet to find a Szeras the Illuminator that I'd be prepared to purchase at any of the shops round here. The problem tends to be his staff, which in one case was so warped itt looked like a particularly ornate longbow.
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    Re: Official WarSeer Finecast Poll.

    Quote Originally Posted by Graeme View Post
    Dunno about Arjac, but I'm yet to find a Szeras the Illuminator that I'd be prepared to purchase at any of the shops round here. The problem tends to be his staff, which in one case was so warped itt looked like a particularly ornate longbow.
    That problem is simple enough to solve - the problem that's less simple on Szeras is how nearly every model of him I've seen has been pitted and pock-marked to hell. That doesn't seem to be intentional, but I've yet to see one that actually has smooth armor plates.
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    Re: Official WarSeer Finecast Poll.

    I bought a unit of 10 incubi and 5 had to be relaced, 3 of the repalcements had to be replaced. They cant even be bothered to check the replacements to make sure they are good quality. I am sorry I am not going to spend hour fixing my models that should be useable without major defect.
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    Re: Official WarSeer Finecast Poll.

    Quote Originally Posted by loveless View Post
    That problem is simple enough to solve - the problem that's less simple on Szeras is how nearly every model of him I've seen has been pitted and pock-marked to hell. That doesn't seem to be intentional, but I've yet to see one that actually has smooth armor plates.
    all 6 of the ones I had showed the same fault a rough texture all over the "body", in the end I called GW and told them not to bother sending out a replacement as obviosly the 13 stormlords (even the final one was pretty crap I just couldn't be arsed changing it again) and 6 szeras models were good examples that the product was crap, only to be told "everyone else is happy with it" LOL!!!

    Just noticed the FINECRAP vargaurd Obyron or whatever Necron character is on their flickr pics for today check out the bent weapon - nice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 75hastings69 View Post
    Just noticed the FINECRAP vargaurd Obyron or whatever Necron character is on their flickr pics for today check out the bent weapon - nice!
    Well I can one up that one. How about a model on GW's OWN website. Check out the Dark Eldar Succubus...

    http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/ca...d=prod1160050a

    Look at the third picture – the raw unpainted model. Compare it to the painted model. Notice anything different? Look at the weapon in the left hand. There's supposed to be some sort of fur/hair ornament dangling from near the blade end. Well, in the unpainted picture, that piece is missing!

    I noticed it because the same thing happened to mine. The model is so frail, flimsy and pathetic that it only takes the slightest bit of pressure to break off this piece. And you can forget about re-attatching it without completely ruining the connecting area. There's just too little to work with. And apparantly the GW photographer had the same thing happen. Piece breaks off, realizes it's to delicate and frail to repair, so just proceeds to take the 'official' photo without it, perhaps thinking that nobody would notice.

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