Man O' War and you...

[BigRob]

I know they did two models one with oars and one without, despite the rules for the ship........

[Eternus]

I know they did two models one with oars and one without, despite the rules for the ship........

Hmmm. I have the Ironfists with the oars, I don't recall one with no oars. In fact, I am only aware of one ship type that had two versions released: The plastic Wargallies and the metal Wargallies, which had different prow rams.

[Spiney Norman]

I thought there were 2 releases of the ironfist- one much larger than the other. I never thought they were rare (I got some when a heap showed up on eBay about a year ago).

I don't think the size difference was that much, the main difference was that one version had oars and the other didn't. Still from my experience the ironfists are the rarest of the Empire ships on ebay, though nowhere near as hard to get hold of as the chaos ships.

Hmmm. I have the Ironfists with the oars, I don't recall one with no oars. In fact, I am only aware of one ship type that had two versions released: The plastic Wargallies and the metal Wargallies, which had different prow rams.

There were indeed two variants of the ironfists as BigRob says, one with oars and one without. I think the no-oars version was released first and quickly replaced by the oared version. My models are the with-oars version and I think the no-oars version are extremely rare, at least I don't remember seeing any on ebay in recent times.

[Hubman]

I have six non-oared Ironfists and during the period that I actively hunted for MoW ships on Ebay, I never encountered an oared version of it. I only saw non-oared and they came by not very often, but often enough to give me the impression that they were not incredibly difficult to get. Or was I just lucky? The oared version was in my opinion much harder to get. In fact, so much harder that I decided I'd settle for non-oared Ironfists instead.

I also recall the oared versions being longer than the non-oared, since the non-oared versions are somewhat round and a straight section had to be included in the newer model to accomodate the oars.

Kind regards,

Hubman

[Zakspeed]

Ironfists can actually be easily converted from plastic wargalleys

here's one I did a while ago:

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/ironfist.jpg

remove the figurehead / ram, cut it down by removing a central section (including removing some of the front oars) make some different masts..

I've got most fleets - my fave is Skaven for which I've done about 6 new ship types such as the giant poison wind globadier:
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s...frontright.jpg

food catcher:
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s...odcatcher1.jpg

giatn rat barges:
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s...1892841200.jpg

rules are available on sea of claws yahoo site...

havent played for a while now - must persuade some mates to have a game...

[corps]

bretonian fleet at the time lend from a friends but my most vivid memories came from a battle in wich we played in team and we manage to first deal heavy damage to the black ark and then sinck by board assault. we lost anyway but that din't matter the face of the dark elves player when it loved ship sink was so great. probably my second best defeat in any gw games.

[dubhgilla]

http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/13...rShipping2.png

New Man O'War for Xmas? Dark Elves picture.

Well apparently not as this is an old picture in 28mm scale. But why else wold they put this in a newsletter?