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    Less confirmed rumors = more excited?

    So with the new clamp down on rumors, no black boxes, shortend time for pre orders, and very few leaks coming out I realized that with Ogre Kingdoms coming out soon I "know" very little about what will be with in the book, other than having seen a few pics.

    That said I very much look forward to buying a army book that I don't already know 90% of the rules for. So I stopped reading the rumor thread. It just seems like I've been reading the spoiler before watching the movie for the last several releases.

    Just got me wondering if anyone else is looking forward to buying a book before knowing most of the content before hand.

    How about you?
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    Re: Less confirmed rumors = more excited?

    It's curbed my enthusiasm of new releases to the point I won't automatically buy the OK book nor any models until I can see them up close, and that won't be until after they are released, and until the policy is reversed, this also applies to any future releases also. I'm fairly sure that a lot of people will share my view point and thus the OK initial release day sales will not meet GW's expectations. One week is not enough time to drum up much excitement over an incoming product.

    Way to have the opposite effect that you intended, GW.
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    Re: Less confirmed rumors = more excited?

    I look at it like movie previews. Sometimes - usually - they ruin a movie for me. I like all the rumors, but all the confirmations just kind of leads to a let down. I can't stop looking, but I really really want to play the new ogres, except I'm going to know the whole book before it comes out it seems. I'm less excited and more just ready for it to get here.
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    Re: Less confirmed rumors = more excited?

    I agree.

    I think GW has it spot on with the way they handle rumors
    and tbh they do it the same has many other companies do when it comes to release date products. I run a shoe store so that is where this knowledge comes from but Jordan/Nike doesn't release photos of their release date shoes until they are good and ready, and if you are caught taking pictures, displaying, showing shoes, or selling them prior to a release date you can get your nike license yanked.

    Same with Wizards of the coast, they release the information when they are good and ready not when the public decides they should get it.

    I know it sucks for those that like rumors but GW really isn't doing anything unusual or negative really.
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    Re: Less confirmed rumors = more excited?

    As for rumors - I don't care - when I heard the new Orcs & Goblins book was coming out I was super pumped!

    When I heard Storm of Magic was coming I was super pumped!

    I don't read the rumor threads other than to look at pictures - So for the Orcs & Goblins I drooled over the pics of the Spider, savages, etc - same for Storm of Magic, the new VC release

    As for the rules themselves....

    MUCH better to wait for the book to come out, sometimes they come out a little bit before at the GWs via the black boxes, and then read through at my hearts content!

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    Re: Less confirmed rumors = more excited?

    If you care so little for this game or for the minis that nothing can hold your interest beyond a few days lead time, then you won't be around long enough to really get into warhammer anyway.

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    Re: Less confirmed rumors = more excited?

    I've said it before and I'll say it again.

    All we care about is the next thing we don't know about, no matter where in the development cycle we find out exactly what's coming.

    The closer GW can have "find out exactly what's coming" to when models are actually on sale, the better they will do.
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    Re: Less confirmed rumors = more excited?

    I only get excited when i hear rumours about stuff i care about, so it's hard for me to make an assessment, that said when the new IG book was being released the rumours made me much more interested in excited, so much so that i bought a lot of the stuff i wanted on the first couple of days. Less rumours can't generate more excitement.

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    I started playing at the end of 5th edition, so no Shimmergloom... In and out since then, and I enjoy the fluff/hobby aspect/list building more than the game.
    Last time I bought I bought a book with zero knowledge was 6th ed DE. That was a huge let down for the $200 investment (back then the army box with book came out 2 weeks before the book was released).

    Ever since then I feel like I've known most of the facts before release. I just look forward to reading an armybook before I know all the details.

    I was just looking to see if anyone else felt the same.
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    Re: Less confirmed rumors = more excited?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shimmergloom View Post
    If you care so little for this game or for the minis that nothing can hold your interest beyond a few days lead time, then you won't be around long enough to really get into warhammer anyway.
    I'll try to remember that when I hit my 20th anniversary in the GW hobby in 2016.
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    Re: Less confirmed rumors = more excited?

    It's (not the only factor, but it sure didn't help) dried up my spending to the point that I've only bought two books (CE and C:GK) recently (in the last year) and they were both at least a few months after they were released.

    The gradual buildup over several months let me plan my spending and if there was one army that I wasn't interested in, then there was information on others that I 'was' interested in. Alas, that is gone...

    Now I'm looking for opponents and finding more opponents in other systems, whereas it used to be almost entirely GW...so maybe I'm not alone...
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    Re: Less confirmed rumors = more excited?

    I'm pretty new here so only really saw rumor threads for TK onwards. The TK thread got me well excited and ment that when the book came I had a good idea of what I wanted to buy so I didn't waste any money. The lead up times also gave me a chance to save the funds for such a big buy. For things like C: DE (and older armies) the black box gave me the chance to look through the book, work out a list and gave me a fair amount of time to save up too.
    This new one week heads up thing from GW makes it hard to really save up for anything. I can see why they are doing it but if it wasn't for sites like this I would never buy anything the week it comes out.
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    Re: Less confirmed rumors = more excited?

    For me since this clamp down ive really reeled in my spending, ive started to wait till after the release date and ive ahd a good read of the book to see if its worth me buying and by that time im not really excited and less likely to buy it since theres no release day rush. Now it really is a case of lets wait untill someone i know buys it and lets me read there copy.

    Before id read the rumours and get a pretty good idea as what is was going to be like, then get to look at the black box and give the book a read and see the models in person, and if it was an army i collect i could give it a little play test to get the feel of the book, then come in release day and go this book is awesome im going to get it.

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    Re: Less confirmed rumors = more excited?

    makes me far less excited. I don't really give a toss what they're releasing anymore, I've seen pics of every new release before GW makes official word. I'm not going to order the mammox "because it loos cool", I might buy the book, then I'll see if I want one in my list.

    The new release policy just leaves a sour taste in my mouth.

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    Re: Less confirmed rumors = more excited?

    I am considerably less excited and more likely to wait with my purchases instead of rushing out on the day of release.
    Currently I don't even know when the next day of release is going to be or what is going to be released. So how the heck am I supposed to be excited about it?
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    Re: Less confirmed rumors = more excited?

    It's reducing the interest for me. A good build up draws me and starts making me think about what from a range interests me (like cinema trailers). Simply launching it with only a week to go means the product lifetime and my interest is a lot shorter. This I think is a shame as instead of knowing about a particular model or range for several months and getting excited about it (like a good movie or book) I instead I only see an instant splash and it dies quickly to the next wave. Some companies like this policy, some don't, but the companies that tend to get my money are the ones that do get me excited in advanced.
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    Re: Less confirmed rumors = more excited?

    Quote Originally Posted by Barry "the blade" View Post
    So with the new clamp down on rumors, no black boxes, shortend time for pre orders, and very few leaks coming out I realized that with Ogre Kingdoms coming out soon I "know" very little about what will be with in the book, other than having seen a few pics.

    That said I very much look forward to buying a army book that I don't already know 90% of the rules for. So I stopped reading the rumor thread. It just seems like I've been reading the spoiler before watching the movie for the last several releases.

    Just got me wondering if anyone else is looking forward to buying a book before knowing most of the content before hand.

    How about you?
    It isn't a novel with a story to be ruined by skipping to the end. Its a reference book... if whats inside isn't worthwhile, I won't buy it. The lack of information and lead times is one of several things GW screwed up this year.

    In years past, by this point in the rumour cycle, I was planning purchases and even getting somewhat excited by the upcoming release. This year, my interest in the new army books has been largely limited to flipping through them to see how badly they screwed up (GK & O&G). For TK I didn't even have enough interest to do that. I'm mildly intrigued by Ogres (partly because of the concept more than wanting the army), but not to the point that I plan on buying anything. I might have enough interest to look at the book on the release date, but then again, I may wait until I wander in for some non-GW product.
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    The reduction in the rumor stream has reduced Warhammer's presence in my mind. I didn't even know storm of magic was a thing until a week after its release. I just don't pay as much attention anymore.
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    Re: Less confirmed rumors = more excited?

    What Malisteen said. I don't go to the store on release days anyway because it's loud, crowded and keeps me from browsing. Actually I only go to the store to buy stuff that I know exists, I don't go there to check out the new whatever. That's what the internet is for .
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    Re: Less confirmed rumors = more excited?

    I have over a hundred quid to splash out on ogres, with solid rumors I would have spent the lot first day of pre orders get as much as possible, now I'm probably going to wait till I get the book then get what is most useful cheaper later from online retailers with most of the money being put aside for other projects, sad really
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