Ogre Kingdoms 8th Ed Tactics Recipe Book

[narrativium]

He can't get enough armour - once he has the crown, you've got 15 points of magic items allowance to play with. That will get you to maybe 4+ armour (Enchanted Shield) or a 6+ ward. He's still a T5 W4 character, and the ability to issue challenges will probably count you in good stead.

The reason I think people might be dismissing it is because at his points cost (and you have him at 425 points), you need to be playing a game at at least 2250 points to get a Butcher or BSB into your army. Players like the Hero choices. Don't get me wrong though - that sounds like an awesome choice to see on the table.

(I'm not sure where you think he's healing wounds from. It might be tricky to take a wound from the model but he'll never get them back.)

[sturguard]

Maybe I am wrong but you get +1 armor for being mounted right? If so, LA, Enchanted Shield, Mounted is 3+? You could then add the 6+ regen item.

[Avian]

That's not terribly great, though.

I just wish he could get a close combat weapon AND the crossbow AND a shield.

[No-One]

anyone else think the Firebelly with Fencer's Blades, or even a Slaughtermaster with Fencer's Blades is pretty much a no brainer?

[sturguard]

Why would you want to put them on a Firebelly? I can see a Slaughtermaster as he has more points to spend on other items.

[sturguard]

Does anyone like the Forbidden Rod on a Slaughtermaster given that you can recover wounds by casting spells- so lose 2 wounds, add d6 power dice then regain the lost wounds. It is cheaper than the Grut's Sickle and doesn't come with the chance of getting autokilled by your unit. +2 to your casting rolls is nice, but if you have say 6 power dice it might not affect how many spells you can throw, whereas if you roll 4-5 additional power dice you could possibly throw 2 more spells with the +5 from your slaughtermaster (And casting gut magic).- Nevermind, I just reread and it is one use only, there goes that idea.

[Avian]

I'd rather take the Power Stone / Scroll and NOT have to heal back D3 wounds afterwards.

[sturguard]

Yeah, I misread, I thought it was usuable each turn.

[No-One]

yeah, i suppose you're right about the Firebelly

though i think it would be a good choice on a Slaughtermaster

anyone have any good suggestions for Firebelly builds? or are they better off just running them naked and saving points?

[Deroga]

As in Wound Allocation ala 40k?

Explain?

3 counters to Poisoin Pistol Maneaters:
a) 2nd wave bunkers ala Vampires
b) Skirmishing Bunkers
c) a ward save

Hope your opponents aren't putting 2 wound wizards in the fronk rank of their combat blocks.

Kind of like would allocation in 40k, in a sense that any enemy models that are ONLY in b2b with the champ (which will happen most of the time) can only attack him. This is unless i am mistaken. Overall it would add 1 or 2 more wounds worth before having to lose the model via combat.

[Orangecoke]

Hey guys, I'm about to assemble 4 mournfangs. Should I be putting a full command in them?

[Barry "the blade"]

Hey guys, I'm about to assemble 4 mournfangs. Should I be putting a full command in them?

I haven't gotten a game in yet, but if the unit costs 280 without command you might as well throw in the extra 30 for full command.

That's how I would do it, but I'm not drawing from experience with the unit...

[minionboy]

Why is everyone dismissing the Hunter on Stonehorn with Crown of Command so quickly? Yes, he is a 400 pt unit, but he has ldr 9/stubborn, is easily healed since the stonehorn takes half dmg on multi wound attacks and can get enough armor to be hard to kill by anything but the most dedicated close combat characters. He also has BS 4 for his harpoon, which isnt bad.

Easily healed? By what? Unfortunately while we do get Maw, Heavens, Death and Beasts, we don't have access to Life.

[ashc]

I think it's ref to bloodgruel.

[Nedar]

Hey guys, I'm about to assemble 4 mournfangs. Should I be putting a full command in them?

I think Musician and Standard Bearer are good choices...but not sure on a champion. Not sure on the champion...only 1 extra attack, you already have 7. So if you can spare 10 points, go for it. I'll prob run without.

Do remember than champions do not HAVE to accept challenges, so there's not really a negative besides you will lose your standard first (probably the main reason to not take one).

[fruitystu]

I'd always take a champion meself. Good fun for challenging out enemy heroes.

Regarding Maneaters....ran a big block yesterday with Scout and Vanguard. It was one hell of a shock for my opponents, shame about my positioning. More experimentation required on that one!

[minionboy]

I think it's ref to bloodgruel.

Except that bloodgruel doesn't work on other units, just the caseter

Hey guys, I'm about to assemble 4 mournfangs. Should I be putting a full command in them?

I'd build the champion anyhow, if you're doing hand weapon and iron fist, he'll just look slightly cooler, the only identifying piece is the handgun, and if you're putting a handgun on your unit champion, you're doing something wrong.

[ashc]

Good point, i missed that it was ref hunters. Perhaps he meant less likely to take crippling damage as opposed to actual healing?

[narrativium]

I think Musician and Standard Bearer are good choices...but not sure on a champion. Not sure on the champion...only 1 extra attack, you already have 7. So if you can spare 10 points, go for it. I'll prob run without.

Do remember than champions do not HAVE to accept challenges, so there's not really a negative besides you will lose your standard first (probably the main reason to not take one).

I'd actually be tempted by the champion. You're talking about a 70-point model, probably 80, with impact hits, stomp and eight attacks, who's got half a chance in a challenge against non-combat characters. There's an Underdog bonus up for grabs.

[Avian]

Champion should be fine, cost considering, especially since you can spread wounds from shooting out more and last longer before you have to remove any models.