Chaos Dwarfs Forgeworld Army List

[AmonRa]

@spikedog

Thx man, being wrong never felt better

[spikedog]

Hehe no worries, I too am happy you are wrong in this instance! Otherwise I would have felt a little sad about my new army

[angelofrage]

and for those wanting to buy lots of units of infernals....dont.....they are a special choice, normal warriors and hobgoblins are the troops choices. hobgoblins are awesome, had a unit of 40 take out a 940pt unit of chaos trolls with throgg in.

If you're referring to the army list leaked from the French gamesday, then that was a very early draft and the experimental rules have since been confirmed to be pretty much as they are in the newest book. This means infernal guard as Core, at least stated as much in the PDF available from the FW site.

Ofcourse this all depends on what the Legion of Azgorh list actually is, however it would seem very silly of FW to release Infernal Guard, but then have them as special, meaning you can't put together a list from what they have released/shown so far as there are no core choices on the horizon.

[stampy]

If infernals are a core choice in new official army list, then i'd be UBER happy as quite frankly - pts difference between standard warriors and infernals is so small compared to superior stats of infernals.

However if i stick my realism hat on - can see them being made special choices for both chaos and chaos dwarf armies unlike troop selection rules stated in forgeworld PDF.

[belgarath97]

@Bildo

I'm pretty sure that is a violation of the forum rules, you can't post points values

[stampy]

warriors are 5pts less than infernals, it adds up.

But i am saying WS, S and armour differences IMHO make Infernals much better buy. Especially when really, in order for standard warriors to be able to actually kill stuff, need to pay for great weopons.

If (BIG IF) they are core in the official list then for me - definately going to be 4 units of Infernals - 2 decent sized units with shields/hand weopon and 2 smaller units with fireglaives. Backed by usual characters and warmachines.

[Codsticker]

@Bildo

I'm pretty sure that is a violation of the forum rules, you can't post points values

That is correct- I have removed the offending post.

@Bilbo: please do not do that in the future.

Codsticker

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[bildo]

i appologise, id avoided it in the past, just tired and couldnt think of a better way to put it

[Codsticker]

Don't sweat it.

[Astrogothic]

I see alot of options with the Dark Castellan (Heroes) giving your units stubborn leadership 9. Thinking of Hobgobs as ultimate tar pit.

[Astrogothic]

I'm liking the increased AS for Bull centaurs. Makes them more viable. Can be 2+ AS with Shields. Also now they stomp.

[Havock]

I know i could just use dwarf list but with such awsome models i cant see why they would not allow them to fielded in tournaments in order to encourage figure sales.

I am seriously loving the fireglave rules of handguns that +1 strength in combat and all of the models look soo cool (although personnaly dont like siege giant - or any of GW giants for that matter).

If can only be used in friendly games then I will probably not buy them as i am tournament gamer and for same money as chaos dwarf army could probably get 1.5 to 2 other armies put together for same money

Well, considering plenty of people with 'old' Chaos Dwarfs will likely use the list as well, you might just see an exception here. of course you could always 'counts as' normal dwarves, fireglaives being great weapon quarrellers etc.

Still, not the most fun thing, I understand the need to use those miniatures as they are, knowing forgeworld the army will likely be somewhat underpowered but with incredibly powerful options against certain units, which will cause vocal whining among the users of said units

[AlphariusOmegon20]

Anyone know what BRB lores they'll have access to?

[Astrogothic]

So far it's Fire, Metal and death.

[bildo]

tha som lamasu had shodow so i assume that will be added

and dwarf characters cant join hobgob units, they deem them unworthy, which makes sense

[stampy]

What are people's opinions on the deathshrieker?

For me, the strength 3 and panic test shot is not far off useless what with high leadership big blocks of infantry and BSB - panic test will not do anything and strength 3 isn't exactly going to cause anyone concern.

Whilst i can see the higher strength 8 shot being useful against big monsters, going to require serious amount of luck for it to actually hit.

To me, for special choice warmachines - magmaflow cannon seems a much more reliable/useful choice.

[Astrogothic]

Yeah Magma Cannons and of course Hellcannons are a must. Dreadquake might be worth a look with an Ogre added and a Daemonsmith for the reroll.

[stampy]

With all the moaning that goes on about assembling Hellcannons they are definately out of my list. However biggest dilemma for me is teh whole Iron Daemon vs Dreadquake Mortar.

If both are rare choices as the leaked 1st edition forgeworld list states then i will find it impossible to decide on which. I love the Iron Daemon model and like the Dreadquake Mortar - so on this basis would be Iron Daemon. However ruleswise it seems that Dreadquake has the edge.

Here's hoping Iron Daemon is actually a special choice as outlined in current forgeworld pdf.

[bildo]

well ive got 2 dread quakes because the movement penalties and such are awesome, and the str5 ap is really really nice. must have an ogre though, the 3+ to shoot each turn really gets you when you need it. plus people are affraid to attack it if it has an ogre in it, unless they send a sizable unit at it, which is then a waste of that unit.

i tried a hellcannon, but was never that pleased with it, well, when compared to the dread quake which is only a few points more.

[stampy]

You tried any games using Iron Daemon? - cannon or combat version

What are your thoughts on it if you have?