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    No worries, just found it amusing.

    On topic, still eagerly awaiting this book. I'm a beer 'n pretzells gamer myself so I don't if the rules aren't the most balanced. And even that is debateable, most FW/WF stuff is pretty good I find.

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    Hopefully it'll be out before October. There's gonna be a big SoM tourney at that time, and I'd dearly love to have official rules for the Exalted Vermin Lord and Wolf Rats for that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrojanWolf View Post
    Hopefully it'll be out before October. There's gonna be a big SoM tourney at that time, and I'd dearly love to have official rules for the Exalted Vermin Lord and Wolf Rats for that!
    I heard an April release date, with all of the models released within 12 months of that release (most of them before Christmas 2012). I think we can be pretty certain that the test rules on the FW site will be almost identical to what is in the book. I doubt FW do much, if any playtesting.

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    Sounds good to me!

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    Swamp-hulk? I can't remember if this was it's name
    I realise it's early days for a lot of this stuff... but I don't suppose you could elaborate on the swamp hulk at all? With a fenbeast in the works to proxy as a gorger for the army this sounds like something I could use ...maybe as a giant?

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    Swamp hulk. Sounds like a fenbeast

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    After this another 'Imperial Armour/Tamurkhan' style book detailing another epic clash between good and evil.

    But NOT Chaos. The plans for the full series of Chaos books as originally imagined has been shelved.
    That is really, really sad. It would be epic to see them. Chaos + clash with some other armies like elves, DE, Brett's etc. Any idea nwhy they shelved it? I thought Tumurkhan did well in sales. I bought one, would be cool to have all 4 chaos powers in a campaign series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuttivillus View Post
    That is really, really sad. It would be epic to see them. Chaos + clash with some other armies like elves, DE, Brett's etc. Any idea nwhy they shelved it? I thought Tumurkhan did well in sales. I bought one, would be cool to have all 4 chaos powers in a campaign series.
    Supposedly GW got cold feet about the timeline advancing in the Tumurkhan book, Rick Priestley argued, they fired him and the book was hastily rewritten to its current form and its 3 companion books were scrapped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider-pope View Post
    Supposedly GW got cold feet about the timeline advancing in the Tumurkhan book, Rick Priestley argued, they fired him and the book was hastily rewritten to its current form and its 3 companion books were scrapped.
    Well, some people are plain dumb. WTF?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider-pope View Post
    Supposedly GW got cold feet about the timeline advancing in the Tumurkhan book, Rick Priestley argued, they fired him and the book was hastily rewritten to its current form and its 3 companion books were scrapped.
    That's not true. I don't remember hearing Rick ever mentioning that at all and he has been very open about what happened.

    IMHO 4 books about Chaos Power vs Whatever in a row would be massively dull. I'm very glad that FW/WF took the same viewpoint.
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    The only rumor I heard it that It would contain scroll's for storm of magic that are army specific. And monsters that Can not be used by some army's.
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    That's not true. I don't remember hearing Rick ever mentioning that at all and he has been very open about what happened.

    IMHO 4 books about Chaos Power vs Whatever in a row would be massively dull. I'm very glad that FW/WF took the same viewpoint.
    I doubt that anyone that bought the IA 5-7 Vraks series would say that it was boring, considering that they were possibly Forgeworld's best selling books to date.
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    Loved reading Tamurkhan and now using the Legion of Azgorh list to create an army. I would have liked to seen the original idea of a different chaos god rampaging across different parts of the Warhammer World. After Monstrous Arcana, who knows what they'll do next. Would love to see Nagash make a come back, along with a large new sculpt from Forge World.
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    It really is a shame if FW drops the other Chaos invasion books. Of the 17 Chaos-oriented dolls Warhammer Forge has, eight of them are Nurgle-specific. That's great, I mean, I love Nurgle as much as the next person, but I thought there were four greater Chaos gods (or maybe GW is reducing their Chaos pantheon yet again). There are two Tzeench-specific dolls, and only one for Slaanesh and Khorne. I know that Nurgle got the push for Tamurkhan, so if they're not making the other books, will we ever see FW's glorious take on the other three?

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    Equally... of the 15 or so Warhammer armies, only two of them involve the Chaos Gods. (Beastmen effectively don't, any more). Four Forge World books for two armies, while the rest just have to wait... all so the four Chaos Gods get equal treatment? Not much of an argument to be made, there, I don't think, personally.

    Tamurkhan was an awesome book. Three more books all charting the progress of another Chaos Lord who didn't quite make it? That'd be pretty tedious IMO. I want to read about (to pick examples, not sure if this is what they are doing) the Dark Elves millennia-long war against the High Elves, the warriors of Khemri reprising their ancient conflict against the Lizards of the southern jungles, Bretonnia cleansing their lands of greenskins... all of which would be awesome if given the Warhammer Forge treament. Three more failed Chaos Lords? I mean... I'm sure that could be cool... but I'm not the least bit upset they're not doing it.

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    Well the original idea wasn't failure, it was the destruction of the Empire and the plight through it all. It actually would have ended up a pretty darn heroic tale if the rumors were true with Karl Franz being killed, etc, etc. Woulda been great to see other provinces get the treatment Nuln did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyrumour View Post
    That's not true. I don't remember hearing Rick ever mentioning that at all and he has been very open about what happened.

    IMHO 4 books about Chaos Power vs Whatever in a row would be massively dull. I'm very glad that FW/WF took the same viewpoint.
    Hence the "supposedly". I just repeated the rumour that's been going around, i make no claims of its accuracy or truth, it's just the explanation i've heard the most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SunTzu View Post
    Tamurkhan was an awesome book. Three more books all charting the progress of another Chaos Lord who didn't quite make it? That'd be pretty tedious IMO. I want to read about (to pick examples, not sure if this is what they are doing) the Dark Elves millennia-long war against the High Elves, the warriors of Khemri reprising their ancient conflict against the Lizards of the southern jungles, Bretonnia cleansing their lands of greenskins... all of which would be awesome if given the Warhammer Forge treament. Three more failed Chaos Lords? I mean... I'm sure that could be cool... but I'm not the least bit upset they're not doing it.
    Who said they didn't quite make it? Unless I am mistaken the four books told the story about how the empire was finally put out of its misery. A story arc that would actually change something, and would be epic anyway you look at it. But god forbid anything disturbs the status quo even if it was an alternate future thing of sorts. And following your reasoning how is it any less boring reading about High Elves vs Dark Elves? Not sure what TK have in common with Lizardmen unless you mean Skaven vs. Lizards, and as for the Bretonnia Orc thing, yeah really exciting stuff there, definitely a world shaking event.. Compare any of your examples with a storyline that would alter the future of warhammer coupled with the fact that when it comes to designing chaos models, the only limitation designers have is their imagination. Seeing knights in resin for bretonnia is not really exciting, no matter how nice the models might look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dominatrix View Post
    Who said they didn't quite make it? Unless I am mistaken the four books told the story about how the empire was finally put out of its misery.
    That was the original idea, yes, but not the point I was responding to, which was that Tzeentch/Slaanesh/Khorne should get the same coverage as Nurgle. The funny thing about conversations is it really helps if you read them in context, instead of jumping on single words and phrases.

    Rewriting the Warhammer World setting is even more silly, by the way, and I can completely understand why they didn't go for that, too.It's bad enough now with people asking if Forge World stuff is "official" (whatever that even means) without making every model/unit they create only valid in a an alternate Warhammer bizarro-world where everyone is dead. And if you really think it's only possible to make cool stuff for Chaos and the only thing that could possibly appear in a Bretonnian army is a knight... well, let's just be grateful that the Warhammer Forge guys have more of an imagination than you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SunTzu View Post
    Equally... of the 15 or so Warhammer armies, only two of them involve the Chaos Gods. (Beastmen effectively don't, any more). Four Forge World books for two armies, while the rest just have to wait... all so the four Chaos Gods get equal treatment? Not much of an argument to be made, there, I don't think, personally.

    Tamurkhan was an awesome book. Three more books all charting the progress of another Chaos Lord who didn't quite make it? That'd be pretty tedious IMO. I want to read about (to pick examples, not sure if this is what they are doing) the Dark Elves millennia-long war against the High Elves, the warriors of Khemri reprising their ancient conflict against the Lizards of the southern jungles, Bretonnia cleansing their lands of greenskins... all of which would be awesome if given the Warhammer Forge treament. Three more failed Chaos Lords? I mean... I'm sure that could be cool... but I'm not the least bit upset they're not doing it.
    Good point. I guess I just figured each of the books would have different armies being attacked, but yeah, it would probably be better to highlight other campaigns (Goblins invading Loren, Brettonia fending off Vampires, Skaven tunneling through Dwarf halls, etc.). I change my request Forge World! Get to the other three Chaos Gods, but do another campaign book surrounding other races first! Thanks for the wake up call, Sun.

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