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    Blood Bowl

    Rumours of a new edition of Blood Bowl. (This deserves its own thread)

    I first heard about this in 2007.
    At the time I was writing articles for The watchman and this is what I said in a rumours article:

    Blood Bowl was first released in 1987 That would make this year its 20th Anniversary (if my dates/maths are correct!) There were a lot of updates to the ‘living rulebook’ (online). I think this activity may have been due to the intended re-release of Blood Bowl this year although I can not say this for certain (but I can’t see Games Workshop waiting 5 years until the 25th anniversary).
    This is just a hunch. (For those that don’t know me from Warseer my hunches are wrong most of the time!)
    Aly Morrison and Mark Bedford have been working on new teams for some of the races with all individual players like the new Human team. And I think a number of these are completed and ready to go.

    So it would seem I was wrong about them waiting another 5 years then.

    I later found out I was also wrong about the teams being completed.
    They were only 'planned' at this time.

    But it seems like this is happening now:

    75hastings69 has posted to say Blood Bowl is coming next year so that will be in 2012 for the 25th anniversary.

    He also said this

    Quote Originally Posted by 75hastings69 View Post
    So four teams of completely individual minis and a spammy new pitch wouldn't interest you?

    As for rules why try and fix what isn't broken?
    For those who don't know Hastings rumours are 99% fact.

    So all we know so far is four nice new plastic teams, a new pitch and not much change to the rules.

    Exactly what the four teams are has not been posted.
    If the pitch is card, "astrogranite", plastic or cloth like the new Dread fleet also remains a mystery.

    EDIT: Additional clarification/speculation from hastings

    "The original rumours I heard on this suggested only two teams of individual models in the box - orcs & humans, it's only later mutterings I've heard that suggest there might be four teams."

    I will try to keep this first post updated with new rumours BUT ...
    This release is still a good way off so don't be expecting lots of new information any time soon.

    I love Blood Bowl so have only one more thing to say ....

    BRING IT ON!
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    Re: Blood Bowl

    Rules wise Blood Bowl is one of the best games ever created, IMHO. I would like to see the three experimental teams added to the core rules and I hate to say it but my beloved Dwarves should take a small hit, maybe have their specialty players increased in price a bit.
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    Re: Blood Bowl

    Blood bowl yes! I hope they include the rules for dungeon bowl too (which can be much more fun).
    I just started a local BB tourney so cant wait to see what somes of this.

    Quote Originally Posted by slayer8045 View Post
    Rules wise Blood Bowl is one of the best games ever created, IMHO. I would like to see the three experimental teams added to the core rules
    3 extra teams? There is already like 20.
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    Re: Blood Bowl

    Sounds like a really good idea. Not sure if it's too much to hope for, but a Hedstrom designed bunch of teams where every player is an individual model like space hulk could be really amazing.
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    Re: Blood Bowl

    Loving the sound of it already. Presumably though this will be out before 40K 6ed is released in Q3?

    GW have a tight scedule over the next 2 years.
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    Just speculating, but the "natural" choices for the four teams would likely be:

    Humans
    Orcs
    Dwarfs
    High Elves (or possibly Chaos or Undead)

    That's not to discount any of the other teams- I just expect the teams featured with a limited release to be the most... iconic to the game.

    I wonder if they'll tweak the very few things in the rules that actually still have some room for improvement.
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    Re: Blood Bowl

    Quote Originally Posted by static grass View Post
    Loving the sound of it already. Presumably though this will be out before 40K 6ed is released in Q3?

    GW have a tight scedule over the next 2 years.
    If I had to guess I would think Blood Bowl would be in the same slot as Dread Fleet and be the big thing at Games Day and 6th edition would be in the summer.
    Just because that is what they have done before.
    But I have not been following the 6th edition rumours.
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    And what about LotR? The Hobbit is out next year, so I guess they will come up with something big for that as well?
    I say this, because here is hope, that Blood Bowl will be a regular release and no limited crap. And with regular I mean, that they update all the teams over time. Finecast or plastic.

    So, if we are really getting 4 teams, then my guess is on:
    Humans, Orcs, Dwarf and Skaven or Humans, Orcs, Chaos and some form of elves.
    Four teams to cover all aspects of the game, bashy and speedy, you know? High Elves and Humans are too similar, I think.
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    Re: Blood Bowl

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry View Post
    If I had to guess I would think Blood Bowl would be in the same slot as Dread Fleet and be the big thing at Games Day and 6th edition would be in the summer.
    Just because that is what they have done before.
    But I have not been following the 6th edition rumours.
    I too would guess this. Its just that if the hobbit movie is released in nov or dec. Then GW would be mental not to release the hobbit game straight after. With this in mind i would just assume that GW would try to avoid releasing BB so close in Sept/Oct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glucksbar View Post
    High Elves and Humans are too similar, I think.
    Not really, Humans are jack-of-all-trades whereas High Elves really are geared toward passing.

    I think they could both easily be featured in the new release.
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    Re: Blood Bowl

    I think Bloodbowl would have to be a non-limited release.
    Otherwise GW are shooting themselves in the foot. Obviously the previous boxed set will become obsolete after a new one, so they need a non-limited boxed set to be the entry into the game.
    The boxed set is a convenience for someone starting. Rather than buy your minis from one company, print off the rulebook, buy a pitch from another, get the rest (block dice, range ruler, etc) from a third, you get it all neatly in one place.

    I'm excited if it happens though. My pitch is starting to see wear and tear. And the only thing wrong with the current set IMO is
    A) It has an outdated rulebook. Get the new flashy LRB 6 in there. Throw in all the fluff as well (To differentiate it from the free online copy - would also make sense why the fluff got removed from that).
    B) The outdated mono-pose models in the set. Work the wonders of modern plastics and you'll have an awesome starter set.

    At the end of the day. I'm not excited due to it being a new boxed release. It'll definately make it easier to get new blood into the hobby, especially with GW backing it and making noise about it.
    But as always, it's down to the cool models they're going to bring out. I want to see what GW does with the models. It's sure to be awesome.

    As for teams.
    In my oppinion, Humans have a pretty good metal team. I'd like for them not to be in the boxed set... but they're Humans, the average race, so I don't see how they won't include them.
    Orcs, definately need some new models. So would be great to see them.
    I'd like High Elves to get redone, as their models look a bit dated. Similarly could also be Dark Elves.

    Other than that, not really sure. A lot of teams could definately use some work. Maybe Undead would be a good choice. Chaos as well.
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    Re: Blood Bowl

    This is one I probably wouldn't pick up because we already have all the rules and models the game needs. Don't see the need for a box set really. Everyone I know just buys a team and builds their own pitch.
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    Re: Blood Bowl

    This one I would most definitely be very happy about if true

    And with both Harry and Hastings mentioning it, it seems all we have to do is wait patiently for it to arrive!
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    I love Blood Bown but I really hate all the models, so if they make a nice Witch Elf team or something I'd buy it for that. As the rules are already available it comes down to the pitch and models as far as I'm concerned.
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    I don't think Chaos would be a good choice for a starter box for Blood Bowl. There are only two different players and the thing that really makes them special are the mutations. So you would either need a bunch of additional models you can't begin the game with, or you would need a mutation sprue and then depend on people converting. Not ideal.

    I think, if I were to pick I'd do Humans, Orcs, Lizardmen and then probably one of the Elf teams. It gives you a generalist team with the humans. A tough bashing/grinding teams with the Orcs. Lizardmen have a fair amount of bash, but also stunty players. And then any of the elves to give you an agility based team (although Dark Elves are a bit more tricky so perhaps not them). Alternatively if you really wanted something off the wall put the Slann team in the box. They could do with some models anyway (the only reason they are not in the rulebook) and it would give people something really different.


    @eldargal. If you are looking for a nice female team have you tried looking at some of the other companies that produce fantasy football teams? Some of them are not bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reticent View Post
    Not really, Humans are jack-of-all-trades whereas High Elves really are geared toward passing.

    I think they could both easily be featured in the new release.
    High Elves are humans with better catchers and AG4. I know they are the passing rout, but still, these two teams are the only twi teams which are so similar.

    So, my guess ist this:
    2 "good" teams vs 2 "evil" ones.

    For the good teams I could imagine: Humans, Woodelves or Dwarf - all of them could get their big guy in the boxed set, so there is much variety in the models.

    For the evil teams my guesses are on: Orcs, Chaos or Skaven (perhaps Dark Elves). With those first three you could again do the big guys and have much variety. With Chaos you could do a mutated team, I don't know.

    If this is a limited release, then they will include the big guys in the box. And then they might focus on teams that have big guys, so I don't see HE or DE happening.
    If it's a regular release and they update all the teams bit by bit, then I don't know. But frankly, then I don't care, because then I can buy them ALL
    And here's still hope they'll make new norse models.
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    Re: Blood Bowl

    I agree with someone that it makes little sense to make blood bowl a limited edition release. Unlike Space Hulk or Dreadfleet, it is already a specialist game with its own model line. If they make a limited edition starter box, would they remove the free living rulebook from the website? If they don't, then the box would really just be a BB expansion pack rather than its own game. If they do, then it makes no sense to have a BB model line available, since the game they go with won't be available once it's sold out.
    It's not impossible that they'll do it as an expansion pack kind of deal, it just seems odd and very breaking with precedent for these limited edition boxes.
    I guess my main hope from an update is a revision to the team lists. The huge amount of teams currently available is charming to some degree, but they are all over the place in terms of design style and far too "warhammer" looking model-wise. Any redesign of the game should have a total reconstruction of the teams, to streamline them and take out the warhammer aesthetic completely and replace it with the 2nd ed blood bowl aesthetic, in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wishing View Post
    The huge amount of teams currently available is charming to some degree, but they are all over the place in terms of design style and far too "warhammer" looking model-wise. Any redesign of the game should have a total reconstruction of the teams, to streamline them and take out the warhammer aesthetic completely and replace it with the 2nd ed blood bowl aesthetic, in my opinion.
    Are you talking strictly models here or are you looking for a redesign of the rules as well? The model side of it I wouldn't be fussed about. There are lots of alternative options and it's easy to convert almost anything into a Blood Bowl team if you want to. But new teams wouldn't hurt at all. Although as you say, personal preference for me would mean less of what passes for modern Warhammer aesthetic influence.

    Rules-wise I'd be much less certain about it. A few tweaks might be need here and there but by and large Blood Bowl is a very solid rule-set these days. And let's not forget that GW haven't actually been in control of Blood Bowl for many years now.
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    rules wise everything is ok exept claw+mighty blow+pilling on+block+tackle, this set up is to powerfull and in games ~1800-2000+ its retarded no fn totaly. i mean you get only bashy teams and no ball players.
    Theres has to be something done to motivate players to play with the all as now theres too many bashy team imo
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    Well, most of the agility teams wouldn't care about the claw to begin with. It's also dependent on 4 or 5 advancements and at that point said player really should be mean. And lastly, I think that ball focused teams can do well at those level, but it does require you to adjust your play-style and yes, it does become a bit trickier.
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