All mounted WoC......crazy??????

[lisaundead]

Best way to play mongols is with dark elves dark riders though.
I built an 2500 pt mongol army with 90 dark riders, all with x-bows. Strangely enough, noone of my friends want to play me anymore

//K

Ive got a strong aversion to playing elves of any pursuasion (must be my years playing stunties), but I think I will definitely give the all cavalry WoC army a try.

it may well be a thing of the past (7Ed) but Im fortunate that my gaming circle are not overtly competitive gamers, enjoying, instead, more fun and themed games, so I dont think it will be too much of a disadvantage.

Now, the $64,000 question is...can I squeeze everything I want, in to 2 - 2.5K?????

[laribold]

Don't forget Dragon Ogres and Shaggoths! In my eyes they easily fit in with an all cavalry army - essentially being centaurs.

And if you feel you need something to break steadfast ranks - 30 warhounds are less than 200pts and easily fast enough to get into flanks too!

[Urgat]

Best way to play mongols is with dark elves dark riders though.
I built an 2500 pt mongol army with 90 dark riders, all with x-bows. Strangely enough, noone of my friends want to play me anymore

//K

Lol, I did offer a similar list (but with wold riders) to my Chaos Warriors pal (with little to no ranged weapons in his army. There might be throwing axes on his mounted marauders from times to times). Oddly enough, he said "sure, go ahead, do it, but I won't play it". Those people, really, no fun

[lisaundead]

It really winds me up when people say "they wont play" a particular themed list. I would rather play an army that someone has put a bit of thought and effort in to rather than the cookie cutter or tourny lists...grrrrr!

[Urgat]

Jokes aside, I can understand (yes, seriously ). My wolves took all the luck of my spearchukkas, they consistently kill absurd stuff with their bows (best kill being a chaos lord in one turn, once, who thought himself invincible with all his saves and ward saves and only five wolves nearby, so he took a trek to change units. Mwahahaha.), and they're pretty much impossible to catch. He would be stuck to just running around after ghosts and hope for good magic or failed animosity tests to do anything.

[Daedalus81]

Build a lord to assassinate thier BSB and/or caster.

Steed
Word of Agony
Other Trickster's Shard
Sword of Swift Slaying
+whatever else you want

Stick him in a unit of knights and bee-line for their bunker. D6 S4 w/ no armor saves plus forcing ward re-rolls is usually good enough to put a wound or two on -- if you're lucky take him out right there. If he does accept the challenge after then the ASF with rerolls should finish the job. If he goes to hide then finish the job with a death snipe.

Once the BSB is down you've gained a decent advantage to break those steadfast blocks.

[popisdead]

Often themed armies can be made to work, especially with good critical analysis. You could also consider Khorne chariots, Steeds of Slaanesh (my favs) and Juggernaughts.

[dimetri1]

No, it didn't.

I have not seen anyone play with that build since 8th came out.

[Don Zeko]

I think you want to avoid the Mark of Khorne, sadly. Frenzy means being immune to psychology, and I think this army really needs to be able to flee from unfavorable charges to work best. I also think you're going to want unmarked sorcerers with Death. Sniping the enemy BSB or using the leadership debuff will mean that you can still party like it's 7th edition and break big enemy blocks on the charge. But yes, this is totally doable and should make for some very fun, tactical games.

[Urgat]

I have not seen anyone play with that build since 8th came out.

And I have. What's your point?

[lisaundead]

Well, Im definitely up for this challenge / project (along with creating a Zombie Pirate army!!!!!), so Im going to spend a bit of time this weekend (partner's away) writing lists and having a look at what models I have already.

Probably going to have to run to 3000 points to squeeze in everything I want

With regards to Death sorcerors....is it adviseable to have them mounted and stuck in with some knights? had originally planned on Disc mounted sorcerors.

Got some ideas running around in my tiny, empty skull about how this army should look...hmmmmmmm, watch this space, perhaps a plog is coming

[Zoolander]

No, it didn't.

Yeah, speaking competitively, it pretty much did. But it is a fun list to play, I've done it twice in 8th. It's not the most effective list out there, though.

[Urgat]

Of course. There's only one most effective list per book: it is... rumble: the most effective build of that book! I've seen a guy win a few 8th ed games with all mounted WoC army, because those knights win combats, steadfast or not, and after a while, steadfast is gone, and so is the unit shortly after. Was 2500pts games I believe as there was quite a few of those knights. Chaos knights have the chance top smash stuff on the charge, then keep on smashing stuff after the charge as well. The only thing I've seen them fear is my trolls (I've never played that guy thou, shame. I got plenty of trolls).

[Rosstifer]

(I've never played that guy thou, shame. I got plenty of trolls).

My knights dislike Trolls. So. OP, if you are going to face Trolls, taking some knights with Lances, Frenzy and the Flaming Banner. Hit on 3's, wound on 2's, no Regen. Tasty. Just hope they don't get to Vomit back.

[TheOneHawk]

Why the hell would you take lances on Chaos knights? Extra five points per model to make them worse? No thanks. With enscorelled weapons they're hitting on 3, wounding on 3, and if the trolls don't break/die from that (unlikely) then they're doing the same the next round, instead of wounding on fours now. Plus, knights are pricey, why would you have a unit of them that's basically just for one shotting trolls slightly more effectively than normal?

[Rosstifer]

Why the hell would you take lances on Chaos knights? Extra five points per model to make them worse? No thanks. With enscorelled weapons they're hitting on 3, wounding on 3, and if the trolls don't break/die from that (unlikely) then they're doing the same the next round, instead of wounding on fours now. Plus, knights are pricey, why would you have a unit of them that's basically just for one shotting trolls slightly more effectively than normal?

If you want Flaming Attacks? Good for Aboms, Various Vampire things, Hydras etc... You wouldn't take them in an optimized tourney list, but if you knew your opponent was bringing a Hellpit Abomination, you'd consider chucking them in there to stop it smashing your army.

[Urgat]

Why the hell would you take lances on Chaos knights? Extra five points per model to make them worse? No thanks. With enscorelled weapons they're hitting on 3, wounding on 3, and if the trolls don't break/die from that (unlikely) then they're doing the same the next round, instead of wounding on fours now. Plus, knights are pricey, why would you have a unit of them that's basically just for one shotting trolls slightly more effectively than normal?

They ain't hitting on 3 because mine are river trolls. And they're not doing the same next round because half of them are dead (autohit, S5, no save. Ah!) and the other half probably already running. Been there, done that. 8 river trolls are fun. And cheaper too, now

[THELOSTCITY]

I always quite liked that idea with lizardmem.

- scar vet : carno
- Skink priest : alter Steg

-Saurus cav
-Teradons
-stegs

[Rosstifer]

They ain't hitting on 3 because mine are river trolls. And they're not doing the same next round because half of them are dead (autohit, S5, no save. Ah!) and the other half probably already running. Been there, done that. 8 river trolls are fun. And cheaper too, now

In that case 40 Tzeentch Chosen. Or Gateway. Because that's all the WOC players on the internet know how to use, apparently

[sulla]

Hellcannons have wheels too... just model the handlers riding it since they aren't required to fire the thing.