Black Templars rumours

[Bloodspeaker]

On one hand, this makes me worry that there will mean even more melta-equivalent spam in armies.

On the other hand, there have been rumors of nerfing vehicles / making them easier to hit, so maybe this won't be as big of a deal.

It does sound appropriate though. I hope the codex allows for infantry hordes - that's always what I think of with BT.

Also bear in mind that 6th edition will nerf melta weapons supposedly.

[RandomThoughts]

Also bear in mind that 6th edition will nerf melta weapons supposedly.

I wasn't aware of that. What are the proposed changes, and do you have any sources? Thank you.

[Theocracity]

I wasn't aware of that. What are the proposed changes, and do you have any sources? Thank you.

Yeah, that's news to me too.

[Sami]

Providing they can't shrug off lance anymore, I'm not that worried. In fact, I'm quite looking forward to it.

Note that if they can still shrug off lance easily then I may find a new Most Hated army after IG...

[kahohess]

expect bt to be the landraider spam army

My wallet is scarred, but my airbrush will accept any challenge, no matter the odds.

[The Old Scholar]

My wallet is scarred, but my airbrush will accept any challenge, no matter the odds.

Heh-heh...nice!

[Wrath]

Also bear in mind that 6th edition will nerf melta weapons supposedly.

The only "nerf" I can think of from the rumors is that AP1 will no longer give a +1 to dmg table, it will just remove the -1 to damage rolls that all "tanks" get.

[MajorWesJanson]

The only "nerf" I can think of from the rumors is that AP1 will no longer give a +1 to dmg table, it will just remove the -1 to damage rolls that all "tanks" get.

Tanks getting a -1 to damage results normally? Something to make them a bit more durable than transport vehicles besides just armor values? Nice.

[althathir]

The Storm Raven is a flying Land Raider. It should stay GK and BA only. What we need for other chapters is a flying Rhino. Bare-bones flying transport, carries 10 models (or 5 terminators or jump troops) or 1 dreadnought (not both), no frills. For weapons, limit it to a stormbolter or two, with an upgrade to add a razorback turret.

Sword Brethren are currently a mix of normal and Terminator veterans, as separate units. I expect this to change somewhat. Either the Sword Brethren will merge the unit, like Wolf Guard, or the units will split, with PA/AA vets being named one thing and Sword Brethren being the terminators only (or vice versa)

I don't think you'll see a flying rhino equivalent, more likely fast rhino's like blood angels. Just wouldn't fit the chapters left to be updated besides maybe DA and I'm not sure if thats the direction they would head.

Yeah I don't think any army should be able to spam AR 14......

Blood angels can though they can only take them as dedicated transports.

Also bear in mind that 6th edition will nerf melta weapons supposedly.

Haven't heard that one, but it wouldn't be shocking with melta guns being such an auto include right now.

My wallet is scarred, but my airbrush will accept any challenge, no matter the odds.

Nice, if there was ever a post that needed to be accompanied by an epic soundtrack its this one.

Tanks getting a -1 to damage results normally? Something to make them a bit more durable than transport vehicles besides just armor values? Nice.

Most transports are tanks, so it would just make them slightly more duarble (they're supposed to be easier to hit) granted at this point those rumours are just rumours so I wouldn't plan on it.

[witchunter180]

I wouldn't mind if my SW razorback spam were more durable Especially after last week's tournament I was in; my razors were getting pwnd by eldar and IG missiles.

[althathir]

I wouldn't mind if my SW razorback spam were more durable Especially after last week's tournament I was in; my razors were getting pwnd by eldar and IG missiles.

They'll be easier to hit though, so you'll likely not be able to shoot them very much either. Again 6th is still a ways off, i'm thinking around march we will start to now more for sure.

[witchunter180]

I agree, maybe as early as febuary, as Jan seems too early (though I wouldn't be suprised of GW got in one last codex before 6th is released).

[Rockemsockem]

If I were going to make an iconic unit for the BT I would take the sword brethren and instead of giving them terminator armor I would give the
Artificer armor and a combat shield, allow them to wield a relic blade 1 handed and let them wield a variety of pistols/grenades. That would allow for some wicked sculpts in a variety of action poses, and also make a rock hard assault force (especially if they could get furious charge along with the vows...)

I would love to see that

[Pa1adin111]

expect bt to be the landraider spam army

Thank you ghost, your input is always appreciated

[Pa1adin111]

Original post updated.

[Wrath]

They'll be easier to hit though, so you'll likely not be able to shoot them very much either. Again 6th is still a ways off, i'm thinking around march we will start to now more for sure.

if the rumors hold true then BS3 will hit stationary vehicles on a 2+ ,moving on a 3+, and flat-out on a 5+

[KarlPedder]

Yeah based on my little file of collected 6th rumours it's not so much that Melta has been nerfed more that vehicles in general had been nerfed to an extent that Melta-spam wouldn't be quite as essential as it is now.

[orkmiester]

They'll be easier to hit though, so you'll likely not be able to shoot them very much either

Yeah based on my little file of collected 6th rumours it's not so much that Melta has been nerfed more that vehicles in general had been nerfed to an extent that Melta-spam wouldn't be quite as essential as it is now.

very interesting... if the BT become a LR spam army then things could get interesting... someone i know does that but 'currently' it is too easy to deal with ap 1 weapon or not. As 2d6 armour pen is going to do something, so i reckon it won't go away it just 'in theory' won't be as neccessary though making tanks easier to hit (does this count for tank vs tank as well as infantry) might make some players think differently.

though it seems a subtle enough nerf for it not to make transports death traps either- reserve judgement until we see the damage tables...

[Mr. Ultra]

I agree, maybe as early as febuary, as Jan seems too early (though I wouldn't be suprised of GW got in one last codex before 6th is released).

I think the last codex before 6th is supposed to be Tau. In any case, I hope so.

[witchunter180]

I think the reason I believe that is that GW did the exact same thing with the Skaven army book right before 8th ed was released for fantasy. The skaven book was pretty much written for 8th but still included a few bits from 7th (i.e. the stricter force org).