Some Dark Elf Rumours

[eldargal]

Edit: All indications point to a rumoured late 2013 release.
I've heard from two sources within GW that they have seen work in progress CAD thingamies for Dark Elf plastics, of which Witch Elves were named specifically. Another kit was mentioned as being Black Guard or Executioners. There was also another plastic kit he didn't recognise and some plastic characters. I'm embarassed to admit I can't find the original email to check exactly what he said. I think there may have been some large plastic critter as well.
EDIT: The other source just mentioned Witch Elf CADs which he wasn't too impressed with.

I've had this corroborated by another rumourmonger who said it fits in with what he heard of Dark Elves coming in 2013 and CAD images meaning they are usually 18-24 months or so away from production.

As always, until pictures are leaked or GW sends out an email treat it as rumour not fact.

Edit:

Oki-slash-doki, I have more Dark Elf rumours, from the same source as the first lot and also wcorroborated with a reliable rumourmonger:
The rumours:
-plastic monster, possibly a hydra, not certain its for DE specifically which isn't a problem with SoM scrolls of binding
-plastic mounted character, possibly female
-dual kit chariot (this was mentioned by others already)
-plastic bolt thrower

Witch Elves, Black Guard and Executioners also all with extra coroboration. Late 2013 still the most likely slot for release.

A plastic hydra would be nice, the way GW are doing plastic kits it could really be big and dynamic. But they just Finecasterisated the old hydra (and the bolt thrower) so I felt this seemed a little odd. If the plasticKarl Franz/Griffon rider kit pans out it would be interesting to see if that impacts this rumour, a possible Morathi/Hellebron/generic hero kit? Just speculation. The dual chariot kit has been wishlisted/rumoured before, so nothing too new with that.

For the record I consider myself a rumour dissemination facilitator, not a rumourmonger. As always don't believe it until GW announces it.

[Sappysid101]

It's a long way off but still good news! I'd probably buy witch elves if they was plastic (or resin tbh). Hopefull dark riders will turn up lol Thanks for the info

- Sid

[Count Zero]

Wonder if they would make a dual BG/Exec kit. Wouldn't surprise me with the amount of dual kits they seem to release now.

Thanks for the rumours.

[Infern0]

well thats good news
only thing i dislike is that new DE goodies are not any time soon

[Azazyll]

Wonder if they would make a dual BG/Exec kit. Wouldn't surprise me with the amount of dual kits they seem to release now.

I hope not - I want them to look different, not just heads and weapons.

This is great news!

[WokeUpDead]

great news!

more elves/eldar that need painting. estimated finish-line: 2109
glad to hear about plastic witches. I'll hope they intermix nicely with dark-eldar wyches.

[Morkash]

Nice to hear. Dark Elves are a great army and if the Specials turn into plastic, the better. A combined kit for BG and Executioners, hmm, there was no dual kit for elite infantry until now, was there? I'd welcome 2 seperate boxes.

[TsukeFox]

Betting that 2013 line will be Dark Elves, warriors & daemons of chaos- suck on that remainin 6th edition books-!

[a18no]

I've heard from two sources within GW that they have seen work in progress CAD thingamies for Dark Elf plastics, of which Witch Elves were named specifically. Another kit was mentioned as being Black Guard or Executioners. There was also another plastic kit he didn't recognise and some plastic characters. I'm embarassed to admit I can't find the original email to check exactly what he said. I think there may have been some large plastic critter as well.

I've had this corroborated by another rumourmonger who said it fits in with what he heard of Dark Elves coming in 2013 and CAD images meaning they are usually 18-24 months or so away from production.

As always, until pictures are leaked or GW sends out an email treat it as rumour not fact.

I really want to know what that is. The new book is very good, I'm very happy with it. But I must say that nothing new was added to him. Following all the new release, all armies got some new stuff. But since the book is complete in its all, I wonder what they can do...

BRING IT ON!!

[Tregar]

Thanks for the rumours- my cynical side was sure this thread's content was gonna be, "Anyone know anything about Dark Elves?"

[T9nv3]

Well, I guess I can wait till 2013 for some new Witch Elves. I'd rather see Black Guard get redone over Executioners. Once the new book drops I'll probably be picking up quite a few BG, but I love my executioners just the way they are.

The BRB Dark Elf entry mentions some kind of magical constructs that Malekith makes from from armour. Would be really cool to get something like that for Monstrous Infantry.

Lets hope we also see some Dark Riders and a chariot in this release.

[Tokamak]

I hope they don't give these beautiful models the same treatment the high elf elite has gotten.

[theJ]

I hope they don't give these beautiful models the same treatment the high elf elite has gotten.

What was wrong with the HE treatment?

[Symrivven]

Interesting rumour, if I'm not mistaken some other rumour monger(s) mentioned DE would be sooner than some would expect, so that would fit nicely with your rumour.

[Voss]

Wonder if they would make a dual BG/Exec kit. Wouldn't surprise me with the amount of dual kits they seem to release now.

That was my immediate reaction as well. As much as some people may object, elite units with different two handed weapons are an obvious dual kit slot. And both units really need to be plastic.

[Silvertongue]

ooooo <3

You see, even if Witch Elves are not that great (and let's face it, how horrible can semi-armored female elves be?)* I'd love them to be in plastic. Because that means that I can easily make conversions. Also, although I like the clothing and style of the current WElves, I don't like the minis itselves. The could very much benefit from the new style elven faces that are not "here, look, I have cheekbones".
Plastic characters are a really good new. Let's hope the new Karl Franz on his Gryph is the first of many SCs in plastic.

As for the other kit, I'm with Morkash. I prefer they make BG and Execs a separate kit. After all, it'd be very much like making Phoenix Guard and Swordmasters a combined kit, which is nonsense.

A big critter for DE could be Kraken-like. Or, of course, some kind of Khaine Temple on wheels (or a decent Cauldron of Blood, Screaming Bell style). If it's an animal, it would probably be Kraken or Superhydra-style.

Semi-Avatars of Khaine would also be nice, and fit the description in the BRB.

Also, Harpies, CoChariots and Dark Riders are needed.

Thank you, eldargal, for these snippets. Even if they end up not being true (although I think they're pretty logical), it's good to read something DE related. Oh, and 2013 is going to be an expensive year, if indeed Eldar are released by the end of 2012 or beginning of 2013.


*don't read this out loud, lest GW hear you and take it as a challenge.

[Druchii Monkey]

I really want to know what that is. The new book is very good, I'm very happy with it. But I must say that nothing new was added to him. Following all the new release, all armies got some new stuff. But since the book is complete in its all, I wonder what they can do...

BRING IT ON!!

Executioners and Black Guard should be separate. Very different character.

There are a few new things they could do that would be new, based on the Malus books.

1. The Endless - Malekith's Elite, varying abilities perhaps like Maneaters but specifically designed to hunt and kill characters. Some overlap with assassin.

2. Acolytes - from what i can remember, clothed in white cloth, no-armour, but lethal combat ability like Executioners. Think 2 attacks with killing blow. Again probably some overlap.

3. Character - "The Grand Carnifex" - in charge of the Cult Of Khaine. Axe wielding, grisly old blood priest.

Items - would be interesting to factor in Writ of Iron, that could give Black Guard as troops choices. Also model for cauldron of blood could do with rethink, and they could easily do plastic dark pegasus kit, hydra, dragon, and manticore are covered so that's the only one missing.

[Daniel36]

Well... They do need a new book... They also need new core units... oh well...

I hope GW will do the sensible thing. If you ask me they could even do a dual HE/DE core kit. Besides icons, how different are they really?

[Druchii Monkey]

That was my immediate reaction as well. As much as some people may object, elite units with different two handed weapons are an obvious dual kit slot. And both units really need to be plastic.

This just won't happen. We're not talking about Necrons here.

One bunch are Khainites, the other are a poles apart, militaristic elite. These need completely different bits and a completely different theme. Personally i reckon they should finecast the existing executioners and just do Black Guard and Witch Elves as plastic.

If they want to make a combo kit do Black Guard / The Endless.

[theJ]

Well... They do need a new book... They also need new core units... oh well...

I hope GW will do the sensible thing. If you ask me they could even do a dual HE/DE core kit. Besides icons, how different are they really?

They've got similarities, sure, but armourwise, they're still very different.

Dark Elves go for spikes and curves on their armour, note the helmets, shoulderpads and weapons, also note their use of chainmail where High Elves use Scale Mail. Other than the scales, High Elves prefer "smooth" armour, "straight" armour and poses (note the helmets), as well as far "cleaner" armour.

Unless one or both of the armies suffer a major change in style, not a single bit on one side would fit with the other, save perhaps faces, and even there, I'd still expect very different expressions, hairstyles, scarring and possibly ornaments (ear-rings?).