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    Quote Originally Posted by Azazyll View Post
    See, I prefer the older style to the newer ones. Ultimately less cartoony. But if they could just all be like Lelith I think we'd all be happy - ie a feminine face and reasonably-sized breasts.
    In fact, I think we need Diaz and Goodwin to do these. Alas, I'm not expecting them to. Do we even have a clue who's sculpting them?

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    Well.. Ghost said they "look like men" (still hoping for more of a description, btw ). As both Jes and Diaz have proven their ability to sculpt convincing women (I think?), it shouldn't be either of them...
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    I think it is a game of Chinese whispers Harry. Someone mentioned the difference in styles between Juan Diaz, who is still there, 6th edition deamonettes and the current plastics. This opened a whole can of worms that has been around since they plastics were released.
    OK This is why I was confused ... as Juan Diaz is defo still there ...


    .... and still sculpting gals.

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    I think "the issue" is has to do with a comparison of the plastic Daemonettes with the Juan Diaz metal Daemonettes that they replaced; the issue being that the plastics are not nearly as fine/feminine. Now, imagine new Witch Elves being worked on that have more in common with the plastic Daemonettes than with those metal Daemonettes, or even with the 40K Dark Eldar Wyches. Not that I've seen anything on the new stuff, but I think that a lack of fineness/femininity is "the issue" being referred to.
    Personally I liked the 4th edition muscle Marys with the strap on tentacles.

    Joking aside having seen Juan Diaz daemonette sculpts I am not sure why he wouldn't be first pick for Witch Elves.

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    Re: Some Dark Elf Rumours

    Wost comes to worst, I'll just keep the current metals as my front rankers and use plastic witch elves (or plastic Avatars of War girls) as the back rankers.
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    It just seems change for the sake of change. A real shame.

    It would be so much better if GW just attempted to replicate these metal elite units in plastic as accurately as posssible. The elves and daemons all had amazing metal models, why not seize upon that and produce the same in plastic (where possible?).
    In the case of the plastic core, GW looked at their past and made the daemonettes, bloodletters and horrors sort of a mix between the newer and older shapes.

    The Cold one knights and corsairs were similar. They both lost the silly 6th edition weapons and in the case if the knights, lost the battle cows for older style mounts and had options for both the 6th edition headpieces and the older style.

    I imagine future DE plastics will contain elements of the current and previous models.
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    Re: Some Dark Elf Rumours

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuatha Dar View Post
    New Witch Elves would be great, assuming that someone like Brian Nelson or Jes Goodwin sculpts them. They and others at the studio such as ummm...ummm, well, anyway, THEY can sculpt women really well.

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    Re: Some Dark Elf Rumours

    Quote Originally Posted by Malakai View Post
    Eldargal said she heard they looked bad. Shame, I wonder if I should buy some metal ones.
    Buy them if you like the models. That way, even if better ones come out, you will still have models you like the look of. And if the future ones are worse looking, you won't have to search the internet for metal ones...
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    I wouldn't be surprised if those kinds of models would take a turn for the worse. It seems like the naked manly minis are flourishing amongst GW (orcs, ogres and so on), while the feminine ones just seems to get more manly and covered up as well.

    I for one, hated the wyches for Dark Eldar. They seemed to me like some mutation between the necromunda Goliaths and elves, which just was very un-eldar to me. The new witches SHOULD be something closer to Lelith Hesperax when it comes to the build of body and looks though (Except not so much armor as Lelith has....... )

    Anyways, if GW lets us down, there's always other minis out there which can represent the deadly dark elf ladies. I for one crosses my fingers and hope that they will make something closer to the old daemonettes.

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    Re: Some Dark Elf Rumours

    @Omnichron:
    You're angry because warriors are wearing armour now?

    wow...

    Honestly, having your little ladies run around naked just ruins the immersion for me. Limited clothing? Sure, that works fine, but removing all of it "just because" doesn't actually add anything to the model - quite the opposite, in fact.

    /rant over, for now.
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    Re: Some Dark Elf Rumours

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    Joking aside I having seen Juan Diaz daemonette sculpts I am not sure why he wouldn't be first pick for Witch Elves.
    If he did Lelith then he has my vote but there is also Aragorn Marks (formerly at Rackham) who has joined or is joining GW. He might be interesting to get on the project too.
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    He did sculpt Lelith. I find his female sculpts variable, they are nice but the hairlines are too high, they look like they have croyden facelifts.
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    While Aragorn has done some nice models, I personally found his Soda Pop mini's to be weak and far from his best work. Though that one of them appears to have been done in 3D. Might mean we can expect some nice plastics from him

    Don't forget Jes Goodwin as always and Brian Nelson did sculpt the plastic dark elf sorceress.

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    Re: Some Dark Elf Rumours

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    OK This is why I was confused ... as Juan Diaz is defo still there ...
    Happy dance!

    Heart Juan's sculpts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omnichron View Post

    Anyways, if GW lets us down, there's always other minis out there which can represent the deadly dark elf ladies. I for one crosses my fingers and hope that they will make something closer to the old daemonettes.
    Indeed, if Avatars of War comes out with Witch Elves as I think has been rumored, and they are good, anything GW comes out with isn't nearly as important at that point.

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    Re: Some Dark Elf Rumours

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuatha Dar View Post
    Indeed, if Avatars of War comes out with Witch Elves as I think has been rumored, and they are good, anything GW comes out with isn't nearly as important at that point.

    Tuatha
    I've got all of Avatars of War Dark Elf sculpts and the hag queen is the least impressive of them. I hope they do a little better on their plastics.

    By the same token, GW would have to do pretty well with multipart plastics to match their own plastic DE sorceress. I'm not looking forward to green stuffing all the shoulder joints on either company's products.
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    Re: Some Dark Elf Rumours

    Wait...

    The guy's name is really Aragorn?
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    Wait...

    The guy's name is really Aragorn?
    That's what i was thinking too...

    Everytime i read "Aragorn this" or "Aragorn that" i feel strange....
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    I wouldn't be surprised if those kinds of models would take a turn for the worse. It seems like the naked manly minis are flourishing amongst GW (orcs, ogres and so on), while the feminine ones just seems to get more manly and covered up as well.
    Yes, I don't understand this. I don't know why my savage orcs are running around naked.

    I don't want a bunch of naked witch elves either, but I do want them to be attractive and not looking like men like the dark eldar wytches do.


    The Lelith dark eldar model is great. I actually bought one(metal) to be the general for my dark elves. I don't know why they can't be consistent.

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    Aragorn is his real name and he has been working for GW for a while.
    (But it will be a little while longer before we see very much of what he has done since his arrival).

    He is not the only 'new' sculptor they have taken on.
    Steve Buddle (Eolith/Spyglass) is back at GW and he is great at sculpting girls. (Naked or clothed. )
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    Re: Some Dark Elf Rumours

    new dark elf chariots that can make sth else too (unsure on what though)

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    Well, that's interesting and would have both HE and DE with a dual chariot kit. Although, for my life, I can't guess what can that "other thing" be, unless another type of chariot (pulled by different beasts or manned by different Elves).

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