Some Dark Elf Rumours

[Druchii Monkey]

...besides icons, how different are they really?

Now you're stirring...

[sulla]

Good news. It'll be interesting to see how these guys turn out. With the cold one knights, they added bits to make them in the style of the earlier models or the more recent 6th edition ones.

I hope the witch elves don't look like the originals If they based them on the current models, I don't see know if they could cast their hair in plastic. I don't see any other plastics as dynamic as that. Simpler swords like the corsairs, or better still, daggers would be cooler than the current silly swords they use. These guys should be the priority since Avatars of War are rumoured to be working on some now.

I wouldn't be surprised if executioners lost the funky axe-swords and went to more archetypal big, brutal axes. The current models are awesome; still my favourite unit in the entire game. But... They weren't really practical as metal models; too fragile. And they still wouldn't be practical as plastic. Also, they don't look thematically linked to the temple of Khaine in any way. We may see big changes there.

Black guard models should be based on Malekith's armour, however they design his next model. The current models are fairly uninspiring.

[giant stegadon]

It'll be interesting to see how different they can make Elf Witches from Eldar Wyches.

I think whenever DE gets an update it won't be all that surprising- metal goes plastic & the altar gets turned into a multi kit. The mystery will be if theres a new monster or unit. Anyone wanting new Spearmen is going to have to keeping hoping for another decade.

[popisdead]

Wouldn't surprise me a bit Dark Elves are set to be redone. They have a broken magic system, fair bit of metal infantry and quite out of date spearmen/xbow kit, also a curious lacking of shiny new nice character models.

[silverstu]

[QUOTE=giant stegadon;5917360]It'll be interesting to see how different they can make Elf Witches from Eldar Wyches.[QUOTE]


I'd hope they would do witch elves to a similar standard/aesthetic to the DE wyches [obviously with no males and guns...].

[silent25]

[QUOTE=silverstu;5917460][QUOTE=giant stegadon;5917360]It'll be interesting to see how different they can make Elf Witches from Eldar Wyches.

I'd hope they would do witch elves to a similar standard/aesthetic to the DE wyches [obviously with no males and guns...].

Oh there will still be guns. You seen the arms on the Wyches?

Couldn't resist.

[ExquisiteMonkey]

This is relatively good news, only held back by the potential dual Black Guard/Executioner kit - I pray to Khaine that this doesn't happen.
Thank goodness I'm bulking out both of my metal model units for xmas, so I'll at least have a unit of 30 of each of the current design.

On Witch Elves, even if they are not that crash hot, AoW are still working on their as far as I'm aware.
Could possibly even have two very different looking units, or mix n match for more individuality.
So this is a win.

On the unknown plastics - It won't be Corsairs or Knights, and it's unlikely to be the warriors.
I'm guessing it's a combo of a new unit and an old unit, possibly making a Cauldron of Blood and some new Khainite type thing (Avatar-esque) since the CoB is still metal.
Small possiblilty that it could be a chariot/CoB kit, but I doubt it as they don't quite mesh that well.
Won't be the Repeater Bolt Thrower as it finecast.
Could be shades, but I doubt they're popular enough to be converted.
Could be Dark Riders, but again, I doubt it, since they've undoubtably decreased in sales given the lesser impact of cavalry this edition.

[silverstu]

[QUOTE=silent25;5917609][QUOTE=silverstu;5917460]

It'll be interesting to see how different they can make Elf Witches from Eldar Wyches.

Oh there will still be guns. You seen the arms on the Wyches?

Couldn't resist.

Good Point-Well played!

[Tuatha Dar]

New Witch Elves would be great, assuming that someone like Brian Nelson or Jes Goodwin sculpts them. They and others at the studio such as ummm...ummm, well, anyway, THEY can sculpt women really well.

Tuatha

[Sinzaren]

Well I suppose I should start saving now then

Plastic Units do sound nice, I just hope they don't look too similar to the corsairs (I really don't like the pose on them). I'd love to see a large monster in there as well, possibly a large Hydra or Basilisk.

I hope with the new book they sort out the points costs as well. I know I can now have more minis in smaller games, but with the last book the cost of my army dropped way too much.

[AlexHolker]

This is two years too late for me - and even then, according to the OP the Witch Elves aren't as good as they should be anyway. Here's hoping AoW will quit playing coy soon, and give us some good quality, reasonably priced Witch Elves.

[WokeUpDead]

This is two years too late for me - and even then, according to the OP the Witch Elves aren't as good as they should be anyway. Here's hoping AoW will quit playing coy soon, and give us some good quality, reasonably priced Witch Elves.

dito.
if the AoW ones are nice, they are already bought. if the GW ones turn out nice, too, well.. the more, the merrier

[TowerGuard]

Not sure the OP meant that there would be one kit that can either make BG or Execs. I understood that sentance as his source saw a kit that he/she believes will be either for BG or Execs but they weren't sure.

[eldargal]

They are still very much WIP from what I understand, so if they are bad then hopefully they will improve them. Only one of the 'sources' (that sounds so pretentious) didn't like them.

This is two years too late for me - and even then, according to the OP the Witch Elves aren't as good as they should be anyway. Here's hoping AoW will quit playing coy soon, and give us some good quality, reasonably priced Witch Elves.

Yes. My source wasn't sure whether the CAD he saw was Black Guard or Executioners, I don't think there was any indication that it was a dual kit, he just didn't get a good enough look to work out what it was.

Not sure the OP meant that there would be one kit that can either make BG or Execs. I understood that sentance as his source saw a kit that he/she believes will be either for BG or Execs but they weren't sure.

[scarletsquig]

New Witch Elves would be great, assuming that someone like Brian Nelson or Jes Goodwin sculpts them. They and others at the studio such as ummm...ummm

Juan Diaz.

[Iniesta]

I wonder how they are gonna fix/nerf DE enough without pissing of all DE players? They really need to nerf DE a lot because now most models/units in that armybook are broken. The rest of the community are gonna welcome the nerf though. They probably introduce something new and big (new monster) and new sculpts?

[rodmillard]

I wonder how they are gonna fix/nerf DE enough without pissing of all DE players? They really need to nerf DE a lot because now most models/units in that armybook are broken. The rest of the community are gonna welcome the nerf though. They probably introduce something new and big (new monster) and new sculpts?

I would hazard a guess at existing units taking a nerf while they try and distract the current DE players with new shineys - then instead of being "NOOO! GW nerfed my army *ragequit*" it becomes "well of course they nerfed A, B and C, because they want to sell X, Y and Z"

EDIT: note that this model of army book design can (and probably will) be applied to everything from Vampire Counts onwards, not just DE [/cynicism]

[Symrivven]

Juan Diaz.

Indeed, Juan and Jes did such a great job on the DE (40K) range I hope they'll be involved with the new DE. Btw Jes made some comment after the DE (40K) release that he had enough of eldar for some time. Was this specifically eldar or pointy ears in general?

I wonder how they are gonna fix/nerf DE enough without pissing of all DE players? They really need to nerf DE a lot because now most models/units in that armybook are broken. The rest of the community are gonna welcome the nerf though. They probably introduce something new and big (new monster) and new sculpts?

No rules are mentioned here, just hints on upcoming sculpts, so I don't think your whining should belong here.

[ghost21]

the witch elves i saw were extremely disappointing... though a cult of khaine list nows a posability

[Daniel36]

Unless one or both of the armies suffer a major change in style, not a single bit on one side would fit with the other, save perhaps faces, and even there, I'd still expect very different expressions, hairstyles, scarring and possibly ornaments (ear-rings?).

Well... The spikes can be extra bitz. If you make the body the same (quite easily done, it's basically robes and armour plate). Give us two distinctly different head and shield options and you will be done...

They aren't THAT different, are they?