The Solent Concept Challenge, 40k and WFB, May 2012, Portsmouth

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The tournament points for a win, loss or a draw are as follows;
Win = 3 points
Draw = 1 point
Lose = 0 points
Your score card will have slots to record results for the turn 5, 6 and 7. It is important that you record the results for EVERY applicable turn. So, at the end of turn 5, decide who has won the game, and continue to turn 6.

This means you mark the box for turn 5, 6 and 7 with a win, draw or loss, as appicable.

There is no rolling for random game length.

You do not roll for random game length

If you do not reach the end of any of the above turns then you will score zero for the remaining turns.

If you do not reach the end of turns 5, 6 or 7 then you mark these boxes with '0' or 'Loss'

At the end of the game record VP’s as dictated in the 40k rulebook.

As page 300 BRB

This will give you three scores for every round, the sum of which will be your round score.

Add turns 5, 6 and 7 scores together (the sum of) which will be your score for the round

All of your round scores will decide overall placings. In the event of a draw VP’s will be used as a tie breaker.

Rounds 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 scores are added together (the sum of) and used to decide rankings and winners. In the event of a draw VP's will be used as a tie breaker.

You are the only person who has not understood the rules pack as is, apologies for the confusion though. Please take the time to read my blog, it does say that I am trying new ideas for this event before the 'serious' event in the summer.

[Malchek]

Thanks for clearing that up!

I like the idea alot I think you're onto something there However, I do think players whom don't finish all 7 turns will be unfairly penalised, especially as it might not even be their own fault (slow opponent, opponent with all footslogging army etc etc) However, will be interesting to see how it goes

[Peetus]

It's a really good attempt at a unique system, that will cause more hassle than good!

[LemonPotato]

Hi Chunk,

It states in the rulespack that certain Forgeworld models are allowed from Imperial Armour Apocalypse 2, as I do not have access to this book would you mind listing for me the units that this allows to be used?

On the subject of timing out I think it is nonsense, last year I played horde Orks with over 140 models and never took longer than 2 hours to complete a game. Armies are not slow, players are.

Thanks,

Chris Cook

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That does raise a good point, if you intend to use Forgeworld units then you must also have a copy of Imperial Armour Apocalype 2nd Ed. In the same was as you are expected to bring your own rulebook, codex, dice and tape measure. To summarise: no book, no Forgeworld!

Remember, these units must be suitably converted (judges decision) or the Forgeworld miniatures themselves.


Imperial Guard:
Taurus Squadron

Space Marines:
Contemptor Dreadnoughts (all variants)
Siege Dreadnoughts
Land Raider Achilles
Caestus Assault Ram
Lucius Pattern Dreadnought Drop Pod

Imperial:
Arvus Lighter
Valkyrie Sky Talon transport
Aquila Lander

Orks:
Big Sqiggoth
Warkopta
Grot Tank Mob
Grot Mega-Tank

Eldar:
Firestorm
Wraithseer
Hornet Squadron

Tyranids:
Malanthrope
Meiotic Spores
Stone Crusher Carnifex

Tau Empire:
Piranha TX-42
DX-6 Remora Drone Fighter
Commander R'alai

Necron:
Tomb Stalker

Dark Eldar:
Reaper
Raven
Tantalus

Chaos:
Contemptor Dreadnought
Giant Chaos Spawn
Spined Chaos Beast
Dreadclaw

I do not have the book to hand, this list may change later tonight.

[chunk]

...I do think players whom don't finish all 7 turns will be unfairly penalised, especially as it might not even be their own fault (slow opponent, opponent with all footslogging army etc etc)...

Ah yes, how to catch a slow player...

Should any player at my events wish, they may have use of a chess clock and use Death Clock method. The game will be played as per the rules pack. In the event of not finishing turn 7, the player who has used the most time will lose the turn the game finished on, and all those after.

The clock will run from when a player has 'control' of the game. Control is defined as during the players turn, until such time as he is interupted (game effects, allocating saves et all). The interuption switches the clock to the other player until such time as the interuption is concluded. The clock can only be switched between players, never stopped.

A judge will be on hand to fully explain this method, rather than lengthy debates here. In no way are players forced to use this method, in fact I predict no demand for it. But I have the clocks, and I find the ticking intense...

I personally love this method, I heartily recommend it for a challenging mission!

[t-tauri]

A number of bickering and offensive psots removed. Please remember the posting guidelines.

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Again, apologies to Malchek.

A Warhammer Fantasy Battle tournament has been added, in the spirit of me trying out new ideas. Please check the first post for details.

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The Solent Wargamers Club and Core-Games are proud to announce their first tournament of 2012.

This event will be the first mixed event I have held, with 40k and WFB tournaments at the same time. This is a concept event in which I want to trial new ideas and collect information about both systems to improve later events. As such I ask you to keep an open mind, but fully understand that most players strongly disagree with what is presented.

Another Warhammer 40,000 Challenge will be held in July for 1500 points, using a standard rules pack.

Places are limited to 40 players, between both tournaments. Payment is the only way to secure a place.

Please read the rules pack for more details, and I hope you can attend! The WFB side does not have a rules pack as yet, and I open to suggestions as to what you would like.

Warhammers 40,000
1) James Karch
2) Chris Cook
3) Simon Clayton
4) Alan Lee
5) Mike Lock
6) Callum Slater
7) Paul Cook
8) Aaron Hurst
9) James Goddard
10) Ross MacIntosh
11) Sharan Reddy
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Warhammer Fantasy Battle
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Correct me if I am wrong but if you divide 40 by 2 shouldn't you end up with 2 lots of 20? Not 19 and 21

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Ooops, my bad!

[Rupert Penwarden]

This will still be a max points tournament for Rankings HQ right?

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Results will be submitted to RHQ, but points are dependant on number of players when the results are submitted.

So I am going to say it wont be max points, but apx 80% there of.

[Fubar]

Shame it's drop to 20 players, Guess I'll wait for the one in July, that still will be 40 I assume?

[chunk]

8The July challenge will be 40 players, 1500 points with 5 rounds. I have the dates of the 28th and 29th July booked in, and expect to have the rules pack out in March.

[Peetus]

July challenge in May? Problem?

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July challenge in May? Problem?

Actually yes, as I was looking at completely the wrong dates! That could of been embarassing.

[Jerry Baboooona!]

can you please take my name off of the list of entrants?
unfortunately i will not be able to attend as i am at the warmachine and hordes UK masters that weekend!
good luck to everyone who attends

or SUTIN?!

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The WFB rules pack has been added to the first post.

Many thanks to Dan Heelan for allowing me to use the SCGT comp system.

[Chapter Master Seth]

Hi Chunk,

Can you please add

Peter Cooke
Alex Harrison
Michael Pike
John Humphries

To the list please

I will send my payment in the next few days

We should hopefully be coming to the July 1 also

Cheers

Peter

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I sure can, looking forward to seeing you guys there again.