Tau Rumours 3.0 (see first post for round-up)

[Slacker]

What he probably meant is that they have stopped production of (most) exiting kits to run down stock before the new book. Or at least, that was likely what he was told and he misinterpreted it. He likely also heard that the Tau Codex would be no longer available for order soon, which is exactly what happens when a new book is about to become available.

What this used to mean was to expect a new release within the next three to four months. That was our general way of knowing what was coming out when I ran our local gaming shop, anyway. GW releases its stock lists to independent retailers quarterly and generally only would run down stock in that time frame, not any further in advance.

What might be a good way to tell what's coming down the pipe is to see if any Black Templar stuff is similarly going 'out of production'-the problem there is that there's not a ton of BT kit.

[lantzkev]

yeah I'd bet on it just being not available to order now, which tends to be the trend before a release.

So things are looking good if that's true, for the Q1 release rumour

[Slacker]

Call it a gut feeling, but I would wager more on the Aprilish time frame than early Q1. Solely based on the trade releases and nothing more, mind you. I'll grab one from the shop on Monday and see if I can read between the lines at all.

[Mike3791]

Remember Harry gets info of stuff much later in the process than i do, he could be right (im stil annoyed about sisters of battle who will now sit done for at least 18 months if not longer)

theres bt, ig, and i think tyranid stuff done, and sw, if they plan on releasing no armies for 40k until 6th ed i can see it unfortunatley

Yea but Stickmonkey said the same thing, also if we see GW stop printing the current Tau codex like some people are claiming, then they may be sooner then expected.

[Kevlar]

I just talked to our local, independent games store owner. He *claimed* that his GW contact *claimed* that Tau was being discontinued. I kind of didn't believe it, and after reading this thread I *really* don't believe it. I just thought I'd mention it as this was the Tau rumor thread and, well, that was a rumor. I *assume* nobody's heard anything similar. (?)


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Hopefully just discontinuing the metals as they move to finecast, as has been done with several armies already.

[Harry]

Remember Harry gets info of stuff much later in the process than i do, he could be right (im stil annoyed about sisters of battle who will now sit done for at least 18 months if not longer)

theres bt, ig, and i think tyranid stuff done, and sw, if they plan on releasing no armies for 40k until 6th ed i can see it unfortunatley

I hear scraps at different stages ... I try not to get too far ahead.

What happened with Sisters of Battle.
I heard about them .... well, years ago and they were right there with Grey Knights an Necrons .... how did they end up as a WD release? and Why sit on them till 2013/14?

I can confirm there is stuff done for BT, IG, Nids and SW and have also heard about stuff for Sisters of Battle, DA, Chaos, Eldar, Dark Eldar and Tau. (so that is just about all of them isn't it?) What is less clear is when they plan to release it all.

Models sitting around finished does not mean they are going to get released any time soon.

But then I don't devote much time to trying to keep it straight the way I do with Fantasy.

Ok you two, so if I understand you somewhat correctly, then it "might" look like this:

The next CODEX is either Tau or Black Templar (tendency towards Tau), but before that there will be (model) releases for up to 5 different 40k armies.

"Logically", that comes down to:
- The "last" Dark Eldar wave
- Imperial Guard (Hydras and Veterans)
- Necron second wave
- Tyranids (as they need a ton of stuff since their release)
- Eldar (has Harry mentioned it)

As the Codex Tau is rumored to be before the 6th edition (which it self comes around July/August), that gives us a 3-6 month window for those releases....

Could you please confirm/deny the accuracy of this "summary"?

I heard that Chaos was the first 6th edition Codex but I am not sure if it comes just before or just after.
(Or even if that is accurate)

Originally I did have Tau down for the first half of the year based one when I first heard about them (Well over a year ago now) but it always had a ? against it as I had not heard anything concrete since and then I got the impression at GD there was still some work to do on the models .... so given lead times March/April was doable but the earliest possible date and never seemed very likely.

All I have to go on is the order I hear about things ... I never get a schedule or hear release dates.

So going back quite a way the order I heard about things was:
Tyranids, Blood Angels, Grey Knights, Sisters of Battle, Necrons, More Nids, Black Templar, Tau, Chaos, More Eldar, More Space Wolves, More Dark Angels.

Dark Eldar got thrown in to the mix as they were a back burner project and I couldn't work out for a while whether they were coming before or after Grey Knights ... but eventually got that sorted.... along with two scheduled waves.

So whilst it is unlikely the order will be exactly the same and it is unclear which will be full army releases and which just more models .... (although you can take a pretty good guess) This is kind of the order I expect to see some stuff for these armies.

I had Tau and BT down before Chaos because I heard about models for them before I heard about anything for Chaos BUT just because a project starts before does not mean it will automatically finish before.

I just talked to our local, independent games store owner. He *claimed* that his GW contact *claimed* that Tau was being discontinued. I kind of didn't believe it, and after reading this thread I *really* don't believe it. I just thought I'd mention it as this was the Tau rumor thread and, well, that was a rumor. I *assume* nobody's heard anything similar. (?)[/url]

This is obviously not correct as the the studio has been working on Tau for over 18 months.

I am sure Tau are coming in next year ... just think they are a good bit later than Q1/2 as seems to be widely thought.

Again ... I could be completely wrong about this.

[Tokamak]

I hope the barracuda won't be a carbon-copy. I don't particularly like the FW one. It's really mundane compared to the devilfish.

theres bt, ig, and i think tyranid stuff don

Tervigon?

[The Dude]

I can confirm there is stuff done for BT, IG, Nids and SW and have also heard about stuff for Sisters of Battle, DA, Chaos, Eldar, Dark Eldar and Tau. (so that is just about all of them isn't it?) What is less clear is when they plan to release it all.

It'd be nice if they threw everyone a bone with 6th

[Arijharn]

So the morale of the story then is for me to resist the urge of buying the Tau Empire codex then?

It's strange (dare I say it - dishonest?) really because my local GW store actually had the old Codex: Necrons army book in stock up to the day the latest edition came out. Of course, I didn't try to buy it (mainly because of Warseer funnily enough with it's rumour-mongering) but it seems to me that any customer who bought this before the new version came out seems to be a douche move for the company to pull, I wonder how many people it would actually successfully drive out.

I'm definitely looking forward to the new Tau, I've been resisting it's lure for so long now.

[Cultist of Sooty]

What happened with Sisters of Battle.

GW found out that I like them. Sorry, everyone, it's my fault. My favourite 40K stuff down the years? Sisters, Squats, Genestealer Cults, Space Slann, Zoats, Inquisition, Lost & the Damned.

GW just don't want me to have nice things.


I do find the Tau quite interesting, and will do even more if they make the battlesuits look more like the FW ones and less blocky than they are now. I'm scared to say it out loud, though, you never know what will happen if GW find out I like them...

[Tastyfish]

Saving a "Medusa" wave up for the release of 6th ed makes a lot of sense to me (especially with "New Edition, New Army" alongside a shiny new unit), but that's obviously just speculation. It does look like a really busy (and good!) year for 40K though so I wouldn't be surprised if they took a break from the 'traditional' wave structure to generate interest amongst all the players in the run up to 6th ed.

[Tokamak]

it seems to me that any customer who bought this before the new version came out seems to be a douche move for the company to pull, I wonder how many people it would actually successfully drive out.

People can handle it. Look at all the Iphone users

[Sildani]

Wow, a wall o' text from Harry! Thanks for that!

[Tokamak]

I just talked to our local, independent games store owner. He *claimed* that his GW contact *claimed* that Tau was being discontinued.

Well duh, a large part of the Tau line is being discontinued, like the krootox and vespid and other metals. GW employees at the lower end of the ladder don't have the clearest vision and interpret that as that the army is being ceased.

[iosu1978]

So the morale of the story then is for me to resist the urge of buying the Tau Empire codex then?

It's strange (dare I say it - dishonest?) really because my local GW store actually had the old Codex: Necrons army book in stock up to the day the latest edition came out. Of course, I didn't try to buy it (mainly because of Warseer funnily enough with it's rumour-mongering) but it seems to me that any customer who bought this before the new version came out seems to be a douche move for the company to pull, I wonder how many people it would actually successfully drive out.

I'm definitely looking forward to the new Tau, I've been resisting it's lure for so long now.

Don´t, urges are good. On a serious note, i very much doubt teh "mechanics" of the army are going to be changed massively and besides we dotn know yet for sure when they going to be released, in the mean time you can get a few battles, know the scent of teh army and then expand it.

-Please Harry or Ghost21, any more news on the "other race"

[otakuzoku]

the codex you can probably pick up used cheap. if your going to play TAU buy the battle force as its cheap and other that the crisis suit (there is only one in the box) the rest of the models should stay the same and give you ample time to have the army painted

[Corporeal]

can't wait to add the new sculpts to the collection. It'll add a nice feel to the already decent army i've built already; four old suits and a few new ones will look really well I think, and add a bit of flavour to the army. The old vets and the new recruits on the line together, backed up by a full compliment of hammerhead tanks.

It'll be like a modern day fighting force.

[MajorWesJanson]

I hope the barracuda won't be a carbon-copy. I don't particularly like the FW one. It's really mundane compared to the devilfish.


Tervigon?

I hope the Barracuda is a copy, like the Valk or Piranha, just with a few more options- railgun instead of ion cannon, few more weapon options for the turrets, can add a markerlight in the nose.

Last I recall, the nid wave was suggested to be a plastic Tervigon/tyrannofex, plastic harpy/new unit, plastic hive tyrant (with options for swarmlord), and metal/finecast ymgarl stealer. Less likely but a reasonable kit would be a plastic hive/tyrant guard box of 3 models.

[Tokamak]

That sounds like a huge wave.

[MajorWesJanson]

That sounds like a huge wave.

3 plastic kits and a finecast model (maybe a finecast doom of malan'tai as well) is a big wave, but not a gigantic one.

Back to Tau-
So ghost pretty much confirmed my guess of crisis suits being a 3 box with parts for 1 broadside, 1 commander, and maybe 1 sniper suit in the box.