New Citadel Paints (Was Gossip - GW paints to be discontinued in march)

[M'ichal]

Sorry if this has been said before, but have they solved the problem the last lot had with the lids not staying open?
It's always such a pain trying to paint with the lids constantly half closing, really slows the process down.

you should probably transger the paint onto a pallette to slow drying of the pot...

It's been a few days but I thought the pots I was trying out in the store did not stay open? I might be wrong. Also, are the lids really different in terms of the seal? I picked up a few pots from the existing range and they seemed similar to demo pots of the new range. Did I miss something?

[Mastodon]

There are new lids on the majority of the pots, but some still have the old style due to them being unable to get enough of the new ones in quick enough.

And the dry paints will take the most practice out of all of them. Writing them off after one go is a bit of a snap judgement, the first time I used it I treated it like I was just drybrushing with the old style paints and didnt think much of it.

However using a lot less on the brush, and really working it into the bristles on a piece of kitchen towel, it gives a really nice, blended finish very very quickly.

[Spectrar Ghost]

The shades and glazes had new pots that stayed open, the remainder did not. Looks like I'll always know where my brush cover is...

[zoggin-eck]

naaa I disagree there, the textures are not good enough for basing on their own. you still need the old sand and paint etc... other wise it just looks too one dimensional imo. Though I have only treid teh sandy colour one. There is a snow one as well i believe and that could be interesting.

For me, the trouble is that people were applying it in one go, then calling the base finished "wow, so easy!" thye would cry (but it looks awful!). Give the textured paint a drybrush of a lighter colour, or even paint black and then your own colours, and it's the same as sand, but with a little variation to they texture (and easier to avoid "sinking in sand syndrome").

Drys: I really don't like these, and won't be getting any. I understand what GW tried to do; I've noticed partly dried paints are easier to drybrush with too. But they are too gummy to use effectively. Negative.

Hmm, to me the "gummyness" is not an issue, as it's meant to be put onto a pallete and flattened out, the same as normal drybrushing, not applied to the model still gummy. The effect works well when almost all the paint is brushed off, and applied lightly, with progressive coats. Where it will be useless is when people use "wet drybrush" techniques, and I guess I'll just use normal paint when I don't want it totally dry.

[Born Again]

Are they true pinks? Can't believe I missed that. Can't check at the moment, away from a computer for the next several hours.

I haven't seen them in person, but from the website they are certainly pink, but not as light as the Drybrush colour. I would think that mixing them with a little white is easier than trying to water down the drybrush colour though, if you want something lighter.

[M'ichal]

For me, the trouble is that people were applying it in one go, then calling the base finished "wow, so easy!" thye would cry (but it looks awful!). Give the textured paint a drybrush of a lighter colour, or even paint black and then your own colours, and it's the same as sand, but with a little variation to they texture (and easier to avoid "sinking in sand syndrome").

hmmm...how about sand AND texture? might be interesting results

[Mastodon]

The shades and glazes had new pots that stayed open, the remainder did not. Looks like I'll always know where my brush cover is...

All of the new pots will have the new lid eventually. They had a problem with getting enough of the new version at the factory to get enough made for release apparently.

[Spectrar Ghost]

Good info. The new pots are a step forward from the old. Seem to seal better, and stay open.

[Mastodon]

Good info. The new pots are a step forward from the old. Seem to seal better, and stay open.

More importantly they have a crocodile tooth seal so they're completely air tight on the shelf. Not going to get any pots that have been at the back of the rack for 4 years and gone a bit weird.

[Autumn Leaves]

I haven't seen them in person, but from the website they are certainly pink, but not as light as the Drybrush colour. I would think that mixing them with a little white is easier than trying to water down the drybrush colour though, if you want something lighter.

There is no pink.
You will still have to go to another paint range for a decent pink.
Or get some of the old tentacle pink on eBay.

[stahly]

If you look for a true pink, use Squid Pink from VGC. Excellent paint and a very close match to old Tentacle Pink. If you need to go even lighter, use Carneval Pink from Formula P3, which also makes a great highlighting colour for Squid Pink.

[paspinall]

There is no pink.
You will still have to go to another paint range for a decent pink.
Or get some of the old tentacle pink on eBay.

Because Pink Horror and Emperor's children arent pinks at all ?

[Hendarion]

Coat D'arms has a nice shocking pink

[Born Again]

There is no pink.
You will still have to go to another paint range for a decent pink.
Or get some of the old tentacle pink on eBay.

No, unless my monitor is all kinds of messed up (Warseer is meant to be black and blue, right?) then I'm pretty sure there are pinks. Are they the shade of pink you want? Maybe not, but there are pinks. They even made a point of mentioning how there were pinks in the range again when the paints launched.

[stahly]

I'd say Pink Horror and Emporer's Children are magenta and light magenta paints. Changeling Pink is a true pink, but only a Drybrush paint. This seems to be a problem of the new range in general - most the lightest tones can only be found in the Dry Compounds, unsuitable for regular painting. So for that final extreme highlight you still need to mix paints, unless you want to ruin your carefully built up paintjob with dusty drybrushed highlights.

[Autumn Leaves]

Therre is no pink in the GW paint range.
Get over it.
The nearest they have to a genuine pink is in the dry section but it's only a dry brush paint.
I can do better than your monitor BA, I've seen the paints and tested them and yes, the base range is superb and the layer range is ok and the washes are excellent but there is NO PINK in the regular paint range.
Have you got it yet ???????

[xxRavenxx]

Therre is no pink in the GW paint range.
Get over it.
The nearest they have to a genuine pink is in the dry section but it's only a dry brush paint.

This is a pink though. Its not a pale pink, but it is definately a pink.

It does seem a little odd that they don't have a pale pink in their range, but to say they have no pinks at all is wrong. Its just a deep colour. Also, for a painter of any reasonable experience, mixing a pot of white with their pink would yield a similar colour to tentacle pink. So that's always on the cards, if not a perfect solution.

[spaint2k]

This seems to be a problem of the new range in general - most the lightest tones can only be found in the Dry Compounds, unsuitable for regular painting.

Can anyone confirm that the dry paints are no good for regular painting? If you add matt medium, or even water, can you restore them to some measure of usefulness?

[Codsticker]

I read a review elsewhere in which the writer attempted to turn the dry paints into a suitable basecoat and came to the conclusion that it would not work.

[BramGaunt]

There is no pink.
You will still have to go to another paint range for a decent pink.
Or get some of the old tentacle pink on eBay.

I worked with Emperors Children today. It's pink. Slightly darker than tentacle, but if brushed with Changeling pink... looks awesome.

I also tried the complete dry range. Golden Griffon is just pure gold.