Ask the Longbeards.

[The Pale Lady]

Is there any info at all on where Silver Pinnacle is? The home of Neferata...more detailed than the Worlds Edge Mountains...?

[Rathgar]

Is there any info at all on where Silver Pinnacle is? The home of Neferata...more detailed than the Worlds Edge Mountains...?

[Vampire Counts: Lahmians]

Err… “a remote area in the world edge mountains”. My best guess from the cryptic clues is that is somewhere in the vicinity of Mt. Silverspear and Mt. Gunbad, close to the Agrildrtri. It was never a big Dwarfhold, so it’s not surprising it isn’t marked.

[EvC]

Try looking on the big picture of all the Vampire locales in the Vampire Counts book: there's a Lahmian symbol near Peak Pass. Since there are no other Lahmian symbols in those mountains, that's gotta be it.

[The Pale Lady]

Cheers EvC, thats good logic, I like it

[Bubble Ghost]

Not necessarily. It could equally have been put in at random, an unnamed location, because the map wasn't necessarily created in conjunction with all the background. Without knowing what the artist knew, you can't really be sure.

[Rathgar]

Not necessarily. It could equally have been put in at random, an unnamed location, because the map wasn't necessarily created in conjunction with all the background. Without knowing what the artist knew, you can't really be sure.

Yer, I was going to pipe up with a similar argument but didn’t want to come across as arrogant (so I assumed I was wrong ). I suggested location based on areas of high silver deposits and proximity to abandoned Dwarfholds.

[EvC]

Well, it doesn't explicitly say listed on it that it's the Silver Pinnacle, but it's the only possible place listed that could be its location according to the current fluff... I would say it was necessarily created with the background in mind (Since Silver Pinnacle has existed since before 6th edition, and it's the only major named Lahmian stronghold), but it could equally turn out that THE Silver Pinnacle exists somewhere outside the map, and that the place shown on the map is another place where the Lahmians have influence.

[Satan]

Trying to get some fluff for my WE army - where can I find information on wood elves living outside of Athel loren or the forest in Nordland? Any information is good, even small snippets such as from the old Doomstones campaign-books for WFRP.

[N0-1_H3r3]

Trying to get some fluff for my WE army - where can I find information on wood elves living outside of Athel loren or the forest in Nordland? Any information is good, even small snippets such as from the old Doomstones campaign-books for WFRP.

There are some bits and pieces in Sigmar's Heirs, for WFRP - in the sections on Elves living in the Empire, and in the section on Nordland itself.

That said, they aren't technically Wood Elves, at least not in the same way the Elves of Athel Loren are Wood Elves. The culture of the Asrai (those Elves from Loren) is altered by merit of the unique nature of Loren itself; Elves dwelling in other forests of the Old World are better described as forest-dwelling expatriate High Elves.

[Bubble Ghost]

but it could equally turn out that THE Silver Pinnacle exists somewhere outside the map, and that the place shown on the map is another place where the Lahmians have influence.

That's what I meant.

[Rathgar]

[wood elves]

That said, they aren't technically Wood Elves, at least not in the same way the Elves of Athel Loren are Wood Elves. The culture of the Asrai (those Elves from Loren) is altered by merit of the unique nature of Loren itself; Elves dwelling in other forests of the Old World are better described as forest-dwelling expatriate High Elves.

No, they’re Wood Elves. You’re correct in saying that they aren’t like the denizens of Loren, in that the forests they call home don’t screw with their brains to the same extent. But they’re more like them that they are High Elves.

To answer your question Satan, the main centre of wood elf population outside of The Great Forest itself is Laurelorn, technically a part of Norland. It has a healthy Elven population and there are rummors of a “city of glass” deep within it. There was a WFRP v1 book in the pipeline for it, but it died when Hogshead dropped it. However, this info is online so I can link you if you like.

Other than that; there are small Wood Elf settlements throughout the Empire. They hang out in little groups called Kithbands and keep themselves to themselves.

[RobC]

Ooh, linky!

Yeah, those wood elves; all they do is hang around on the highways with their hoods up, menacing passers-by with pithy insults and occasional random death. Bunch of troublemakers if ever there was one...

[Satan]

Ok, thanks alot. If you don't mind Rathgar, I'd be delighted if you'd forward that link to me. I was thinking of basing my wood elves on the opposite side of the grey mountains, following an emigration from Athel loren when the need to battle beastmen on a wider front became apparent. I'm trying to join nordic (but some celtic as well) elements (Alfer, The Sidhé living under hills, Fylgjor etc etc) with a martial society and forest spirits as well - using some form of magical inhibition (like putting the spirits themselves in a bottle) or other.
Suggestions for improvement are welcome, but I don't want to derail your thread.

Fylgja:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fylgja
Sidhé:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidhe
Alf:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%81lfar

Alfer - it's never been clearly defined what they were, but because of the names they're often associated with elves, and in truth they do have many similiarities with the sidhé, but their traits were never fully explored in classic nordic mythology. We know for a fact that they were supposed to live in forests and below ground in burrows (Which some rural people in scandinavia did up until the 19th/20th century).

I'm trying to reinforce the classical faery image, much like that presented in Jonathan Strange. If anyone has further suggestions on how to do this - modelling as well as fluff, don't hesitate to PM me.

[Rathgar]

[Wood Elves]

http://www.madalfred.darcore.net/

scroll down a bit on the articles page till you get to “Laurelorn Elves”.

[Sylass]

Anyone interested in compiling the first batch of entries for the main article?

Just needs to be a text with titles for each section posted here. A PM would be nice once it's done, so that I can copy it to the front page.

Something like this?

[High Elves]

Question: Are the High Elves really Aliens?

Answer: No.

-----

Question: Are you sure the High Elves aren't Aliens?

Answer: Yes.

(link: www.warseer.com)

[Wood Elves]

Question: What about Wood Elves then? Are they Aliens?

Answer: *WHACK!*

Thanks in advance.



*update*
Thanks to Rathgar, I recieved the first compilation of questions & answers posted up to this post.

[N0-1_H3r3]

No, they’re Wood Elves. You’re correct in saying that they aren’t like the denizens of Loren, in that the forests they call home don’t screw with their brains to the same extent. But they’re more like them that they are High Elves.

That's subjective, especially as very little info actually exists for them - though certainly, they're not Asrai, and could theoretically be described as an entirely seperate culture of Elves, distinct from the Asur, Asrai or Druchii.

[RobC]

Ha - like the humans would distinguish between one set of wood elves and another!

[N0-1_H3r3]

Ha - like the humans would distinguish between one set of wood elves and another!

Or, indeed, one set of Elves and another. Even the Dwarfs, who've coexisted with the Elves (with varying levels of peace and tolerance) for about five thousand years, have trouble telling a Druchii from an Asur... as demonstrated by the War of Vengeance.

[RobC]

That's all high elf propaganda and you know it! The true story is that the dwarfs and the elves simply could not live together - their personalities are too dissimilar and both have a streak of arrogance wider than a wide thing.

Or at least, that's how it should be. Heaven forbid the high elves did anything wrong...

[N0-1_H3r3]

That's all high elf propaganda and you know it! The true story is that the dwarfs and the elves simply could not live together - their personalities are too dissimilar and both have a streak of arrogance wider than a wide thing.

Or at least, that's how it should be. Heaven forbid the high elves did anything wrong...

Well, that's true regardless of interpretation. But the Dark Elves sparked it off... it could have been stopped at that if the two races had been able to cooperate or deal with things in a civilised manner... as opposed to shaving the Dwarf ambassador...