The KFF went back to 5+ for vehicles (we all knew that would happen), meks can opt to heal 1 hull point instead of weap destroyed or immob, the deff rolla has been errata'ed to work against vehicles, not just faq 'ed.
Can models on bikes get an extra attack for 2 hand weapons? Regardless of the answer bike characters got a significant boost against instant death from fists and meltas. Obliterators have true T5 again too! Nice.
Ok I found something that is a huuuuge possible cheese. But I need you guys to think if it is possible.
So Necron CCB got its "Sweep" rule wich allows a charachter on top to make 3 passing attacks.
Then in 6th ed in got Chariot unit type which among other things gives it a "Sweeping attack" USR allowing the Char on top to make passing attacks equal to his profile.
Necron FAQ does not state anything like "Page 52: Necron Catacomb Command Barge :Ignore Sweep Special Rule". And so I started to wonder is it possible to make 6 attacks with an Overlord on the CCB?
I know its bending, streching etc. but what do you think?
This may be a time where you invoke the phrase "If you have to ask..."Originally Posted by Daoshifu
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Which codex are you using? That's not in mine...Obliterators have true T5 again too! Nice.
What i meant is to ask if you guys see or know of anything in the rules that would prevent that. Aside of course of common sense.
I don't have the rules to hand so it may be possible, however until it is clear that won't be my interpretation. You never know - they may decide they are meant to be badass and allow it.
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As far as assaulting vehicles, is there any difference between assaulting a Rhino moving 3" and a Wave Serpent Moving 24"? I see they have WS now but does movement modify anything anymore?
As far as I know if a vehicle moved it has WS1 if it didn't move it has WS0 (except walkers). You penetrate rear armor (except walkers). At the end of combat you count each glance as 1 wound and each pen as 2 wounds.
Thats all I could find.
So little warlocks can issue challenges? lol cool.
So if a Warlock challenges Dante and he accepts and wins the duel 3-0, do those wounds count as part of the overall battle to determine which side wins?
If movement doesn't help skimmers avoid CC attacks and they just get walloped in their back armor as easily as if they were parked, that's utter crap.
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If you are going to those depths to rules lawyer then you are desparate indeed - it is clearly not the intent and that would be a constructive attempt to break the rules. Personally if you were playing me or in a tournament I was running I would tell you to GTFO. I am not going to even look at rules, because if a rules arguement starts it doesn't say it doesn't then it time to switch off and accept your playing one of 'those' gamers
Oh. Whoops. I don't have my dex on me but I totally thought they were still 4(5).At least people might consider bike characters now for the extra T.
You know if you dont want tot start with "it does not say it doesn't" I may as well stick with " I apply what I see. so I see 2 different rules on the same model from two different sources. and I think of it as of getting +1 save from the weave item and +1 save from being on a chariot (not for OL of course as it would take him below 2+). Two different rules on the same model from two different sources.
I'm not saying I'll use it I'm just saying I stpotted it and I know pleanty of guys that will use it along with +1 attack for Spyders or power axe for praetorians.
I need to ask you a question about the fearless rule.
In the french book we got something more :
"Fearless units can't have more than 5+ cover save."
Is there something like that somewhere in the UK version ?
It's disturbing because a lot of units like, vindicares, lictors, imperial statue, night fight (and more) don't make sense anymore.
Is there someone with another language (like spanish, german or italian) who can confirm this ?
Thank you.
I see no such clause under the Fearless entry on page 35. I also haven't seen that in the cover rules.
I can give you a scan of the french paragraph if you need.
Must be a miss print.
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A missprint ? who ?
Something forgot from the original version ?
Something wrongly translated from an invisible paragraph ?
Here both of the complete paragraph, one from the french book (so you can see the last part with the cover save problem), and the original (complete) without the cover save part.
Another language will help us so much
Last edited by Iblitz; 01-07-2012 at 14:06.
What does two-handed on melee weapons do? Is it just purely you can't use anything else with them?
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