Hasn't been mentioned, no, but that would be kinda cool. Back when 5th was close to release, the same thing was rumoured, though. Could be rumour reverb, or rumor necromancy. Either way, I like the idea of battle formations / legendary units in the basic game rather than just in Apoc.Originally Posted by Mikial
GW seems to me to be like... a trireme. One that's caught in a maelstrom, with accountants at the oars all on one side pulling for money, and gamers on the other pulling to get out of the maelstrom... and where Captain Jervis is sipping tea at the wheel, looking aft, thinking he's standing at the bow looking forward, with a wispy smile and a vacantly amused expression on his face, oblivious to it all. Who wins in the end... the gamers, or the accountants?
Neither. The maelstrom wins.
That was the belief with the 'leaked' 6th ed rules; but their has been word that Apocalypse will get an update following 6th, probably in 2013.
That sucks. I mean, I figured that'd be roughly the case, but still.
GW seems to me to be like... a trireme. One that's caught in a maelstrom, with accountants at the oars all on one side pulling for money, and gamers on the other pulling to get out of the maelstrom... and where Captain Jervis is sipping tea at the wheel, looking aft, thinking he's standing at the bow looking forward, with a wispy smile and a vacantly amused expression on his face, oblivious to it all. Who wins in the end... the gamers, or the accountants?
Neither. The maelstrom wins.
I like apoc and all (well, sorta. It's usually pretty bad actually) but i'd hate for it to become the norm for games.
It's fun but far from balanced. I'm not much on tournaments but GW could include the rules for Apoc but allow make it optional.... meh, I guess that would be no different than it is now... never mind...
If both modes of play are in the same book, essentially as small Vs. Large scale conflicts, then I think it would be a great Idea.
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Even if it's built into the main rules, I doubt it'd become the "norm". I'd expect that the game would simply be built so that it was more scalable and include assets and superheavies as a kind of narrative thing (agreed to by both players, etc.) for any size game.
Considering the format of the 8th ed fantasy book I strongly suspect that appocalypse will be in the book but in the optional rules section following the core and special rules for normal play.
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Isn't Storm of Magic the Fantasy equivalent? That was a separate book.
Yup SoM is apoc style for Fantasy and it is a seperate book, not sure where he got that it is in the main rulebook! Unless I have totally missed it lol
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Storm of Magic may be a separate book. However, I didn't mention that. I was referring to the section of additional and optional rules and scenarios in the book after the core and special rules. For example there are campaigns and scenarios with allies, mercenaries, raids etc.Yup SoM is apoc style for Fantasy and it is a seperate book, not sure where he got that it is in the main rulebook! Unless I have totally missed it lol
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Storm of magic is one of potentially a number of optional rule expansions to be added on to the main rules as players see fit.
Some of the 40k rumours have suggested a similar system for 40k. It appears logical from these that there will be a core rule section for 40k and then, for example, rules or suggestions for using superheavy vehicles might be later in the book for use should players wish to do so. There could also be rules for cityfight, campaigns, special scenarios later in the book or in subsequently released add ons like storm of magic.
If fantasy is anything to go by there is likely to be a move away from focusing primarily on a tournament appropriate rule set toward a set of core rules with rules and encouragement for players to try out alternative ways of playing as they see fit.
As for appocalypse remaining separate, it may well do. However, there really isn't that much substance to the rules anyway if you ignore the data sheets themselves, so I can't believe they won't be able to condense them into 20 pages or possibly far less. I can see a real attraction for them to be in the book in order to encourage more people to go out and buy baneblades etc.
Heard one from a new source, in that the 6th edition has been posponed, possibly for as long as 12 months and that the flyers are "in leiu of". This is down to something happening with in production.
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Problems in production of a book? Hardly. I don't believe for a second that 6th is postponed. Something as big as that isn't just released on a whim.
I don't buy it. Delaying 6th edition would tank the entire year, seeing as how the Starter Set and Chaos releases would depend on it. Any business worth its salt would rather throw money at any production problems to fix them rather than nuke its sales numbers.
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As much as I don't believe this recent crop of rumors I definitely don't believe this one. It seems like someone is trolling you even more than the other rumors seem like the community is being trolled.
I can't imagine a problem so sudden they would choose to delay 6th for a year and leave a year long gap between codexes.
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Yeah, I'd be much more convinced of a strategic decision to do so than a manufacturing issue
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While delaying 6th Ed seems unlikely, it's now mid may and we don't actually have a clue what's in the ruleset. we know the box contents for September but in terms of rules we know zip, other than the leaked PDF which may or may not be real.
The Chaos and Tau threads while filled with wish listing seem to have more concrete data than 6th ed so:
Either:
6th Ed is on it's way and rumour and leak control is amazingly good, this close to a release the book must have been printed which means enough people would have play tested that a leak of snippets of the final rule set could not be traced
OR
as above but not play tested so a smaller pool of people and everybody's keeping stum.
OR
the original 6th Ed was WH40k v3.4 essentially tweaking the things that didn't work in 5th ed and reinstating some of the 3rd/4th ed rules, then the Fan made leaked PDF came out and enough people went actually this is a rather good ruleset and GW went bugger it is and had to partially redesign 6th ed with this in mind. by the time the leaked PDF came out all the early rumourmongers; Stickmonkey, Hastings, Harry had all said 6th Ed mid 2012 and they were correct with the information they had at the time.
I don't know which of the 3 it is but this seems to boil down the current lack of any non boxed set rumours.
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Well, if the rulebook releases in July as suspected, then we should see something about special edition book/bag/dice bundles pre-orders sometime in June. I mean, there were two or three versions of the WHFB 8th ed book that were up for pre-orders before that little gem released. We're almost there guys. Let's not give up now!
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