WarSeer Official Discussion of the 'leaked' 6th Ed Rule Set

[Charax]

It should stay for another month or so, till we have time to see what it got wrong/right

[Wrath]

I doubt we'll ever know for certain. Some things panned out, others didn't, at the very least we got something to mull over, and maybe house rule (really wish bidding had made it!)

I really liked the Evasion rules.

Directed attacks made it in.

[Lexington]

It was mentioned a while back that some people (including Harry I think) knew who the creators of this were, but refused to divulge.

Now that we know it's not valid...can the secret be revealed?

Erm. Looking at the 6th Ed we've got in front of us, the creators of the "Pancake" edition seem to be...the Games Workshop Studio. Right? This thing's clearly an early draft of the real 6th Ed rules. With so many parallels in scope, direction and specific rules, there's no way it's coincidence.

[Commissar Merces]

Erm. Looking at the 6th Ed we've got in front of us, the creators of the "Pancake" edition seem to be...the Games Workshop Studio. Right? This thing's clearly an early draft of the real 6th Ed rules. With so many parallels in scope, direction and specific rules, there's no way it's coincidence.

Having the rulebook in my hands now, I completely agree. Pancake is the first generation 6th ed.

[MajorWesJanson]

Yeah, it looks like Pancake was an attempt to fully reboot the game, like 2nd to 3rd, but it went too far. 6th takes a lot of the good elements from Pancake, kept the good elements from 5th, and put them together, then streamlined it. Pancake had the problem of too many Special Rules for everything. It was like a Cruddace codex.

Would have liked to see a return of the move stat though.

[ogretyrant]

So did the mods actually know what was going on, or did there bosses.... I mean GW tell them what there position was going to be on the subject?

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[Wintermute]

So did the mods actually know what was going on, or did there bosses.... I mean GW tell them what there position was going to be on the subject?

GW are not our bosses and there was no communication between GW and WarSeer on this matter at all.

The answer to your question can be found in my opening post of this thread, which was:

Games Workshop are making it known that the 'leaked' 6th Ed Rules pdf is a hoax.

We at Warseer were reluctant to discuss the leaked pdf because we very quickly recognised it for what it truly was.

Now GW has distanced itself from 'leaked document, we now are happy for it to be discussed on WarSeer, but only in this thread.

Wintermute

[Kelanen]

I call big fat lie from GW on the hoax.

Unless someone has a very good crystal ball, it got far too much stuff right. This was an earlier beta of 6th, I have not the slightest doubt.

[Vovin]

Wintermute's post was very carefully worded. He doesn't say that the Warseer team recognized the pancake edition as a hoax. He avoids to specify what the mods knew about the origin of the leak.

This is how I have read the statement:
1. Warseer team gets pancake edition and recognizes it as an early draft.
2. Warseer mods stop the discussion of the pancake edition. This would be a very serious copyright infringement.
3. GW distances itself from the document and calls it a hoax.
4. The mods allow the discussion of the document as GW cannot claim any copyright on it anymore.

[Charax]

Wintermute's post was very carefully worded. He doesn't say that the Warseer team recognized the pancake edition as a hoax.

You'll note the post was edited a while after the thread was started. I seem to recall the original version made precisely that assertion.

[ogretyrant]

Thats whst I thought, but I thought I better not say anything!

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[RandomThoughts]

I call big fat lie from GW on the hoax.

Unless someone has a very good crystal ball, it got far too much stuff right. This was an earlier beta of 6th, I have not the slightest doubt.

Yeah, pretty much that.

Except they steered back a bit too much in my opinion.

[Vovin]

I call big fat lie from GW on the hoax.

Unless someone has a very good crystal ball, it got far too much stuff right. This was an earlier beta of 6th, I have not the slightest doubt.

There is someone who pretends to have written the rules in the general forum: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showth...ew-6th-Edition

[RandomThoughts]

There is someone who pretends to have written the rules in the general forum.

I noticed as well. His understanding of game design puts some credibility to his claim, too.

So, can anyone comment?

After all, we might be under a moral obligation to get the guy laid now...