Codex: Chaos Legions rumours

[Deff Mekz]

I must have missed something...what is Eye of the Gods?

In summary; If a Chaos Lord/Hero/Champ whatever kills another Hero in a challenge then they get to roll on the "Eye of The Gods" table. This grants them a little "boost" for the rest of the game. eg; +1WS, +1 Str, +1 T etc;

[Son of Darkness]

At 100 pages long and a number of off topic musings, perhaps a new thread is in order?

[Sami]

Not really - The Dude is still updating the first post with any new information.

[Magister]

At 100 pages long and a number of off topic musings, perhaps a new thread is in order?

Nah just change the number of posts per page, shortens it considerably. And what Sami said.

[Rapator]

Well, since our rumours sources are silent I encourage players to think of trends in latest codices to infer what might be in for us.

I would surely expect is upgrade characters for squad and some nasty pieces of wargear that are usable only once in a game.
I was also thinking, that there is trend to make only 2 troop choices, but that applies only to GK, DE and Crons; nids and BA have more than 2 troop choices.

[Ebon]

If the rumours of cultists in the new starter box are accurate, I'd expect them to be in as a core choice. I'm really hoping all the power armoured cult units stay as Troops so that would make six Troops choices.

[Erazmus_M_Wattle]

I sincerely hope they don't give us expensive one shot items. The high points cost for something that you might miss with is a bit rubbish on my opinion.

[bobafett_h]

If the rumours of cultists in the new starter box are accurate, I'd expect them to be in as a core choice. I'm really hoping all the power armoured cult units stay as Troops so that would make six Troops choices.

No, Cult units NEED to become Elites again. The only Troops choices Chaos need should be Cultists, CSM squads and maybe Lesser Daemons. Taking a generic Character with a Mark or something or a certain Special Character should be all that is needed to unlock one Cult type as Troops...

However, with the FOC being dropped in place of a percentage based system, the categories could change too to something more like Fantasy or how 2nd Edition was. Personally I'd prefer to keep the current categories, but if it's like the old system, units that are currently in Elites and Fast Attack could be moved to Core or Support (or something else entirely)...

Regarding the DE style "pain tokens", I love the idea of that. My brother has some really cool markers for his Dark Eldar which I would like to replicate for my World Eaters with piles of skulls...

[KarlPedder]

However, with the FOC being dropped in place of a percentage based system, the categories could change too to something more like Fantasy or how 2nd Edition was. Personally I'd prefer to keep the current categories, but if it's like the old system, units that are currently in Elites and Fast Attack could be moved to Core or Support (or something else entirely)...

IF 6th ed switches to a % based system for force selection which still isn't certain at this point, they wont change the current unit categories. Removing the FOC in favour of a % based system invalidates about 1 paragraph of text and the FOC graphic box on one page in existing codexes it is easy to ignore. Changing the categories on the other hand would have a hugely negative impact on every existing codex and would make things messy and unorganized for little if any actual benefit.

[Dark Primus]

And there would be the big chance people would still use 5th edition till they get new codexes if their current ones arent playable with the 6th.

[Silvertongue]

IF 6th ed switches to a % based system for force selection which still isn't certain at this point, they wont change the current unit categories. Removing the FOC in favour of a % based system invalidates about 1 paragraph of text and the FOC graphic box on one page in existing codexes it is easy to ignore. Changing the categories on the other hand would have a hugely negative impact on every existing codex and would make things messy and unorganized for little if any actual benefit.

Not really. I mean, there is a lot of potential disasters to be had if they "create" different categories, since they'd have to distribute every single unit in every single codex, but from their point of view, they'd only have to issue some errata and do as they did with WHFB books: re-edit them with the errata included. Voilà!

[MajorWesJanson]

No, Cult units NEED to become Elites again. The only Troops choices Chaos need should be Cultists, CSM squads and maybe Lesser Daemons. Taking a generic Character with a Mark or something or a certain Special Character should be all that is needed to unlock one Cult type as Troops...

This needs to happen.

[Alaric Stormblade]

Yes it does.

[Mr. Ultra]

And there would be the big chance people would still use 5th edition till they get new codexes if their current ones arent playable with the 6th.

This never happened since 3d edition (1998)

[wyvirn]

This never happened since 3d edition (1998)

Not entirely true, they did the same thing in fantasy with ravaging hordes circa 2000. But what will likely happen is what they did with eighth edition, and give everybody an errata to ease the transition to 6th.

[Garanaul the Black]

If the rumours of cultists in the new starter box are accurate, I'd expect them to be in as a core choice. I'm really hoping all the power armoured cult units stay as Troops so that would make six Troops choices.

Did we ever get a clarification from Hastings on what he meant by 'Cultist'? Are they Cult Marines or 40K's version of Flagellants?

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[Elios Harg]

Did we ever get a clarification from Hastings on what he meant by 'Cultist'? Are they Cult Marines or 40K's version of Flagellants?

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Hastings quote was something to the effect of Cultists/Traitor guard, so I'd say they're likely humans.

[Son of Perturabo]

With regards to the release date for C:CSM I've been told that the release date for the 6th ed boxset is around about the 8th of August. I'd say that then puts the new Chaos book around about October, which is what we were expecting.

(Sorry The Dude for mentioning 6th ed again but it kind of tied in release schedule wise)

[MajorWesJanson]

With regards to the release date for C:CSM I've been told that the release date for the 6th ed boxset is around about the 8th of August. I'd say that then puts the new Chaos book around about October, which is what we were expecting.

(Sorry The Dude for mentioning 6th ed again but it kind of tied in release schedule wise)

Hmm, that pushes the big rulebook only window narrower, if the Box set comes out in August. Normally they give 2 months so the box set mini-rules don't step on sales of the hardback rulebook. with the BRB supposedly being June 30, I am now wondering about some wave models in July (Fantasy?) and possibly some models in August alongside the Starter (maybe some plastic characters for 40K? Some early Chaos models to prime for the codex?)

If that is the change, it could mean WoC in September then, and CSM in October, giving a nice block of Chaos models.

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[White_13oy]

Newest rumors from has WoC in October. This of coarse is from the new WoC titbit rumor and someone mentioned hastings had said it also.