I think it makes perfect sense - for such an important release, simply having 'serviceable' models won't satisfy GW. More and more, this sounds like it could be a revamp on the scale of the Dark Eldar rather than just adding a few bits and turning old metal kits into plastic/resin.New Bikers? They aren't that old and are perfectly serviceable. Unless they are determined to chuck them onto a 3-per-box sprue, I don't see the point
With so many other things that need plastic kits such as Raptors, cult troops, Dreadnaughts, Hovocs and that doesn't include the inevitable new units.
Serviceable is better than hybrid or absent
True, but we've already got confirmation on the Raptors and Dread.
We have? From whom?Originally Posted by Scammel
True, but we've already got confirmation on the Raptors and Dread.
Edit: Appartently hastings, but only a dread for the starter set, no confirmation otherwise I can find.
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Already having "confirmation" of two things only lessens the number of free kits for stuff that needs a kit. Marines could use a recut bike kit as much as Chaos, but instead they make new units.
To be fair, he did change his tune a bit later, saying that it was an idea bandied about early on in development but had since been changed to a single Legions codex.
Does that make it more or less reliable? That's up to you. I don't know theDarkGeneral personally, but he's been a regular on another forum I frequent (Throne of Skulls) and he's well-known there. While he's pretty new (from what I've seen) to the rumourmill, I see no reason why he'd be lying.
Whether his source is reliable or not is another matter.
(But then again, I also defended ghost21. Ho hum.)
Raptors are in finecast, so i would call them "serviceable" too.With so many other things that need plastic kits such as Raptors, cult troops, Dreadnaughts, Hovocs and that doesn't include the inevitable new units.
Serviceable is better than hybrid or absent
The funny thing is that I remember reading a post from Hastings saying that there'd be new plastic raptors and a new plastic Dread. I cannot for the life of me find it though.
I could see it happening. I haven't had the pleasure of seeing the fine-cast versions but the metal ones were very top heavy and fell over a lot. Mine were only ever stable on flat surfaces. So I've sold them all. I would think that while the fine-cast raptors are much lighter they would still have the same problem. If so then I could see that being a reason to do them as plastics.
Time will tell.
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Yeah let's give an army bicycles instead of bikes or jetbikes, all in the name of diversity..Back on topic I am in agreement with Erazmus_M_Wattle on the issue of plastic raptors. I remember reading a post from Harry I think, but for the life of me I can't seem to find it any longer. I really hope they are made in plastic however. Don't fancy driving back and forth to GW to replace miscasts. As far as troops are concerned I am quite happy with the FW conversion kits. If only they release similar ones for slaanesh and tzeentch I can't ask for anything more.
To be fair, the bikes for both sides are fairly old. It wouldn't surprise me if they redid both kits with CSM being first. The SM kit for the specialist weapons is hybrid and that is often a top requirement for being redone.
Bikes, Raptors, Dreads would be 3 of the kits, with rumours also suggesting a cult plastic sprue... I would like that a lot for my four plastics.
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Having played against the current plastic bikes a fair few times, I must say I don't like the style much - its OK the tanks looking like world war 2 tanks somehow, but the bikes just don't pull it off. They just look like boring old motorbikes that seem totally out of place. I remember the old epic scale bikes, although obviously lacking in much detail because they were Epic scale, had a much nicer "Sci-fi" body shape.
(note: I just checked the GW site. Current Epic Armageddon bikes don't look like this so I can't get a picture;- you'll have to look back 16 years or so...)
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Not sure if this qualifies as news but I've just been in to my local shop to be told that the thousand sons I ordered aren't available as they are going to be finecast, don't know if that means the whole kit or just the metal parts.
Sorry if this has already been mentioned.
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Was that an official reason or a bit of "deductive reasoning" on the part of staff?
This could potentially mark the first Finecast-plastic hybrid kit, if correct.
as if we needed any more reasons not to store out models near radiators...
Plague marines already a hybrid kit, backpacks are plastic
The Hive Tyrant, while available, was a hybrid kit.
Oh, I stand corrected.
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