Best plastic kits for building a Blood Bowl team

[korinth]

Awesome conversions - the anti santa!

[Inforthepain]

Agree with korinth. Those ghouls had nice posture.

[toonboy78]

ork boyz for an orc team look pretty tough.

[Hawthorne]

I was wondering what ideas people had for a pro elf team while sticking to GW. Maybe bash high dogs and dark elfs?

[Anaris]

I'd reckon a mix of DE Wyches, WE Glade Guard heads would work, but you would have to take a lot of time to remove a lot of DE spikey bits from the DE Wyches. You could leave some, but some of them would look too 'evil' (if you know what I mean).

[korinth]

I was wondering what ideas people had for a pro elf team while sticking to GW. Maybe bash high dogs and dark elfs?

Second edition dark elves are nice for filling the Pro Elf positionals. One of my coach friends has such a team (at my place), that I could take a picture of if you'd like me to.

[Hawthorne]

I'd reckon a mix of DE Wyches, WE Glade Guard heads would work, but you would have to take a lot of time to remove a lot of DE spikey bits from the DE Wyches. You could leave some, but some of them would look too 'evil' (if you know what I mean).

Maybe, we talked about converting before with a friend of mine and the general conclusion was, for nearly all the elfs (maybe not High) DE Wyches are a great place to start. I was just wondering about other ideas. I have some WE Glade Guard Heads on sprue so I'll look at them and see how I think they'd look.

Second edition dark elves are nice for filling the Pro Elf positionals. One of my coach friends has such a team (at my place), that I could take a picture of if you'd like me to.

Just looked at them and I can see why people would use them for Pro Elfs but they have that old big head thing I don't care for and I'm trying to avoid metal. (not a bad suggestion just personal preference).


I am willing to use GW's Pro Elf team if push comes to shove (I'd rather use plastic and I'm looking to do conversions since I need practice doing that). But I must admit that is, as far as I'm concerned, one of the actual decent looking teams.


While I'm hear I'll also ask about a Chaos Team (I'm between teams). I think doing the Beastmen would be fairly easy using a Gor kit and the minotaur wouldn't be too bad using the new Minotaur models (maybe a doom bull cutting out the weapon and reworking the arm locations) and would be an excuse to buy those minotaur models which are so good. But what I'm wondering on is the actual chaos warrior models. The WOC ones kind of have that stationary thing that I don't care for (sorry, I meant everyone taking a step foward in unison) and their arms look rather silly without weapons. The blood bowl chaos models are well...horrid.
I was wondering what ideas you guys had for them as well (I was almost thinking using a chaos space marine for the base part but not entirely sure)

[korinth]

Just looked at them and I can see why people would use them for Pro Elfs but they have that old big head thing I don't care for and I'm trying to avoid metal. (not a bad suggestion just personal preference).

I am willing to use GW's Pro Elf team if push comes to shove (I'd rather use plastic and I'm looking to do conversions since I need practice doing that). But I must admit that is, as far as I'm concerned, one of the actual decent looking teams.

I'm going to make a small attempt to convince you that metal is as good as plastic for conversions, not because I think those teams are superior, but because I actually prefer metal myself. The big downside is that you need more than a hobby knife (though that is my main tool), pins and glue. One great thing is that stripping metal minis is much safer. Another thing I like is that metal is very forgiving and it's very easy to correct small mistakes since they often don't do a major impact on your mini right away. Besides, there are lot's of OOP minis that provide great material for conversions.

If you're still not considering metal, I think your plastic conversions will probably be awesome too. Don't forget to post some images when you get to it.

Oh, and don't forget to check my Plog!

[Hawthorne]

I'm going to make a small attempt to convince you that metal is as good as plastic for conversions, not because I think those teams are superior, but because I actually prefer metal myself. The big downside is that you need more than a hobby knife (though that is my main tool), pins and glue. One great thing is that stripping metal minis is much safer. Another thing I like is that metal is very forgiving and it's very easy to correct small mistakes since they often don't do a major impact on your mini right away. Besides, there are lot's of OOP minis that provide great material for conversions.

If you're still not considering metal, I think your plastic conversions will probably be awesome too. Don't forget to post some images when you get to it.

Oh, and don't forget to check my Plog!

I shouldn't say I'm entirely against metal but I don't currently have the tools to do major conversion work on it. But against the old dark elf models you suggested (I believe I'm looking at the right ones); I don't care for that old style of big heads and sometimes (not in the case) big hands (at least on elf or humans or similar species...on goblins it looks fine).

I guess I should first decide which team I'm planning on building (I'll likely build multiple in the near future if I can but one step at a time).
Between 6 teams atm (Skaven, Elf, Chaos, Orc, Norse, or Dwarf). I have Orc and Dwarf teams but for either I also wouldn't mind converting myself a new team (get a unique look and all that).

[korinth]

I shouldn't say I'm entirely against metal but I don't currently have the tools to do major conversion work on it. But against the old dark elf models you suggested (I believe I'm looking at the right ones); I don't care for that old style of big heads and sometimes (not in the case) big hands (at least on elf or humans or similar species...on goblins it looks fine).

I guess I should first decide which team I'm planning on building (I'll likely build multiple in the near future if I can but one step at a time).
Between 6 teams atm (Skaven, Elf, Chaos, Orc, Norse, or Dwarf). I have Orc and Dwarf teams but for either I also wouldn't mind converting myself a new team (get a unique look and all that).

If you are not sure which are the 2nd ed. DEs; Eirochrome has photos of the set in his blog: http://twilight40k.blogspot.com/2009...-elf-team.html

If you are considering Skaven, there are lots of good examples of conversions here on Warseer, and there is a great range of nice models (both in the current BB line and other sources).

[Hawthorne]

Okay those are the exact pictures for the DEs I was looking at. I can see why people might like them but I shy away from that look.

Yeah, I'm doing a 1000 TV tournament (short) so using that as an excuse to make my own team just trying to balance functional team/moderate to convert/interesting.
That's why I've narrowed it down to those 6 since in my eyes those 6 are at least interesting to me and not murder to play with.
Just for the heck of it, here's a makeshift pros and cons in my eyes for each team.
Chaos: Could be fun to convert, I've done well with them in the video game in long campaigns, has a big guy, excuse to by beastmen stuff; not entirely sure what my plans are for the warriors and suffers early in leagues a la 1000 tv tournaments
Dwarf: Solid gameplay even without being developped, tons of experience with them (multiple real life leagues and online gameplay), has a big guy (and the new model has been calling me over my dinkly old one); probably would just use the BB line team I already have, done them to death
Elf: Looks interesting to convert, pretty solid in tournament settings [cheaper than half elfs but doesn't really need the armor], bb line isn't bad; not a lot of experience with them, nothing eye catching about the team
Skaven: Pretty good gameplay, but not my best, looks interesting and not difficult to convert, has a big guy, one of those always been interested but never started; not used to their play-style [seen them played a lota nd tried video game leagues, it's very polar either victories like 5-1 or losses like 1-3]
Norse: Could be interesting to convert (mostly based on the marauder kit), has a big guy, similar to dwarfs but I get to enjoy moving; Not sure where to start with the werewolf and the yhetee (based on the game the yhetee is a furry troll?) but the internet can help with that)
Orcs: I have plenty of orc stuff (40k and fantasy), solid gameplay (although a bit dry with the dwarfs), has a big guy, and converting could be fun; the plastic team I already have isn't bad (so I might view it as a waste of time/money), a bit dry gameplay.

So yeah, how helpful is that stuff not sure; just throwing it out there.

[S_A_T_S]

Sticking to the OP's question (I prefer plastic to convert and have never used Dark Elves except on the computer game, but don't wanna get in a discussion), by far the easiest team to make from plastics is a Skaven team from the Night Runners box. I made everything except the throwers (I wanted them to have BB balls in their hands; even then, the only non-night runner part on one of them is his throwing arm) from the box. This includes mutations (with some left overs from the chaos spawn set) and the Rat Ogre (which I based on the concept of the Rat King). Pics can be found here. Later on I added an apothecary (I model I found in the bottom of a bag of random bits I bought from an acquaintance) and Hakfelm Shufflespike (a little green stuff and a spare head from the Night Runner sprues added to a model I got off eBay).

Nurgle I put together from one of the 3 model, Ł5 sets of Chaos warriors, a metal Nurgle champions, a box of ghouls as rotters, a tentacle covered spawn as a beast of Nurgle and 4 of my plaugebearers as pestigors. Not entirely plastic, but a lot cheaper than buying metals or bigger boxes with stuff I don't need that would clog up my shelves. No pics of this team, maybe in the future...

I'm still considering how to make a Chaos Dwarf team in plastic, and I have to say I think Mantic are the way to go. I'd much prefer to have the silly hats, but if it's gonna cost me 3x the price to get them, I won't do it. Hobgobbos could maybe be night goblins, gnoblars... The big problem is bull centaurs. GW still sell one but he is Ł15, which is more than half what I would want to spent on the whole team. Mantic I think are making some, but I'm not sure I like the preliminary images...

[korinth]

Just for the heck of it, here's a makeshift pros and cons in my eyes for each team.
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So yeah, how helpful is that stuff not sure; just throwing it out there.

I'd go for Skaven, there are many opportunities in models for them. In any case I wouldn't do a team I already had.

Here are some inspirational Skaven fast links from Rich's plog:

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showth...=1#post3027964
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showth...=1#post3432736
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showth...=1#post3718412
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showth...=1#post4165402
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showth...=1#post4306490
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showth...=1#post4700523
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showth...=1#post4830909
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showth...=1#post5040422

A lot of links, but awesome material.

[zerodemon]

I use Ghouls for rotters too (except when I kill an enemy, when that happens, I usually manage to scrounge up a model from the right race to Nurglify.) I'd bought the Rotter boxed set a few years back, when it was full of Beastmen and no Warriors. I used the Rotters from the set as Warriors, 4 of the beastmen as beastmen and then Ghouls and a Chaos Spawn (with the fly bits.)

They are still my favourite team, though I'm waiting for a box shipment from the uk which has them in it. Lots of fun. People say the team is hard to play, but they suit me just fine.

[jonny_p]

I'm working on a Chaos team where the Beastmen have Gor heads and marauder bodies. Should turn out well. I always thought the Gors were just too tall for the BB field. Just my opinion.

[CromFrance]

WFB ogres and gnoblars are great for an ogre team, check mine:


http://i40.tinypic.com/2gxqk4l.jpg

[hippo2112]

I've gotten by with a box of maruaders as seen here. I used some extra Non-GW models to fill out for Ulfwerners and snow trolls.

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d.../NorseTeam.jpg

I don't have pictures, but I made a pretty complete Undead team using an skeleton box and trading for some of the plastic ghouls. Greenstuffed the skellys to make mummies.

I've also read elsewhere that 40K cadian shock troops can make a pretty decent human team, what with the helmets and shoulder pads already there.

[Aflo]

Yeh the orc/k kits are fantastic for bloodbowl. Just uploaded some pictures of my own bunch actually: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showth...65#post6115765

Trying my hand at sculpting a pair of ulfs using the head of a LOTR warg as a basis...actually coming on quite well!

[the anti santa]

Yeh the orc/k kits are fantastic for bloodbowl. Just uploaded some pictures of my own bunch actually: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showth...65#post6115765

Trying my hand at sculpting a pair of ulfs using the head of a LOTR warg as a basis...actually coming on quite well!

Wow, those are fantastic!

The 40K and fantasy battle orcs/orks are really easy to make into a bloodbowl team and combine well with each other. The trouble with this is that as so many people have done this the teams tend to all look the same. But I love your conversions as the positionals are easy to distinguish and most importantly they look like Bloodbowl players. Great paint job on them as well.

Now hurry up and post pics of the Black Orcs and Troll.

[Aflo]

Thanks anti santa! Just updated it with blorcs and a troll earlier today. I tried to make each player an individual which with a few extra little details like the decapitated elf really works well I think.

And would I be right in thinking your online handle's spubbbba on TFF and fumbbl or is that another Bristolian?