FAQ Wishlist 4.0

[AMWOOD co]

It’s been four months now since the last update for the FAQ’s and we’ve seen 2 new books released with nothing on a few still existing issues.

This is a list of commonly asked rules questions that either a) are just that, commonly asked and not answered in GW's official FAQ's or b) Do not have a sufficient answer in the current rules and kept silent about by gentleman's agreement.

Also, suggestions are always appreciated, and my original list of 20 has expanded to... this. Some have been answered over time, but many (far too many) remain.

So without further adeiu...

General/Rulebook Questions

Basics

• B01. Is line of sight bound by the position of a model's eyes (or eye sockets)? What if the model has no eyes or has eyes that can see behind itself? How should this relate to magic items/abilities that use a model's line of sight (eg. Doom Totem)?

Movement

• Mv01. Is a "failed charge" conducted using the charge movement rules or the normal movement rules as far as measuring wheels and the number of wheels allowed?
• Mv02. If two units with different base sizes charge a single opponent, is it more important to equalize the charging units, maximize the models or contact, or is it the charging players descretion?
• Mv03. If a unit is unable to close the door when charging, the enemy closes the door instead. Does this apply even if the enemy unit is already engaged with one or more units? If so, are all units moved? If not does the charge fail?

Magic (not spells)

• Mg01. Do Spell Lores from older army books follow the four restrictions listed on p31 for Choosing a Target?

Close Combat

• CC01. Can support attacks be made through models with larger foot prints (eg. Cavalry character in an infantry unit)?
• CC02. If a unit consists of multiple different rank-and-file model types, how are hits distributed? Do excess wounds overflow from one group of models onto the other? How are casualties removed stepping up handled?
• CC03. When making a combat reform, may command models not be put in the front when the reform is complete (models in contact must stay in contact)?
• If you win combat against two units and break them, you must choose one to pursue. If you roll enough movement to move into contact with the unit you chose not to pursue, is it treated as pursuit into a new enemy (and therefore destroyed)? If no do you stop 1" away?

Special Rules

• SR01. Killing Blow FAQ could be clarified: is it intended that characters which are mounted on Monstrous Beasts becoming Monstrous Cavalry can be victims of Killing Blow? If so, what about special characters who are Monstrous Cavalry (eg. Archaon)?
• SR02. How should special rules/items that affect units of split profile models affect the unit (eg. Frenzy on a cavalry unit)?
• SR03. If a model with regeneration is struck with flaming attacks and non-flaming attacks in the same initiative step, is it allowed to regenerate the non-flaming attacks?
• SR04. If a character with regenration is in a unit without and the unit is wounded by Flaming Attacks, does the character lose his regeneration for that phase?
• SR05. Can abilities that affect models in base contact affect those making supporting attacks (eg. the Nightshroud affects models in base contact and removes strength bonuses from weapons, would models making supporting attacks be able to use their strength bonuses)?
• SR06. Can Sniper be used in combination with Multiple Shots?
• SR07. If a chariot has no crew, what WS and Ld are used, the steed? If the chariot is mounted by a character, is his WS used?
• SR08. Do units with the Scouts special rule count as the last deployed units when using the Alternating Units rules for determining who goes first?
• SR09. Are units that cause Fear in certain units (eg. Units with Flaming Attacks cause fear to Cavalry) immune to Fear from these units? Immune to Fear in general?

Characters

• Ch01. How are Breath Attacks and (Thunder)Stomp used in a challenge, are they directed only at the opposing model in the challenge?
• Ch02. Can a character Make Way! after the first round of a combat?
• Ch03. Must a Frenzying unit pass a Berserk Rage test before a character can charge out of the unit or does the character's charge make the unit unable to charge itself?
• Ch04. Can a unit have 3 or more characters with odd footprints in it (eg. Orcs in a goblin unit)? If so, how can the characters be placed?
• Ch05. If a multipart model with separate parts that can be slain (eg. a character on a monster or chariot) is hit by a template that forces a characteristic test and each part is hit then which value is used for each test, the part that was hit or the best (p10, characteristic tests)? If a failed test removes 'the model', does just that part die or is the whole model killed?
• Ch06. If a multipart model with separate parts that can be slain is hit by a spell or ability that affects 'every model in the target unit', is it hit just once or once for each part (eg. Dwellers Below, Flames of the Phoenix)? If just once, how is it then resolved?
• Ch07. Can a character who cannot be the general (eg a battle standard bearer) have a higher Ld than the general?
• Ch08. If a model is called upon to make an individual Ld test (ie. not the unit), and is inside a unit, if the unit is within range of a battle standard but the model is not, can the model re-roll? Same with Inspiring Presence?
• Ch09. Some chariots have only characters for 'crew'. What WS is used for hitting said chariots? If the character dies, what Ld is used for the chariot?
• Ch10: If the general's unit and another unit are both affected by an area of effect special rule that reduces their Ld (eg. The Hell Totem, Aura of Dark Majesty) then will this be applied twice, once to modify the general's Inspiring Presence and then once more to the unit?

Warmachines

• Wm01. Which WS does a Warmachine use when being attacked if it has more than one value, the highest or the majority (eg. Orc Bully, Anvil of Doom)?
• Wm02. Can a cannon fire towards a unit it has Line of Sight to if it doesn't have Line of Sight to a point on the ground a suitable distance ahead of the target? Can a cannon fire towards a unit it doens't have Line of Sight to if it does have Line of Sight to a point in front of it?
• Wm03. There are some models that fire 'like' a specific kind warmachine without being one (eg. Hellcannon, Scraplauncher). Do they follow all the rules for 'Shooting With Warmachines' on p109 (unless stated otherwise)? Does the Ironcurse Icon work against them?
• WM04. Must a warmachine select its target within Line of Sight before pivoting?

Reference Section

• R01. Is a magic lance or mounted spear used past the first round of combat (p90: lance vs reference: I'm Using This One)? If not, may you use a special weapon rather than a hand weapon?
• R02. If a model in a challenge was swapped using the Smoke and Mirrors Shadow Lore Attribute, is the new character now part of that challenge or is the challenge ended?
• R03. If a wizard uses Smoke and Mirrors on the turn he charged, can the model model inflict Impact Hits as if he were charging (eg. an Ogre wizard or a wizard on a chariot swapping for another character)?
• R04. For the Lore of Beasts spell Curse of Anraheir, is open ground to be counted as Dangerous Terrain?
• R05. How will the Other Trickster's Shard affect a unit with a Ward Save? eg. A Chaos Lord with the Shard, in a unit of Warrriors, fighting a unit of Phoenix Guard. Will Warriors in contact with Phoenix Guard in contact with the Lord be able to take advantage of the item?
• R06. Can a magical vortex be cast a) towards a unit in combat? b) by a wizard in combat?
• R07. If an individual model in a unit is called upon to use its own "unmodified Ld" (e.g. Spirit Leech), do you use the highest in the unit or the Ld on its profile?
• R08. If a model has an ability granted by a magic weapon (e.g. Empire Sword of Justice allows the bearer to re-roll wounds), does that apply to only close combat attacks or any attacks made by the characters (e.g. spells or ranged attacks)?
• R09. Can bound items be used in conjunction with arcane items such as scrolls that don't provide a casting bonus? E.g. using the Tricker's Shard and Ruby Ring of Ruin in conjunction with each other.

Army Specific:

Orcs and Goblins:

• O&G01. Does Gaze of Mork allow Look Out Sir rolls? Does it hit more than 1 model per rank?
• O&G02. The cost of the Orc with Two Hand Weapons on p96 (8 points) is not consistant with the unit entry on p104 (7 points). Which of these is correct?
• O&G03. Do Fanatics and Mangler Squigs obey the 1" rule? If so, how are they handled if they land within an inch of a unit and there is no room to move them due to other units?
• O&G04. If a Squig Herder unit has only Night Goblins left and it flees, Does the Squigs Go Wild rule take effect?

Warriors of Chaos:

• WoC01. How should Mark of Khorne and the Banner of Rage be applied to Chaos Chariots, Chaos Knights, and Marauder Horsemen; to one element or to all?
• WoC02. If a model fails its Fear test and tries to attack a model with the Mark of Nurgle, is it then incapable of attacking from having WS0?
• Woc03. What is the unit type of a character mounted on an infantry mount (eg. Chaos Palanquin)?
• WoC04. Are Archaon's attacks doubled before or after any other modifiers (eg. Frenzy)? Can his total attacks from the unleashed Slayer of Kings exceed 10?

Daemons of Chaos:

• DoC01. What is the unit type of a character mounted on an infantry mount (eg. Chaos Palanquin)?
• DoC02. Can Siren Song be used on a unit in a building?
• DoC03. Are daemonic icons fully "magic items" including the uniqueness restriction, or simply "magic items" for rules and effects that target magic items?
• DoC04. Will a character with the Torment Blade gain +1A for having 2 hand weapons? Will this apply to any other gifts?

Lizardmen:

• Lm01. If Cupped Hands is used to trade off the effects of a miscast to a model which has a special rule concerning miscasts (Horrors, Taeclis, etc.), does the special rule involving miscasts take precedence over the miscast result?
• Lm02. Is a Slaan in a Temple Guard unit forbidden from casting spells that hit everything in their path (eg. Burning Head) since the model in the first rank will be hit or should this model be ignored?

Skaven:

• Sk01. Does Cracks Call allow Look Out Sir rolls? Can it hit more than 1 model per rank?
• Sk02. How will a Warpfire Thrower resolve a Stand and Shoot if the distance the template moves is insufficient to contact the enemy (Stand and Shoot assumes to be within maximum range of the weapon), even if a 10 is rolled?
• Sk03. Does Strength in Numbers apply to special rules or attacks that check leadership but are not explicitly a test, eg. Banshee Scream?

Dwarfs:

• Dw01. Can the Rune of Challenge be used on a unit in a building?

High Elves:

• HE01. Does the Loremaster's Cloak provide a save against spells that are resolved like close combat attacks (Bladewind) or inflict combat attacks (Horekhah's Incantation of Smiting)?
• HE02. If Vaul's Unmaking is used on an item that has already used it's effect (eg. Storm Banner, Sivejir's Hex Scroll) does the effect end?

Beastmen

• Bm01. Does the Hagtree Fetish work with the Feedback Scroll? With a spell that wounds without using Strength (eg. The Caress of Laniph, Lore of Metal spells)

Ogre Kingdoms

• OK01. If a wizard is hit by a spell from a butcher/slaughtermaster/fire belly with the Greedy Fist, will he lose wizard levels? If so, is it one per hit or one per spell?
• OK02. If the Hellheart causes a model which has a special rule concerning miscasts (eg Teclis, Horrors of Tzeentch) to roll on the miscast table, does the special rule involving miscasts take precedence?
• OK03. Does Golfag Maneater have Stubborn and Vanguard when not accompanying his maneaters? May he use different rules from Been There, Done That?
• OK04. Can the Rune Maw redirect a miscast of the spell The Maw?

Vampire Counts

• VC01. Can the Lore Attribute be used to heal characters or their mounts?
• VC02. Does Invocation of Nehek will heal only one Wound on a Vampire model in a single casting. As Blood Knights only have one Wound each, can it raise multiple models?

Tomb Kings

• TK01: If a unit is accompanied by a model with My Will Be Done is affected by a spell or ability that reduced its WS, (eg. Melkoth's Mystifying Miasma), does the unit ignore the reduction in favour of the character's unmodified WS?

Empire

• Em01. How does a Regimental Unit give Steadfast to a Detachment?
• Em02. Does a Steamtank get an Armour Save against wounds caused by its Misfire table? Any other saves?

I'll keep this post continually updated with the current state of these questions. Also, as I own only a small portion of the books, I don't have all the burning questions, so feel free to ask more on the thread below.

Past incarnations of this thread are here: 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0.

Update log:
2012/02/12 - Added Sniper Question to SR, added OK2-4, removed chariot without crew question from TK and DoC and put it in G-SR. Removed O&G fanatic vs. Mangler question. Fixed some minor placement errors, examples, and typos.
2012/03/21 - Added VC02 and Sk03.
2012/04/22 - Added SR08 and 09. WM04 added.
2012/04/24 – Added Ch10, TK01, and Em01. All the new books have at least one question of their own now.
2012/04/27 - Modified Em01. Added Em02.

[AMWOOD co]

Well, here we are, the fourth incarnation of my FAQ Wishlist. It didn't take long to edit as the only Rulebook FAQ change that was made was an errata for the power scroll (while appreciated by many, it is woefully inadequate when faced with the over twenty questions still here).

To Vampire players, I've posted the general debate as a general question, as it's implications also apply to Ogres, Skaven, and anyone with a Battle Standard (ie. everyone).

Also, to anyone who has an email or site for GW that will actually take a list this large to consider answers, it would be highly appreciated if you would either post said contact means on this thread or PM it to me. Alternatively, just forward this thread's URL and let them browse through.

Well, let the Chaos begin.

[Lord Inquisitor]

There are a few that are out-of-date (we know the base size of a mangler now). I would suggest that you divide your rulebook questions into the subheadings as presented in the FAQ.

I've a whole bunch to add to this but a few off the top of my head:

- If two models strike at the same initiative value and one has flaming attacks but the other does not, would a regenerating enemy be able to use it's regeneration save against the non-flaming attack if it is wounded by the flaming attack?
- If an individual model in a unit is called upon to use its own "unmodified Ld" (e.g. Spirit Leech), do you use the highest in the unit or the Ld on its profile?
- If a mounted model is Frenzied, does its mount gain Extra Attack as well?
- Can a model that fires like a war machine but is not unit type war machine pivot before firing?
- Can abilities that affect models in base contact affect those making supporting attacks? E.g. the Nightshroud affects models in base contact and removes strength bonuses from weapons. Would models making supporting attacks be able to use their strength bonuses?
- If a unit is unable to close the door when charging, the enemy closes the door instead. Does this apply even if the enemy unit is already engaged with one or more units? If so, are all units moved? If not does the charge fail?
- If a model has to pick a target in Line of Sight, does that also automatically mean it has to be in forward Arc too?
- If a model has an ability granted by a magic weapon (e.g. Empire Sword of Justice allows the bearer to re-roll wounds), does that apply to only close combat attacks or any attacks made by the characters (e.g. spells or ranged attacks)?
- If you win combat against two units and break them, you must choose one to pursue. If you roll enough movement to move into contact with the unit you chose not to pursue, is it treated as pursuit into a new enemy (and therefore destroyed)? If no do you stop 1" away?
- If a character is called upon to make an individual Ld test (NOT the unit), and is inside a unit, if the unit is within range of a battle standard and the character is not, can the character re-roll?
- Are grapshot attacks made by a cannon subject to the "to hit" modifiers for multiple shots, long range, moving, etc.?
- If a character with regeneration is in a unit and the unit is hit by a flaming attack does the character lose regeneration (or vice versa)? What about if he is in a challenge? Will a character lose regeneration even if the unit he is with does not have regeneration?

Ogres:
- Are miscasts caused by the Hellheart affected by items that negate or otherwise affect miscasts (e.g. cupped hands, etc.)?
- Does Golgfag gain the Been There, Done That rules of a maneater unit other than Golgfag's Maneaters? Does have have Stubborn & Vanguard if he is not accompanied by his unit or if they are all dead?
- Can the Rune Maw banner be used against a "misfire" result on The Maw spell?

Vampires:
- Can the Lore Attribute be used to heal characters or their mounts?

I will add more as I think of them. Unless anyone can get you in contact with whoever collates the FAQs then I think mailing a paper copy to the design studio with a link to an online copy included would be your best bet.

[Harwammer]

I've got a few off the top of my head and a few I came up with earlier:

Does a model that fires like a stone thrower / cannon / bolt thrower have the Move or Fire and/or Slow to Fire rules when firing in this way?

I think your TK question should be expanded to general as Empire also can have a crewless chariot (War altar).

What weapon skill is used (if any) when rolling to hit against a chariot which has no crew but does have a character riding it? If the character's is used then what weapon skill is used once he dies?

Page 6: Moving direcly towards another unit: the text implies the unit gets a free pivot before moving, is this the case? Units that fail a charge use this rule but may wheel around interposing impassable terrain. Can other units that move in this fashion also wheel around interposing units / impassable terrain?

P113: Are chariots pulled or crewed by a creature that would normally be considered a monstrous beast or monstrous infantry (e.g. razorgor chariots) be able to stop a cannonball bounce by surviving the hit?

P107/134: Is the General selected at list selection (p134) or does p107 (selecting the general) mean this choice is not finalised until deployment starts?

Can bound items be used in conjunction with arcane items such as scrolls that don't provide a casting bonus? E.g. using the Tricker's Shard and Ruby Ring of Ruin in conjunction with each other.

I've got more but I don't want to bog your thread down with them.

I've sent you a PM with an email address in. I don't know if it's any good.

[Artiee]

•O&G01. - its not FAQed but works like Penumbral Pendulum on shadow. Line is still a templete.
•O&G02. The cost of the Orc with Two Hand Weapons on p96 (8 points) is not consistant with the unit entry on p104 (7 points). Which of these is correct?

•O&G03. I beleve thats explained in the OnG FAQ. Q about the fanatics. bullit 3.

•O&G04. Just like if a single model runs into it. Fanatic into Mangler -> The Mangler dies, and fanatic get 3D6. Mangler into fanatic -> fanatic dies and does 2D6

•O&G05. We know this one. 60mm we have a model now.

[oldWitheredCorpse]

What weapon skill is used (if any) when rolling to hit against a chariot which has no crew but does have a character riding it? If the character's is used then what weapon skill is used once he dies?

Seconded! I want to know this too.

Also, on TK, I want to know whether Settra's Chariot of the gods benefit from the "Chariot legions" rule or not (extra strength hits).

[AMWOOD co]

There, did the update I said I'd do, but something went screwy between Notepad and... everything else. Had to copy it all to word and spend time refortatting it. Ughh... Well it's now a Word document so it shouldn't happen again (of course shouldn't and won't are two different things). As the update log at the bottom says, I also did a few other minor changes... but I'm leaving WoC01 as a separate question from SR02 intentionally.

[Artiee]

Is this just a running list of FAQ? or is this a Updated list removing the ones that have been FAQed?

There are some that have been answered in FAQ.

[sorberec]

The email address GW published in White Dwarf a few months back is gamefaqs@games-workshop.co.uk but, having fired off some questions myself and having not even had an acknowledgement that it's beeen received I don't know how often (if at all) it's checked

Anyway, queries from me:

G - The Ironcurse Icon says it provides a "6+ ward save against war machine weapons". Does the phrase "war machine weapons" limit the effects of this to damage caused just units of type War Machine, or does it mean any unit that has a weapon that would normally be found on a war machine? i.e the cannon on a Steam Tank, the giant bow that can be taken on a Stegadon, the scrap launcher etc.

HE - Are models in the same unit as the Banner of the World Dragon able to benefit from the effects of Lore attributes (e.g. Smoke and Mirrors, Lifebloom (or whatever the Lore of Life attribute is called))

HE - When a spell is cast on a unit with the Banner of the World Dragon does it automatically end as it cannot affect the unit or does it still remain in effect but not affecting the unit for as long as the Battle Standard Bearer carrying the Banner of the World Dragon is alive?

Example 1: The Withering is cast on a unit with the BotWD and the roll for effect is -2 to Toughness. Does the spell still remain in play, and so if the model carrying the BotWD dies the -2 to Toughness comes into effect, or does it end as soon as it is cast on the unit.

Example 2: Soul Blight from the Lore of Death is cast on the unit containing the BotWD. Does the spell end immediately or does the effect last for its normal duration, meaning that if the model carrying the BotWD is killed in the following shooting or close combat phases, the unit is affected by the spell?



HE/O - The Thundertusk's "Numbing Chill" special rule gives the Always Strikes Last rule to units within 6". High Elves have Always Strike First thanks to their Speed of Asuryan rule which grants them ASF "regardless of the weapon they are wielding" and so for the most part High Elf models within the range of Numbing Chill will resort to striking at their Initiative value. However, Sword Masters, White Lions and any High Elf characters armed with Great Weapons already have the Always Strikes Last rule from the weapon (although it does not affect them due to the Speed of Asuryan). As they cannot have Always Strikes Last twice does this mean that they are immune to the effects of Numbing Chill or do they also now strike at Initiative order?

[popisdead]

Beastmen

• Bm01. Does the Hagtree Fetish work with the Feedback Scroll? With a spell that wounds without using Strength (eg. The Caress of Laniph, Lore of Metal spells)

Can the Bloodfrenzy (or whatever it is called) rule take a model above 10 attacks?

Can Beastmen units use the BRB ambush rule instead?

If a Shaman with the lore of shadow, in a Chariot charges, then after successfully casting a spell uses Smoke and Mirrors to swap with another (likely more deadly) character in the combat phase will the swapped character still get Impact Hits even though it wasn't his chariot specifically that charged? If so, if there is a difference between chariots, whose chariot does the Impact Hits?

[AMWOOD co]

Wow. What a load of responses. Umm...

Well, I've read through everything now. I didn't post every question that came up as some have been discussed and answered briefly (I do post things that keep coming up). I do want to address a few of these, however.

•O&G01. - its not FAQed but works like Penumbral Pendulum on shadow. Line is still a templete.

•O&G03. I beleve thats explained in the OnG FAQ. Q about the fanatics. bullit 3.

•O&G04. Just like if a single model runs into it. Fanatic into Mangler -> The Mangler dies, and fanatic get 3D6. Mangler into fanatic -> fanatic dies and does 2D6

•O&G05. We know this one. 60mm we have a model now.

Going through your responses to the greenskin questions:
1. Where's it say that? Same with Crack's call. There's nothing saying to treat it like a cannonball.
3. That only explains when the fanatic goes through a unit. What if it stops short? Also, we're told to leave a fanatic that goes through and stops short of another unit. Is this a definitive answer? Many don't think so.
4. Probably, but I'd like this one in black and white.
5. ...and nobody told me? Can I get a link to the model please? I'd like to see it.

There are a few that are out-of-date (we know the base size of a mangler now). I would suggest that you divide your rulebook questions into the subheadings as presented in the FAQ.

I've a whole bunch to add to this but a few off the top of my head:

Ogres:
- Are miscasts caused by the Hellheart affected by items that negate or otherwise affect miscasts (e.g. cupped hands, etc.)?
- Does Golgfag gain the Been There, Done That rules of a maneater unit other than Golgfag's Maneaters? Does have have Stubborn & Vanguard if he is not accompanied by his unit or if they are all dead?
- Can the Rune Maw banner be used against a "misfire" result on The Maw spell?

I will add more as I think of them. Unless anyone can get you in contact with whoever collates the FAQs then I think mailing a paper copy to the design studio with a link to an online copy included would be your best bet.

Wow. Thanks for the list, though you did double some of the ones I already had. You'll also see that I split them up into categories for the main book (don't ask for better ordering, I'm not doing it).

I'm leaving the Ogre ones for a bit until I can crossreference with my buddy who plays Ogres and we can figure out exactly what the conflicts are. I've never heard of these issues and I'm not sure I understand them here. Alternatively, send me a link for a thread on the discussion.

Can the Bloodfrenzy (or whatever it is called) rule take a model above 10 attacks?

Can Beastmen units use the BRB ambush rule instead?

What's special about Bloodfrenzy that it would allow you to exceed 10 attacks?

As to your second question... no. Ambush is defined in the Beastman book, overriding the main rulebook.

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Once again, wow. Just over 12 hours and all this. Well, let me know if anything else has been answered and keep 'em comning. Oh, and Harwammer. Thanks for the link. I'll get on that... tomorrow, it's off to bed for me now.

Edit: Oh, posted the edit for all this, doing the breaking up I mentioned in response to Lord Inquisitor. Interesting how Reference and Characters far outstrip the others for rules issues.

[Artiee]

Going through your responses to the greenskin questions:
1. Where's it say that? Same with Crack's call. There's nothing saying to treat it like a cannonball.
3. That only explains when the fanatic goes through a unit. What if it stops short? Also, we're told to leave a fanatic that goes through and stops short of another unit. Is this a definitive answer? Many don't think so.
4. Probably, but I'd like this one in black and white.
5. ...and nobody told me? Can I get a link to the model please? I'd like to see it.

I dont know how you see it any differantly with #4. But Ok, but I think putting stuff on there that you just want better clarification weakens the list.

Heres the GW Mangler.
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/ca...d=prod1390124a

[Lord Inquisitor]

5. ...and nobody told me? Can I get a link to the model please? I'd like to see it.

Lol you missed it? It made quite a buzz when it was released. There was a fair bit of ... discussion about the price. Still that thing is freaking massive.

Wow. Thanks for the list, though you did double some of the ones I already had. You'll also see that I split them up into categories for the main book (don't ask for better ordering, I'm not doing it).

Well have a look at the ones that seem to double up, some of them are subtly different. In some cases just need a bit of extra clarity - you asked about rules and mounts but it would be good to specifically give frenzy as an example as that's the most common question.

As for better organisation let's wait until we have a more definitive list and I'll go through and add all the page numbers. I've got all the books now I think.

I'm leaving the Ogre ones for a bit until I can crossreference with my buddy who plays Ogres and we can figure out exactly what the conflicts are. I've never heard of these issues and I'm not sure I understand them here. Alternatively, send me a link for a thread on the discussion.

- The hellheart question was perhaps the most often asked question about Ogres and it oddly didn't make it into the FAQ. The exact conflict stems from the fact that the hellheart causes a "roll on the miscast table" as opposed to causing the enemy wizard to miscast. This is compounded by the fact that e.g. cupped hands says "if the bearer miscasts" or something like that. There are loads of threads on this question - here's the most recent.
- Golgfag's FAQ just wasn't very clear. Yeah OBVIOUSLY he gets Stubborn and Vanguard when with his Maneaters. What if he isn't with his maneaters? He's a lot more useful as a Stubborn character than as an upgrade to maneaters. Thread here.
- Rune Maw works on "enemy spells" but if you misfire The Maw spell, the enemy gets to place the template. Can you use the Rune Maw (it is technically your spell but it's placed by the enemy). Thread here.

Actually there's a FAQ roundup thread over on the Stronghold here for Ogres that can all really be included. It has my questions plus a bunch more. Might be well worth checking all the army-specific forums to see if they have similar documents.

Oh, I thought of another general one:

- Can a model with the Sniper rule use it in conjunction with multiple shots?

[Harwammer]

Oh, I thought of another general one:

- Can a model with the Sniper rule use it in conjunction with multiple shots?

Ooh! I remember that one. Good call.

My answer is "yes, but only if the character has installed a zero recoil hack" :P

[AMWOOD co]

I dont know how you see it any differantly with #4. But Ok, but I think putting stuff on there that you just want better clarification weakens the list.

Eh, it comes down to I believe the intention would be for them to instantly kill eachother, but you're probably right. That one goes.

Heres the GW Mangler.
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/ca...d=prod1390124a

Lol you missed it? It made quite a buzz when it was released. There was a fair bit of ... discussion about the price. Still that thing is freaking massive.

Yes, cool model, but the price... I bought units of 30 for less than that. Heck, my rulebook costs less than that. I thought only forgeworld or batallion boxes came to that much...

enough about that, moving on.

Well have a look at the ones that seem to double up, some of them are subtly different. In some cases just need a bit of extra clarity - you asked about rules and mounts but it would be good to specifically give frenzy as an example as that's the most common question.

As for better organisation let's wait until we have a more definitive list and I'll go through and add all the page numbers. I've got all the books now I think.

Well, thanks. As for your questions, some are very similar and didn't seem to need to be included (I already had the Regeneration vs. Flaming at same initiative), and I will change the example for the Special Rules for mounted models to Frenzy so everyone knows the most common example.

- The hellheart question was perhaps the most often asked question about Ogres and it oddly didn't make it into the FAQ. The exact conflict stems from the fact that the hellheart causes a "roll on the miscast table" as opposed to causing the enemy wizard to miscast. This is compounded by the fact that e.g. cupped hands says "if the bearer miscasts" or something like that. There are loads of threads on this question - here's the most recent.
- Golgfag's FAQ just wasn't very clear. Yeah OBVIOUSLY he gets Stubborn and Vanguard when with his Maneaters. What if he isn't with his maneaters? He's a lot more useful as a Stubborn character than as an upgrade to maneaters. Thread here.
- Rune Maw works on "enemy spells" but if you misfire The Maw spell, the enemy gets to place the template. Can you use the Rune Maw (it is technically your spell but it's placed by the enemy). Thread here.

Actually there's a FAQ roundup thread over on the Stronghold here for Ogres that can all really be included. It has my questions plus a bunch more. Might be well worth checking all the army-specific forums to see if they have similar documents.

Oh, I thought of another general one:

- Can a model with the Sniper rule use it in conjunction with multiple shots?

Hmm, never thought of those that way. Interesting. The Hellheart one would fall under the same line as Cupped Hands vs. Teclis, wouldn't it?

Oh, and the Sniper question gets added on, but I want to throw a little more to it. Wasn't one of the ideas presented that only a normal shot could work? Would that exclude every special rule?

[Odin]

Can a banshee use its howl to target an enemy unit that is in combat?

It is in the shooting phase, but does it have to adhere to the rules for shooting attacks? It is described as a "special attack".

[geldedgoat]

Warriors of Chaos: During what steps of the combat phase do units engaged with a unit with the mark of Nurgle target the Nurgle unit? Does the targeting only occur while the other unit is attacking? Or does it persist beyond that step, when the Nurgle unit attacks back?

[dementian]

Warriors of Chaos: During what steps of the combat phase do units engaged with a unit with the mark of Nurgle target the Nurgle unit? Does the targeting only occur while the other unit is attacking? Or does it persist beyond that step, when the Nurgle unit attacks back?

Already answered I'd say

Page 110 – The Mark of Nurgle
Change the second paragraph to “A model with the Mark of
Nurgle is difficult to target. Ranged attacks that target him are
at -1 To Hit. Models that target him in close combat are at -1
WS.”

When you are attacking him he is not targeting you you are targeting him so he is only at -1 WS when attacking not when being attacked.

[geldedgoat]

Already answered I'd say

Page 110 – The Mark of Nurgle
Change the second paragraph to “A model with the Mark of
Nurgle is difficult to target. Ranged attacks that target him are
at -1 To Hit. Models that target him in close combat are at -1
WS.”

When you are attacking him he is not targeting you you are targeting him so he is only at -1 WS when attacking not when being attacked.

No, that's the errata the created the question in the first place. The army book wording is crystal clear. The 7th edition errata was crystal clear (stupid, but clear). This errata, however, is not. Close combat targeting isn't explained in the BRB, and it certainly never says anything that could be used to support your interpretation (and, unfortunately, it also never says anything to contradict your interpretation either).

[Lord Inquisitor]

That reminds me of a couple of related questions:
- If a model is WS1 and is affected by a spell or ability that inflicts -1 WS, does this make them WS0 and unable to attack/hit automatically in combat?
- If a model fails its Fear test (becoming WS1) and is under the effect of a spell or ability that reduces its WS by 1, does it become WS0?