HH Novel - Fear To Tread.

[Ancient Falor]

Just wanted to post a few things the author of the novel ( James Swallow) mentioned.

1) there will be word bearers in novel.

2) the Red Angel will be explored.

3) Amit, founder of the flesh tearers, plays an important role in novel. as well as other successor characters.

4) the story will cross many worlds in the Signus cluster besides Signus Prime

5) Roldoron will also play a major role.

6) The BA libarians will have plenty to do in the novel.

I cant wait for this novel.

[shadowhawk2008]

Raldoron is going to be a really badass character, I know it!!

[Apfeljunge]

who is Roldoron?

[Wyrmwood]

Raldoron is a Chapter Master in the Blood Angels Legion. He seems to occupy a position akin to equerry for the Primarch? Anyway, thanks for the info Falor!

[shadowhawk2008]

Wyrmwood is spot on. Raldoron is also the seniormost legion officer at the end of the Heresy and it is he who brings back Sanguinius's corpse to Baal and creates the shrine for him at the heart of the fortress-monastery (Red Fury).

[sweave]

don't have the book on my but is the red angel that guy from the heresy art book evil group photo?
isnt angron also known as the red angel?

[Apfeljunge]

yes and yes.

[nagash66]

Sounds interesting, however it being James Swallow BAs i will wait for reviews before buying,

[ThePope]

Sounds interesting, however it being James Swallow BAs i will wait for reviews before buying,

Indeed but hopefully as its a HH novel it should be decent. (One would hope anyway)

[nagash66]

Indeed but hopefully as its a HH novel it should be decent. (One would hope anyway)

As you say, we can but hope .

[Longstrider]

He has done some great stuff though. Faith and Fire/Hammer and Anvil were well done, and I think the quality of the writing of this BA novels got better as they went on, whatever you might think of the actual plots.

Did the Blood Angels ignore Nikaea?

[trigger]

The book may be based before nikkea ,
The book should be good , the authors arnt left to there own divices they all have a group chat and such to punch out ideas.
I have been looking forward to this almost as much as I was for prospero burns.
Plus the cover art looks awesome



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[Spider-pope]

The book may be based before nikkea ,
The book should be good , the authors arnt left to there own divices they all have a group chat and such to punch out ideas.
I have been looking forward to this almost as much as I was for prospero burns.
Plus the cover art looks awesome

The novel is post Nikea. But given the events on Signus Prime

Tons of Daemon fun

it's not that surprising the Blood Angels may bend the rules of Nikea in order to survive.
Given i'm a huge fan of James Swallow and loved his Blood Angels books so far, i can't wait for 'Fear to tread' to come out.

[Ancient Falor]

The novel is post Nikea. But given the events on Signus Prime

Tons of Daemon fun

it's not that surprising the Blood Angels may bend the rules of Nikea in order to survive.
Given i'm a huge fan of James Swallow and loved his Blood Angels books so far, i can't wait for 'Fear to tread' to come out.

I definately believe ,facing a full blown chaos army. The BA will have to use whatever means they have to purge the daemons. Use pychic powers and possibly survive. Or deny themselves one of the most powerful weapons they have and be destroyed. signus was definafely after Nikea.

[ThePope]

As above really, I think even for the BA Nikea goes straight out the window when there are hordes of gibbery daemons wanting to munch on your soul (wasn't it Sanguinious along with Khan and Magnus who came up with Librarians in the first place?)

In fact I hazard a guess that this incident may be where librarians are given the green light to use their powers again throughout the legions.

[MarcusAurelius]

Swallow is a decent writer. His ideas are rather silly at times, but the plot for this book has pretty much been fixed since way back. I don't think he'll mess it up like how Gav altered the Raven Guard.

[shadowhawk2008]

Pray how did Gav "alter" the Raven Guard? And also, going by EVERYTHING we have seen so far in the Horus Heresy series, NO plots are fixed. The general outlines yes, but nothing else.

[MarcusAurelius]

Pray tell me how he didn't retcon the plotline? He worked a major change to existing RG lore. Others have said it before.

I said it in the other thread and I'll say it here. I hate the fact that it's been retconned from Corax tampering with the gene seed and messing up and making the mutants. I hate the fact that it's the Alpha Legion that were responsible for the mutants instead of Corax itself. It has completely changed the Corax character and his shady dealings during the Heresy, which are entirely non shady now and the fact the mutants are the AL's fault also undermines Corax killing the Weregeld for me as I personally know he's not responsible for them. Also giving the the primarch template/gene seed deux ex machina solely to Corax makes little to no sense.

Yeah, the question of why every loyalist chapter wasn't given the same info as Corax is simply ignored. Under the old explanation, Corax messed with forces beyond his understanding, got it wrong and paid the price. Under the new explanation, Corax is given the Emperor's blessing to explore what can be done with genedata, gets it right (new Marines take 80 hours to grow instead of a decade, and then they're better than existing Marines as well - "keep up old man!") but doesn't think to share his discoveries with, for example, Dorn (who could have turned the entire population of Terra into Space Marines in seven years - now that would have given Horus a shock!) and, after the gene data gets corrupted, doesn't realise what's happened; which makes him look a bit stupid as the gene data now contains daemonic essense of Chaos which is explicitly said to be something the AL knew Corax would spot eventually. One reason I didn't think much to DL.

One wonders why; a very short time earlier, it was important enough for him to spend a long period of time travelling to Terra and hanging out on Deliverance for long enough to do it. A setback occurs (admittedly major) that he swears on oath he will fix, but now he has an urgent rush to go and do other things? And how long would it really take? Compare the gene sequences in one of the non-mutated Raptors to one of the mutated Raptors. The difference is whatever caused the problem. Hey presto.

It is still tragic but it loses a certain degree of effect because in the previous version Corax was tampering with things far beyond his knowledge and doing something that the Emperor probably would have been very against if he knew about it. It was the classic story about beginning something very morally gray with all the best intentions in the world and then everything falling apart around you because you did some very stupid stuff in desperation, despite it being for the right reason. The new continuity introduced by Deliverance Lost lacks some of this character building, Corax was never so desperate and emotionally shattered by Istvaan that he launched into things he should never have meddled with. Instead he's quite level headed (not in actions but in thought process), discusses things with the Big E and embarks upon a much different path even if it still ends up in the same place.

[MajorWesJanson]

As above really, I think even for the BA Nikea goes straight out the window when there are hordes of gibbery daemons wanting to munch on your soul (wasn't it Sanguinious along with Khan and Magnus who came up with Librarians in the first place?)

As per WD 261, The Emperor himself seems to have rescinded the Nikea edict before or during the Siege of Terra, personally leading a number of Imperial Fist and Blood Angel Librarians is a psychic defense of the Palace rom Thousand Sons sorcerers.

[FlashGordon]

It cant be worse than Nemesis. Right? I just hope he leaves out his affinity for japaneese anime stereotypes and giggling girls...