HH Novel - Fear To Tread.

[MiyamatoMusashi]

Pages 147-149 make it very clear that Space Wolf units have been sent to watch over all the Primarchs, not just Sanguinius, regardless of their former behaviour.

It's further stated specifically that this is in response to Magnus' actions alone, nothing to do with Horus turning traitor, and nothing to do with suspicions of a flaw in the Blood Angel geneseed.

(Finally, it's stated specifically that this is on the direct orders of Malcador... I only mention this as it puts yet another nail in the The Outcast Dead timeline, as if more nails were needed... it is literally 100% inconceivable that Malcador could directly order Space Wolf units to watch over all the Primarchs without also mentioning to them "by the way, eight of them have already openly turned traitor and one of the loyalists is dead, just thought you might want to know that". Yet again, we see that TOD was simply wrong).

[Deepsix81]

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[MarcusAurelius]

I would bet that Redknife's men were elite Wolves, likely from Russ's personal guards or his hand-picked squads. They might have had a chance against Sanguinius if they struck fast enough and used everything they had, the longer the fight dragged on though the less chance they'd win.

Not buying it for a second...

If you take the Wolves at face value, as executioners, it makes a lot of sense. Though it'd likely need to be a great many Marines to kill a primarch, obviously.

Apparently, there's only a single SW squad in Fear to Tread...I'm inclined to think that even if the SW determine that Sanguinius is a traitor, they wouldn't attempt to "execute" Sanguinius on their own

[shadowhawk2008]

The Space Wolves are quite pragmatic no? I'd expect Redknife to send urgent messages to Russ (at least to him, if not also to elsewhere such as Terra) and request reinforcements.

[Son of Sanguinius]

Do any of pieces of Sanguinius' wargear have names? If so, what are they?

[jay court]

It's a James Swallow BA Heresy book, what's not to like?

[FlashGordon]

It's a James Swallow BA Heresy book, what's not to like?

Well if we ignore the Flight of the Eisenstein with its moustashe twirling villains, generally boring and predictable antagonists and Nemesis which was worse than BftA with its anime-like characters and giggling assassins that contradict themselves and act like idiot teenagers unable to cooperate even if the world is falling down around them, well then i dont think we have anything to worry about.

[nagash66]

Well if we ignore the Flight of the Eisenstein with its moustashe twirling villains, generally boring and predictable antagonists and Nemesis which was worse than BftA with its anime-like characters and giggling assassins that contradict themselves and act like idiot teenagers unable to cooperate even if the world is falling down around them, well then i dont think we have anything to worry about.

You forgot the previous BA books which are so loved and cherished by the vast majority of the BA player community .

[Soul Hunter]

Maybe read the book before bashing it?


SH

[shadowhawk2008]

That's too hard for some people though!!! Biases in fandom, especially negative biases, run really deep.

[Son of Sanguinius]

Do any of pieces of Sanguinius' wargear have names? If so, what are they?

Does no one want to answer that devilishly handsome question?

[MiyamatoMusashi]

That's too hard for some people though!!! Biases in fandom, especially negative biases, run really deep.

This is brilliant.

Thankfully positive biases don't really exist, eh, shadowhawk?

[nagash66]

Maybe read the book before bashing it?


SH

Neither myself or FlashGordon 'bashed' the book, his previous works, but not this book, not yet, which makes youre post so delectably ironic.

That's too hard for some people though!!! Biases in fandom, especially negative biases, run really deep.

I agree with you there shadowhawk2008, i do so hate it when people simple rant on and on about how much they hate ( or love, nothing as annoying as a blind fanboy ) something without reason, luckily James Swallow has given reason aplenty for any person to gorge on.

[malika]

Does no one want to answer that devilishly handsome question?

He is probably armed with a "blood pistol" filled with "blood bullets", for a close combat weapon he has a "blood sword" or something...

[Son of Sanguinius]

Fair point, malika.

[Lord_Crull]

Pages 147-149 make it very clear that Space Wolf units have been sent to watch over all the Primarchs, not just Sanguinius, regardless of their former behaviour.

It's further stated specifically that this is in response to Magnus' actions alone, nothing to do with Horus turning traitor, and nothing to do with suspicions of a flaw in the Blood Angel geneseed.

(Finally, it's stated specifically that this is on the direct orders of Malcador... I only mention this as it puts yet another nail in the The Outcast Dead timeline, as if more nails were needed... it is literally 100% inconceivable that Malcador could directly order Space Wolf units to watch over all the Primarchs without also mentioning to them "by the way, eight of them have already openly turned traitor and one of the loyalists is dead, just thought you might want to know that". Yet again, we see that TOD was simply wrong).

I really don't like this retcon. Prospero Burns was bad enough, but now the Space Wolf players at my local club will never shut up.

[bound for glory]

This is brilliant.

Thankfully positive biases don't really exist, eh, shadowhawk?

shdowhawk does'nt believe the black libarary has EVER made a bad book. go read his "reviews"(gushing, over the top fawning). its worth a laugh. he's either a shut in fanboi of the most extreme type, of he's never read anything outside of BL product.
and he likes to mock anyone who disagrees...

[bound for glory]

I really don't like this retcon. Prospero Burns was bad enough, but now the Space Wolf players at my local club will never shut up.

prospero burns was horrid. call BFTA terrible. but it is what it is. how anyone can see worth in PB is beyound me. but thats my opinion.

[Lord_Crull]

My biggest complaint is that a squad of Astartes, no matter how awesome or badass, should be nothing more than a speedbump to a Primarch. We've already seen Corax chew through truckloads of Astartes rather easily. That's not even taking into account a Primarch's bodyguard unit.

[MiyamatoMusashi]

My biggest complaint is that a squad of Astartes, no matter how awesome or badass, should be nothing more than a speedbump to a Primarch. We've already seen Corax chew through truckloads of Astartes rather easily. That's not even taking into account a Primarch's bodyguard unit.

Yeah. And there's nothing to disprove that, in this book.

The Space Wolves know (they openly admit to each other) that if they end up having to try to kill Sanguinius, they will die. It's just that the hope is, they'll take him by surprise and kill him first (then the rest of the Blood Angels would kill them anyway). That's it. They're not confident of it, but there's a chance. Obviously nothing along those lines happens (so I'm not sure why you feel the need to call it a complaint), but the idea goes that having the possibility of doing that if required is worth the gamble - for the loss of only a few Space Wolves, weighed against the possibility of early intervention against a traitor Primarch if indeed the Primarch does turn traitor.