Basically just what the title says. What is the best "Deathstar" unit in the game for the points you pay for it? Lets make some rules for this: It has to be an HQ plus one of the following: Elite, Fast Attack, Troop or Heavy support choice.
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Ones that I personally field? Vulkan + Librarian + 5 TH/SS terminators in a LR Crusader. Although that is more than just a HQ and 1 other slot. So i'll also include Farseer + 8 Warlocks all on jetbikes.
I'm also starting to collect Tyranids and am planning on including a Swarmlord + 3 guard + Prime in some lists.
Stuff I'm working on:
40k - Pre Badab Astral Claws - Hive Fleet Phobos - *New* Imperial Fists Heresy Era
Fantasy - One nation under Hashut
Seems a weighted question, in that some armies can do a powerful unit out of that, but others don't get dedicated landraiders, for example, or don't use slots (seer council and necron court for example.)
You are almost certain to get a reply of: Terminators, in a crusader. Since other options are blocked out.
I'll go with those highly expencive draigo knights, in a crusader, with every upgrade possible. I presume that given I get to spend an extra couple of hundred points like that, they'll be the best...
Im going to go for the eldar option.
10 wraithguard, warlock with conceal, karandras (and a farseer near by or in the unit). Thats a LOAD of toughness 6 with a 3+ and 4+ cover save even in the open (3+ if they are actually in woods or ruins) with a reroll from fortune, always wound on a 2+ shooting with AP2, 1 (plus another 1 for the farseer) S9 shots vs vehicles and if it does get into CC it has 6 powerfist attacks and it pretty tricky to wound. Most importantly (in my opinion) is that it can claim objectives because its troops (and could even claim two if they are close enough).
Now if you're looking at a match up of deathstar VS deathstar in a vacuum then this wont win as it is not as strong as some units in CC. But when you conciser what else is in the army you can take out enemy tanks at long range (or with some fast moving firedragons in a transport) and that unit can comfortably take the shooting of an entire army and shrug it off.
Nob bikers with a boss or meq on bike.
Ragnar , wolf priest and wolf guard.
Sanguine guard , sanguinor and a sanguine priest.
Logan and a unit of longfangs with a wolf guard.
Draigo and his knights of the round table.
There is quite a few
Originally Posted by Son_Of_A_Horus
The Sanguinor cannot join units, so your best bet would be Dante instead.
Stuff I'm working on:
40k - Pre Badab Astral Claws - Hive Fleet Phobos - *New* Imperial Fists Heresy Era
Fantasy - One nation under Hashut
Vect + Dias + incubi
Friendly neighbourhood demon host.
Just assume at all times you are dealing with an idiot and we'll get on fine.
So Flesh biters with watch hinter allies I have it all straight no Cherub Ale. Leave it with me
Necron deathstars easly outperform every else in the game ;PMindsackle scarabs ;/A story of pain and misery.My friend runs 7 lychguard,1 trazyn,1 2 lords and some crypteks.It seems unbeatable to me.
Just shoot it down?
Are you asking what I consider the best deathstar I can build for my army is?
Are you asking what I consider the most cost efficient deathstar I can build for my army is?
Are you asking what I consider the best deathstar of any army is?
Are you asking what I consider the most cost efficient deathstar of any army is?
Project: All of the above. What army do you play? What is your Deathstar? Things like that.
30 jump pack Death Company with thunder hammers, and Astorath. Throw in Lemartes (no additional slot) and you're at 2,320 points. You can add 90 points for 6 infernus or plasma pistols, but we need to show some restraint...
Someone mentioned it above, but, I think the best Deathstar is pretty obviously assault terminators. Tooled-up GK Paladins can be pretty good, too.
But, for my personal death star, I run (Blood Angels)
5 Assault Terminators (3 with SS/TH), Sanguinary Priest in TDA, Epistolary in TDA and Storm Shield with Unleash Rage, Might of Heroes
In terms of offensive output, it's really overkill against anything you might care to throw it at, and obviously it's got some great resiliency.
death cult assassins with an inquisitor with rad grenades and then hammer hand him and the unit. so against T4 you wound on 2+ with a million high I high WS attacks. and its dirt cheap and can deal with most deathstars itself
in the grim darkness of 5th edition, there is only
MEQ
Keeping in theme with the month and TWC just being released. A pretty crazy one would be below.
4 x Wolf Lords on TWC with a mixture of TH/PF/FB/WC all with SS maxed out with Runic, WTN, WTT, melta bomb & a unique Saga (could mess about with the wargear/weapons if you wanted to stick to the Codex unique rules or change them slightly on wargear and go with TH/SS all round).
8 x Fenrisian Wolves as battle gear to go with the above.
5 x TWC with SS and one with a Frost blade or TH + MB's.
All in for around 1600pts with a possible damage output below.
29 x power weapon attacks.
20 x rending attacks.
32 x close combat attacks.
81 possible attacks in total.
17 x models.
30 x wound slots.
9 x models hitting at a minimum of strength 5, toughness of 5 & inv save of 3.
4 x models additionally with 2+ armour saves, 5+ psychic inv save, 4 WTN psychic saves & all always hitting on a 3+ no matter the targets WS.
Not a very cost effecient build but would be very fun to see it hit the enemies ranks & you could still get the 4 troop choices in with the remaining 400pts at 2000pts to make it legal
Last edited by _Chimaera; 10-03-2012 at 23:17.
LOOOOOOOOOOL!!!
My ribs hurt now.....
Depending what is going on with that squad, its illegal. The most lords and or Crypteks you can have in a unit is two, if you have two Overlords. If you have two Overlords (including the SC) you can take two Courts and end up with seven Lychguard, Traz, potentially another IC, and some combination of two Lords and or Crypteks (for a total of eleven models).
3 vendettas? 390-420 pts. 1 FA slot? Good luck closing with it to kill it in CC. . .
I happen to like the Daemon Deathstar. Skulltaker on a Juggernaught along with 8 Crushers of Khorne. The squad comes to 535 points. They have:
19 wounds to play wound allocation shenanigans with
32 WS 5, Str 6, Ini 5 attacks on a charge
5 WS 7, Str 6, Ini 6 attacks on a charge (that rend on a 4+ and if you fail an invul or don't have EW you get instagibbed)
Those are all power weapon attacks by the way. Str and T 5 base with 2 wounds and they will wreck SS/TH Terminators.
I have never seen a Tau deathstar but I would imagine its Farsight with 7 Crisis Suit bodyguards all with the Fireknife setup. That would be 14 str 7 shots and 14 str 6 shots if you are within 12''. Now markerlights can make all that hit on a 2+....nasty.
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