Blackadder WIP Warlord Titan

[avragehuman]

Coming along fantastically man, I can't wait to see the legs built up! The feet look great so far!

[ss_cherubael]

where the hell is that other titan from???

btw love the dedication in this build, cant wit to see it finished

[The_Blackadder]

where the hell is that other titan from???

???What other Titan the Warhound? Lucie is my scratchbuilt attempt to replicate a FW Lucius pattern Wolf class. She was my first completely scratch model i.e. no bitz and the building thread can be seen at:

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showth...Warhound-Titan

or do you mean the Dave Smith Warlord?

I first saw the Dave Smith's model on BOLS and though it was a painting it was so perfect. It was the only Warlord model I'd seen that looked like a viable machine that could actually be on a battlefield and not a toy. It was on display at the Los Angelos Battle Bunker for a while but I only have photos.







At that time (about two years ago) I thought if I ever finish Lucie and start a Warlord I would settle for nothing less than to duplicate that amazing effort.

[TomG]

Yeah, it is nice Warlord. I want sometimes build him too with same amount of details. Because everything less is not enought.

[The_Blackadder]

I haven't a clue how much this thing will weigh but I intend to use steel hardware for the joints and reinforced box beam legs. The joints will lock in position with torx screws to disguise the screw head so it won't be flexible like Lucie

Todays effort:


http://i.imgur.com/fElqW.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/QmXZl.jpg

[the damned artificer]

The feet are shaping up nicely mate, are you going to build joints in the feet in the hollow space ??

[The_Blackadder]

Is this one going to be posable like Lucie,

yes

as that would seem to be near impossible.

and yes


The following in regards to a drawing submitted by a reader on another forum:


Thanks, That's a very interesting set of drawings and are very much in accord with that which I envision although where you have the diagonal pads movable I perceive them to be stabilizers** at the most very limited in movement.

The side and front/back pads replicate the mechanics of bipedal walking. The front pads being that which imparts the pressure to propel the foot and lower leg forward (much the same as our toe function and eliminating the comical gait of 'ASIMO' which because it has no functional toes walks like it has a full nappy/diaper.)

The side pads to allow for variations in terrain and steering, the rear pads to absorb the shock of the step and mimicking the front action when the machine is stepping backwards.

The three toe-like devices front and back would perform subtle movements and move independently on account of terrain variation. Having toes on the front and back of the feet are an innovative step (groan) and a big improvement on our evolved natural foot although had we evolved a foot of that sort shoes would be ludicrous in size and shape and driving an automobile would be a much more complex affair.

I also have given some thought to the disc above the toes and that having two axises for front and back and side to side tilting for steering and varied terrain stabilization performing the ankle function of our own foot which is similar in construction.

There will be a fore to aft axle below the disc not a gymbal as you have in Lucie which may be adequate for a relatively lighter vehicle but a weak attachment for a monstrous entity such as a warlord.

Above the disc the attachment of the lower leg will be to attached to a semicircular gear duplicating the upper ankle process and the stepping mechanics.

**These stabilizers are cut out on my model to allow the F/B-S/S walking pads a full hinge point where they attach to the main foot plate, a much stronger connection point in my estimation.

All this proves The Black Adder has devoted an inordinate amount of thought to this and is thoroughly around the bend and really needs to consider doing some serious shagging.

[The_Blackadder]

Plodding along as is my wont I successfully attached the step pyramid style ends of the toes this morning which for the life of me serve no earthly purpose other than aesthetic appeal. (If you like toes.... Jabba )

Mine differ from DS's in that they are slightly wider but the overall design is the same.

Accompanying the feet are some figures to convey scale donated by my son.

http://i.imgur.com/fJVPu.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/r5yJw.jpg

[richter]

First the Warhound, next the thunderhawk and now a Warlord...you mock our feeble scratchbuilding skills!

On a more serious note, your attention to detail and meticulous planning will surelly (as usual) yield the most amazing results over this endeavour. I will subscribe and follow this thread closely!

Best of luck and godspeed on this endeavour!

[The_Blackadder]

The intent is to elevate the craft not to mock. A free exchange of techniques is ever present in my mind.

A bit further along on the disc mount mechanism placed but not glued are the rough cylinder trunnion mount blocks which are in essence pairs of pillow block bearings. Not glued because I don't know how much distance I need for the cylinder travel and still allow the disc plate a full range of tilt. mebbe I should do a drawing.

http://i.imgur.com/DZPp9.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/YJ5Zb.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/IeSOI.jpg

[Commitz]

That David Smith Titan is by far the best looking one I've seen outside of Forgeworld, you've chosen a good reference point
If I could make a suggestion though, are you considering fattening any of the joints up? I feel that the hips are a tad too thin on that titan, considering how well realised the rest of the build is.

And your feet look to be coming on well, I'm looking forward to watching this progress!

[The_Blackadder]

I've been working on the disc tilting cylinders. These will allow the disc to tilt side to side while secured to a longitudinal pivot axle yet to be fabricated.

http://i.imgur.com/DZPp9.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/YJ5Zb.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/IeSOI.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/NopdI.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/orHOg.jpg

[The_Blackadder]

I appreciate the responses and the subscriptions but just so you know 'The Blackadder' is very prone to mistakes. I spent half a day building the pistons receiving the cylinders on the discs and after forming them and starting to install them found that they were totally unnecessary!

Since they are totally hidden inside the ankle discs whats the point of even installing them? added work more parts to fail; who needs that so eliminated. But all is not lost, they may be useful in another area and if nothing else they keep me humble.

http://i.imgur.com/awVs5.jpg

They are shown in the left foreground.


http://i.imgur.com/G6u3t.jpg

So who would know they are even missing :*)

[Petay1985]

sterling progress fella, don't be dishearted by minor setbacks, these things are but sent to test us. this is truely great log and your ambitions are clearly limitless. looking forward to your next update.

[The_Blackadder]

I'm never disheartened by mistakes because without them you may not remember lessons learned. Liberals never learn from their mistakes because they don't think they make mistakes.

It's extremely gratifying to envision something in your mind's eye and then to duplicate it in some medium. In this case extremely malleable styrene but I can see how real engineers get their rocks off. Granted the days of Isambard Kingdom Brunel and John Scott Russell are pretty much over where an engineer designs and executes an entire construct but I'm sure even today such gratification must still exist.

Case in point, this highly speculative tilting table mechanism for the foot attachment.

I believe I have come up with a viable solution to allow the foot to tilt side to side, be light and strong and also look complex enough to grace a 40K denizen.
http://i.imgur.com/k07P5.jpg


Were I to build this for a real vehicle I would enclose the axle within the disc housing so the table doesn't shift side to side as much but then the mechanism would be totally hidden. so this way I have an excuse for the diagonal toes linear actuator system that give enhanced stability during the stepping process and decreases the upper body swaying which is the cause of so much seasickness in some Warhound crew members.
http://i.imgur.com/adYW2.jpg


That's my story and I stick with it :P
http://i.imgur.com/X81v7.jpg


When I see how much of this system will actually be visible I may fancy it up a bit using some of mxwllmdr's lightened girder and buttress techniques.

The beauty of this construct is it can be disassembled for maintenance, painting and repair.
http://i.imgur.com/jScLR.jpg

[SDKFZ]

Looks very complicated, I love it ! Great work, oh and thanks for sharing your misstakes aswell. That makes you appear much more human

/ SDKFZ

[The_Blackadder]

"It makes him seem more human." Hmmm. That's what Mrs Cheney said of her husband when she was asked how she felt about him being compared to Darth Vader.

[The_Blackadder]

This mornings run adding a bit of detail and checking the relative sizes.

http://i.imgur.com/IRxU3.jpg

[The_Blackadder]

Back to business:

Before I close up the workings of the feet perhaps a demo of the hinges I came up with to allow the side toes to flex.

At tis point they can flex up and down but once the box like hydraulic compartments at the base of the toes are installed upward movement will be restricted.

http://i.imgur.com/HyfxP.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/vSWL8.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/aLFwT.jpg

[The_Blackadder]

Anyway it's the weekend baby and I'm hot modeling-wise I hope to have the front and rear toes mounted today.

http://i.imgur.com/yixnd.jpg


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