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    Re: Blackadder WIP Warlord Titan

    Stunning work and suitable adeptus-like attention to detail.
    Just to ask: I can see you you're building up the dexterior details with plastic sheets, but how are you making the bigger sections (e.g. the half-circles for the ankle joints)? Are they made in box sections like the legs, or are they a solid material?
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    Re: Blackadder WIP Warlord Titan

    Looking very good sofar.
    Do like the amount of details youve put on it.

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    Thanks,

    You know after I installed those slides I had an epiphany, What if I cut cogs in the slides and used a toothed gear to actuate the semicircle, how would that be? I'll have to redesign the slides a bit but it would make perfect sense to have that as the mechanism.

    Meanwhile todays run not as much as I had hoped for but I had to repair the porch.
    http://i.imgur.com/iWhNql.jpg


    Stepping out

    http://i.imgur.com/NfcAfl.jpg


    You'll have to imagine the rest but the picture height isn't as high as the shoulder mounted lascannons

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    Re: Blackadder WIP Warlord Titan

    Using a cogdriven mechanism sounds like a great idea to me. How much will you have to rebuild the slides ?
    Will it be worth the effort ?
    I think so

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    First of all it will only be a simulated cog drive I don't need the pinion gear as it will be hidden in the shank. slicing off the 0.5 mm sheet styrene will take a matter of minutes and fabricating the cog detents

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detent

    about an hour but it really would make sense of the quadrant (semicircle) mechanism.

    Now the real beauty of this is I have made sense of the vertical disc at the knee joint. Think of it as a fly wheel rotation at various speeds depending on how fast the titan is walking. A simple clutch mechanism engaging and dropping out at propitious intervals allow the knee to flex for the step with a minimum of computer input. The only caveat is turning which would be performed by accelerating either the left or right flywheel. ( I rarely use this work but COOL!).
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    Makes sence and looks good. What else do you need ? i can see the walking mechanism befor me, but the turns would need some sort of motor to accelerate the flywheel.
    This means that you need some hydraulic piping or a chaindrive and a hint of a motor at the knee.

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    Re: Blackadder WIP Warlord Titan

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    Wonderful work so far! I'm very happy to see someone who's actually building a Warlord that's the proper size. The one that you're basing it on is by far the best Warlord I've ever seen, largely in part that it's not oversized, like every other Warlord I've ever seen.

    I'll definitely be following this.

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    Okay Ladies and Germs, In spite of Orgussv2's accolades this is what separates the Blackadder from relatively sane individuals. To borrow a phrase from another Charlton Heston movie, "The Agony and the Ecstasy"; The wine is sour, so throw it out!

    I'm not happy with the look. The legs are too thin. So I'm bringing out my second biggest Xacto blade and rending judgment on inferior work.

    http://i.imgur.com/JzlII.jpg


    http://i.imgur.com/BbjB1.jpg


    http://i.imgur.com/NOnMO.jpg

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    Re: Blackadder WIP Warlord Titan

    AAAAAHHHHHHHRRRRRRGGGGGG ! ! !

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    'cut and tacked this together this morning and attempted a side by side comparison. An inch removed may be too much mebbe 3/4 inch but definitely the joint and upper leg is greatly improved.

    http://i.imgur.com/g2MjD.jpg



    http://i.imgur.com/3fs82.jpg

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    Re: Blackadder WIP Warlord Titan

    Shouldn't the leg length issue easily be resolved by refering to the plans in your first post?

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    There are no plans except what I drew and two dimensional images don't translate well into three dimensional objects proportionwise especially when taken from objects imaged in perspective.

    This was an error of perception rather than measurement. Until I saw the leg in three dimensions everything seemed okay. A picture might be worth a thousand words but an actual object is worth at least as many pictures.

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    Re: Blackadder WIP Warlord Titan

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Blackadder View Post
    There are no plans except what I drew and two dimensional images don't translate well into three dimensional objects proportionwise especially when taken from objects imaged in perspective.

    This was an error of perception rather than measurement. Until I saw the leg in three dimensions everything seemed okay. A picture might be worth a thousand words but an actual object is worth at least as many pictures.
    My mistake. Shouldn't proper plans with measurements erase any chance of something like this happening again in the future though? Perhaps it could be worth getting hold of an epic model and make scaled plans out of?

    Sorry if my posts sound negative. I'm really following this thread with much interest as I did with your warhound.

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    Negative is okay, better than no response at all. Plans are fine if you are designing something from scratch but if you're copying an existing item and have no measurements and only images taken in perspective it's difficult to get the proportions right. The epic model blown up to 28 MM scale is only a crude approximation of a 40K Warlord. Being off by an inch on my model translates to about a millimeter on the epic titan. What looks right on such a small scale looks decidedly awkward at 24 to 26 inches.

    A good case in point is The ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. Michaelangelo made the figure's extremities out-sized in proportion because of the distance from the viewer. Normal sized arms and legs would look spindly at that distance. Viewed up close the figures limbs are grotesquely malformed but at the distance of 30 meters thy look right.

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    I spent the entire weekend revamping the lower legs making them wider and a half inch shorter. I cut down the radius of the hip and decreased the front to back measurement of the upper legs and and sheathed the whole all the while remodeling the bath which somehow takes precedence?

    http://i.imgur.com/ZgFwu.jpg


    http://i.imgur.com/m78Af.jpg


    http://i.imgur.com/lhla6.jpg


    http://i.imgur.com/0xoyh.jpg

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    Re: Blackadder WIP Warlord Titan

    Uhh, some sexy legs there mate Looks really good, even better when you make the armour plates I am sure

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    Re: Blackadder WIP Warlord Titan

    Looking better like this, i like the wider stockier legs.

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    Well I did have to cut the upper legs down again another 4MM all around. I installed the skin (AGAIN) and am working on the detail.

    I made a couple of jigs to facilitate the assembly first a cutting jig so the zipper-like trim is homogeneous and equally spaced.

    And a small aligning jig so the truncated pieces are aligned with their opposite number.

    DS has 9 sets up the back of the leg but I got ten with approximately the same spacing so either his are larger or his legs are shorter or he isn't as anal about the spacing.



    http://i.imgur.com/TxC3n.jpg


    http://i.imgur.com/VS9QD.jpg


    http://i.imgur.com/OXFmS.jpg

    Cutting jig

    http://i.imgur.com/F0DbE.jpg

    Aligning jig

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    I use Ambroid ProWeld when I can get it. I keep it in a Tamiya bottle because it's less prone to tipping and the fine tipped brush wastes a lot less solvent (Its really not a glue so much as a plastic melter.)

    For really large surfaces I use Testors red or blue tubed styrene cement. I see little difference between the two other than the toxicity of the red but I've never ben afacked bi iet myslef.


    Hmmm.......... I seem to have experienced a flurry of activity this weekend completing the basic upper leg structure and adding a bit of detail.

    Time to take stock and see where I've gone wrong.

    One step forward and two steps back seems to be my mantra.....................


    http://i.imgur.com/QrumW.jpg


    http://i.imgur.com/Ldi0k.jpg


    http://i.imgur.com/wCBgI.jpg

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